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Bill Maher: It’s ‘Ridiculous,’ ‘Quaint’ & ‘Nonsensical’ to Think 2nd Amendment Can Prevent Tyranny
The Blaze ^ | May 4, 2013 | Erica Ritz

Posted on 05/05/2013 12:29:39 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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Ever notice it's mostly the Leftist elites, politicians and media who keep bringing this up, not the Tea Party or the GOP? Waco was (a) a cult, not anti-government or small government people, (b) an isolated incident, so that the federal government could concentrate their forces there, and (c) a compound out in the sticks, not in an urban or suburban situation.
1 posted on 05/05/2013 12:29:40 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Maher doesn’t strike me as the type who would want to prevent tyranny anyway. I think he’s the type that would prefer to stand around wetting his pants.


2 posted on 05/05/2013 12:33:50 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (I got expelled from the "fundamental transformation" indoctrination center.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Comrades... resistance is futile.


3 posted on 05/05/2013 12:34:01 AM PDT by Nachum (The Obama "List" at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thor?

He mentioned Thor????

LOL...Bill. You’re nuts....


4 posted on 05/05/2013 12:35:27 AM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Psalm 83)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Maher is right, the 2nd ameendment won’t prevent Tyranny....

But it sure as hell will stop it once it is bold enough to start being tyrannical towards the people.


5 posted on 05/05/2013 12:37:33 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Something that some people don’t understand, is that it isn’t just about the killing, it is about the dying as well.

Liberals look at it as a match between the two armories and numbers and organization and political power and training, etc.

What they don’t see is how an argument within a nation changes as the government wins the battles, but loses a war.

Arms mean that the people die dearly, loudly, and in large numbers, over a longggg, sustained period of time.

Under those conditions scenarios change, there isn’t a straight line anymore with all results determinable from the starting balance sheet.


6 posted on 05/05/2013 12:39:00 AM PDT by ansel12 (Sodom and Gomorrah, flush with libertarians and liberals, short on social conservatives.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; FlingWingFlyer; Nachum; Brad's Gramma
Maher is saying what he's been told to say.

If the government believed that our being armed was quaint and nonsensical, they wouldn't be in such an all-fired rush to disarm us. Now would they?

(It was quaint and nonsensical to think that peasants armed with surplus weapons from the First World War could hold off the might of the US Military in VietNam I suppose, as well.)
7 posted on 05/05/2013 1:09:59 AM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sounds like a great argument for legalizing military grade weapons.


8 posted on 05/05/2013 1:37:15 AM PDT by guitar Josh
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When these people say the Government I assume they mean the US Military acting for the Politcal leaders.
If an armed revolt were to start under say an asswad Anti-American dipshit like Obama who hates the military and has screwed it over so much, I have a feeling that a very LARGE amount of the US Military would not act to defend the Political leaders but would act to defend the Constitution.
This is something people like these can not understand or comprehend..


9 posted on 05/05/2013 1:52:29 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign up for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The Government created and caused Waco. I think they learned a lesson there
because there hasn't been another one since. So yes, fighting back does
keep tyranny in check. And it was the DemocRATs
who killed all those
innocent Women and Children, Maher.
10 posted on 05/05/2013 1:59:59 AM PDT by MaxMax
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To: SECURE AMERICA

I gather the Mexicans thought the same thing after the Alamo. Fact is Waco was mostly women and children corralled into one place. Open warfare will be quite different.
In this day and age, guerilla warfare will easily wear them down regardless of their superior fire power. Liberals can’t stomach a real fight.


11 posted on 05/05/2013 2:15:01 AM PDT by Undecided 2012
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To: Brad's Gramma

Thor is a male stripper at a fag-club he belongs to.


12 posted on 05/05/2013 2:28:54 AM PDT by carriage_hill (AR-10s & AR-15s are the Muskets of the 21st Century. Free men need not ask permission.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Leftist poodle skirted cheerleaders like Maher think with emotion rather than the truth. He thinks that by having the First Amendment to say anything he wants, he has everything he needs. If he bought pies like he buys his freedoms, he would buy pie without the apple.

