Posted on 07/09/2013 7:26:23 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
The “Obama is ineligible” movement took Judge Carter’s ruling to heart. In 2012 there were 50 eligibility challenges to Obama being on the ballot heard in 22 states plus the District of Columbia.
Two of those ballot eligibility challenges are still pending, in Alabama before the state Supreme Court and in the U.S. District Court for the southern District of Mississippi.
Anyone talking impeachment and removal between now and January, 2015 needs to tell us which 22 Democrats in the current Senate (plus any RINO Republicans) would vote guilty in an impeachment trial.
I think the best strategy is to pursue a criminal indictment that would force resignation. Nixon resigned after being named as an “unindicted co-conspirator.”
That’s what Judge Carter (a Marine Lieutenant Vietnam combat vet who won the Bronze Star and the Purple Heart) meant when he referred to “the succession process of the Twenty-fifth Amendment.”
Why would prosecution for forged documents, fraud, etc. be heard by the Supreme Court?
The 12th Amendment says that whoever receives a majority of the votes of the Electors “shall be the President.”
Obviously determining eligibility must be accomplished before or at the early January Joint Session of Congress that is held to count and certify the votes of the Electors.
No Person except a natural born Citizen... shall be eligible to the Office of President. If a person is not a natural born citizen then they can not be President, it is an impossibility. Election does not launder ineligibility. To claim so would make Article 2 moot.
3. "If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified."
Until the SCOTUS says otherwise, for all practical purposes it is moot. Ray, we have lived through an anti-constitutional coup.
The SCOTUS has seized every opportunity to duck the issue, allowing the rulings of lower courts to stand. IMNHO, The most reasoned of these is that of the CASC, because it opens the door to solving the dilemma ... next time.
Call it national ambiguity. He ain't, but he is. It is my hope that the SCOTUS will take an appeal after 2015 and rule on what a '"natural born Citizen" is, in regard to Cruz or Rubio, should they be put forward for national office.
This, my FRiend is why they have Civil Wars. We, and Canada are the only two republics in the hemisphere that have limited Civil War experience.
Well in that case the entire Constitution is moot.
I don’t think so.
Roll again Champ.
Well Ray, you finally understand the Obama Administration. Call me when the shooting starts.
Roger that.
notice that Obama has produced no experts to certify that is it real
and WHAT “WAIVERS” did he have to send a team of lawyers to Hawaii to sign, in order to get a document you or I can get for $12 any time
I bet he does not even know the process to get a BC , never having had one
Agreed. This is uncharted ground, but ground we must forge deliberately and unwaveringly. The finding of ineligibility should result in the immediate expulsion from office - no impeachment needed. And every act that this impostor has put his signature to should be rendered null and void.
Amen and amen.
How do you know? You have a crystal ball? You’re the reincarnated Nostradamus? Time traveller and you saw the future?
Governments can fall, they have in the past. Look what’s happening in Egypt and Turkey....
So I guess you all would much prefer that Zullo and Arpaio and anyone else trying to get at the truth about the Freak In Chief should curl up and die and give up trying to do anything.
Your defeatism sickens me.
Their defeatism sickens me.
Really makes me wonder about their motives.
Your defeatism sickens me.
Your defeatism sickens me.
Interesting info about Zero's 1980 summer and how he could not have filled out a Selective Service card when the (fake) one was filled out and sent from HI (supposedly). Also discussion of newest from Zullo.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3040719/posts?page=23#23
Freepmail me if you want on/off this ping list. It is not the same as the eligibility lists, although there is some overlap.
Has any court or any action of Congress ever ruled that Obama is not Article 2, Section 1 eligible?
On the other hand:
Rhodes v MacDonald, U.S. District Court Judge Clay D. Land: A spurious claim questioning the presidents constitutional legitimacy may be protected by the First Amendment, but a Courts placement of its imprimatur upon a claim that is so lacking in factual support that it is frivolous would undoubtedly disserve the public interest.US District Court for the Middle District of Georgia, September 16, 2009.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/19809978/RHODES-v-MacDONALD-13-ORDER-denying-3-Motion-for-TRO-granting-8-Motion-to-Dismiss-Ordered-by-Judge-Clay-D-Land-on-09162009-CGC-Entered-0
Taitz v Obama (Quo Warranto) This is one of several such suits filed by Ms. Taitz in her quixotic attempt to prove that President Obama is not a natural born citizen, as is required by the Constitution. This Court is not willing to go tilting at windmills with her.— Chief US District Court Judge Royce C. Lamberth, US District Court for the District of Columbia, April 14, 2010
http://www.scribd.com/doc/30040084/TAITZ-v-OBAMA-QW-23-MEMORANDUM-OPINION-