Our Second Amendment guarantees our freedom through this thing called asymmetric warfare. It is the same war strategy that won the Revolutionary War. It is the same war we are winning now against the criminal who wants to rob the law abiding of their life and treasure.


13 posted on 05/05/2013 2:29:53 AM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

To be honest, he’s kind of right.

Sort of like how a third world nation thinks that having some rifles against the US military will actually make a difference.

It’s not like bringing a knife to a gun fight, it’s like bringing a rock to gun fight.


14 posted on 05/05/2013 2:41:03 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: carriage_hill; Brad's Gramma

And Thor was how Maher felt afterward.


15 posted on 05/05/2013 2:44:07 AM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Is this another attempt at a joke by the alleged comedian, Bill Maher?


16 posted on 05/05/2013 2:47:38 AM PDT by windsorknot
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You know what they had in Waco? They had like 1.9 million rounds of ammunition; they had .50 caliber machine guns; they had grenades…What did the government have? Everything else. The winner and still champion – the United States government

And, that, Bill, is maybe why the FBI, the ATF, the DOJ, et al have earned the undying hatred of millions of Americans. With their "everything," they succeeded in burning up dozens of children, women and men under a siege that could have been prevented much, much earlier by the ATF. Bill, a real American would not be so proud of that stain on our history.

17 posted on 05/05/2013 2:49:33 AM PDT by Gaffer
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Guns not prevent tyranny???

I’m betting it will work a lot better than having nothing to defend yourself with.

As much as we hate to think it, the Afghanis have lasted well with fairly basic weapons.


18 posted on 05/05/2013 2:55:19 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
To Bill I would respond, "Let's look at it this way. The real question is are you willing to kill to take my arms away? Are you willing to die trying, because I am both. I see it as a DUTY. An obligation."

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19 posted on 05/05/2013 3:13:57 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Or even, "if that is what you libtards believe why do you feel you need to take them away?"

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20 posted on 05/05/2013 3:17:42 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Because afghans didn’t repel 2 superpowers using AKs/s

what a moron (no sarc tag)


21 posted on 05/05/2013 3:19:55 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: autumnraine

Tell that to the people of afghanistan who effectively stopped 2 superpowers using AKs. So much for your (and his) theory.


22 posted on 05/05/2013 3:22:25 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

To be honest, it won’t just be small arms if the time ever comes. It will be IEDs against crown vics, and LEOs entire families wiped out. It will be ugly......let us hope it never comes to that.


23 posted on 05/05/2013 3:25:09 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I believe the most succinct exchange I ever heard on this was iirc Larry Pratt responded to Diane Feinstein when asked, “Why do you need an AR-15?”. He replied, “Because you don’t want me to have one.”

In any case it ain’t about winning. Win or lose those of us willing to make the effort will NEVER live under tyranny. Either way. Die on your feet. Don’t live on your knees. Sic SempeR Tyrranis.


24 posted on 05/05/2013 3:25:31 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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Yeah, I remember Waco, you moron Maher. Wouldn’t have expected a government to senselessly attack and kill innocent civilians over alleged weapons violations. BTW, they did NOT have 50 caliber machine guns. Otherwise, the death toll for this illegal, unconstitutional invasion would have been much higher for our government thugs.


25 posted on 05/05/2013 3:37:40 AM PDT by meyer (When people fear the government, you have Tyranny)
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To: carriage_hill
Thor is a male stripper at a fag-club he belongs to.

Is that Ann "Adam's Apple" Coulter's stage name at the club where Bill met her?

26 posted on 05/05/2013 3:40:47 AM PDT by peyton randolph (FUBO and his wookie beard)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Good points.... Third World goat farmers with rudimentary weapons have handled superpowers to a draw in Afghanistan

Let’s see what a military can do against folks who are better fed, better armed, better educated, and have more trees and foilage for cover.


27 posted on 05/05/2013 3:44:23 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (GOP - Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Waco was what, 50 people? And we are still talking about it how many years later?

In the South, there are hundreds of thousands who look to the 2nd amendment as protection against a tyrannical state. And no matter what libs like Maher think about it, the tyrannical minds in DC that scheme to control our lives look at the armed citizenry and know they always have to think twice about how hard they will move against a citizen.

Just think of Janet Napolitano and her buying of millions of rounds of ammo for “homeland security”. That alone is proof the 2nd amendment lives in the heads of the DC control freaks.


28 posted on 05/05/2013 3:48:17 AM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: wastoute

Only when the last remnant of Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto decided to fight were they not slaughtered like sheep.

Most of the previous roundups were conducted by a handful of soldiers who often didn’t even carry their rifles with a cartridge in the chamber, because the soldiers were confident of submissive obedience on the part of their victims.

Americans don’t do submission and are armed. Liberals know this and know it well. Whether the MOTUS in the ‘White Mosque’ really understands this, or whether the rest of the Muslim world understands this is debatable.

Maher is attempting what Sysiphus would have advised against. Some things are not possible. Disarming America is one such task.


29 posted on 05/05/2013 3:49:16 AM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam is antithetical to, and Islam is irreconcilable with, America. Therefore - Islam Delenda Est)
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But if these prominent Leftists are so sure of that, why even bother trying to take away everyone’s guns? No, they are afraid, very afraid.

I’m sure there were Englishmen who laughed at the idea that a tiny group of farmers at Lexington and Concord could bring down the mightiest military in the world in 1776. The rest is history....or rather, His story.


30 posted on 05/05/2013 3:50:13 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: peyton randolph

Ohhhhhhhh, you bad. But right! Sure looks like an AA to me, or she’s got a Milk-Bone Biscuit lodged in her throat. Heh.


31 posted on 05/05/2013 3:55:15 AM PDT by carriage_hill (AR-10s & AR-15s are the Muskets of the 21st Century. Free men need not ask permission.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bill Maher is Ridiculous and Nonsensical...

he is not Quaint.


32 posted on 05/05/2013 3:55:17 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight,, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Guess you gotta point...


33 posted on 05/05/2013 4:11:09 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just wait until a Republican becomes president again. We’ll get Leftists calling for violent revolution again.


34 posted on 05/05/2013 4:14:53 AM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper (Lord, confuse the wicked, confound their words, for I see violence and strife in the city.Psalms55:9)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hate to bring this up but,
We already have an illegal, unconstitutional tryanny.
I don’t see anybody doing anything about it.


35 posted on 05/05/2013 4:17:53 AM PDT by vanilla swirl (searching for something meaningful to say)
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To: xzins

Maher did you forget that a bunch of uneducated farmers beat the biggest and baddest army in the world a few centuries ago and that’s the reason you can flap your jaws on U.S. soil to earn a living?


36 posted on 05/05/2013 4:23:15 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I have no television on purpose and a benefit is that I do not have to ever hear of Bill Maher or Chris Matthews, even by accident.

It’s discouraging to see these two wastes of skin so often publicized on my Free Republic.


37 posted on 05/05/2013 4:27:23 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: jsanders2001

Amen!

Great Point!


38 posted on 05/05/2013 4:35:20 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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Who is winning the war in Afghanistan, in the long run? It sure wasn't the Soviets, and it's not currently the USA, either.
39 posted on 05/05/2013 4:51:35 AM PDT by Lockbar (The guy that fires the last bullet gets to write the history books,)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Look at our own history. Poorly equipped, under trained, and out numbered. We adapted and began using guerrilla tactics defeat the British empire.


40 posted on 05/05/2013 4:52:37 AM PDT by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

(c) is your most important observation.

The great force equalizer.


41 posted on 05/05/2013 4:55:01 AM PDT by sauropod (I will not comply)
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To: vanilla swirl

Bill is right. 2nd Amendment didn’t prevent the disaster we have right now in our government nor did it prevent a Martial Type Law in Watertown with people drug out of their homes with their hands up and being patted down as they came out... while the suspect was in a boat in the search zone - but the street conveniently not searched.

I still wonder if the goal was for the guy to escape but the boat owner got in the way.


42 posted on 05/05/2013 4:58:20 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The “Battle of Athens” is an excellent case study of American citizens using their 2nd amendment rights to overthrow tyranny.

I’ll bet it is never taught in schools these days.

http://www.constitution.org/mil/tn/batathen.htm


43 posted on 05/05/2013 4:59:48 AM PDT by wrench
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The freedom loving people of this country could put a 100 Million man “army” in the field. The leftists would be lucky to field 100 thousand. Freedom loving Americans would make the Taliban look like 3 year old children playing with squirt guns and fizzy drinks.

Add to that the fact that Republican governors also have well equipped forces as well. In addition, I believe 100% of the Air Power would support the freedom loving Americans.

We win! So give up your leftist dreams of Tyranny!!!


44 posted on 05/05/2013 5:02:33 AM PDT by Revolutionary ("Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammunition!")
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Isnt that why OathKeepers dot com is working hard to remind those in the military and law enforcement, that they took and oath to protect the Constitution-—which is the people, not the Govt.....

Maher hopefully misses the point that there will be a steady flow of military to the side of the people.

As the late great Col. Jeff Cooper stated about the Feds with their face covered who attacked Waco and Ruby Ridge-—if they cant even show their face, they are terrorists, to be shot on sight.


45 posted on 05/05/2013 5:04:32 AM PDT by sbark
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To: autumnraine
Sort of like how a third world nation thinks that having some rifles against the US military will actually make a difference.

It does.

To fight guerrilla warfare you have to out number them by over ten to one.

One guerrilla can tie up ten solders on average. Yeah you can bomb the place to rubble but it will work only if you know where they are.

46 posted on 05/05/2013 5:05:40 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Join AAAA : Americans Against Acronym Abuse)
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“Who is winning the war in Afghanistan, in the long run? It sure wasn’t the Soviets, and it’s not currently the USA, either.”

You can thank the ex father in law of the Dead Bomber’s Uncle for that

““The policy of guiding the evolution of Islam and of helping them against our adversaries worked marvelously well in Afghanistan against the Red Army,” explains a former CIA analyst. “The same doctrines can still be used to destabilize what remains of Russian power, and especially to counter Chinese influence in Central Asia.” In a certain sense, the Cold War is still going on. For years Graham Fuller, former Deputy Director of the National Council on Intelligence at the CIA, has been talking up the “modernizing virtues” of the Islamists, insisting on their anti-Statist concept of the economy. Listening to him, you would almost take the Taleban and their Wahhabi allies for liberals. “Islam, in theory at least, is firmly anchored in the traditions of free trade and private enterprise,” wrote Fuller. “The prophet was a trader, as was his first wife. Islam does not glorify the State’s role in the economy.”

Richard Labévière, Dollars for Terror: The United States and Islam, New York: Algora Publishing, 2000, p. 6”


47 posted on 05/05/2013 5:08:22 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Stupid man. They are not elites. They are communists.


48 posted on 05/05/2013 5:11:08 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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They had like 1.9 million rounds of ammunition; they had .50 caliber machine guns; they had grenades

Where did that come from. Out of his anus? If they had actually found those weapons it would have been splashed all over the news as justification, it was not. But then, I did not buy the lies told by BATF and company concerning Waco. So what does that make me?

The Civil War did not happen by individual action. If the US ever breaks up, it will be by State Action, not some Militia Group.

49 posted on 05/05/2013 5:22:19 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Is he saying,” nyaa nyaa you can’t stop us, even with your guns!” ?


50 posted on 05/05/2013 5:28:44 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's EconomTheiics In One Lesson ONLINE www.fee.org/library/books/economics-in-one-lesson)
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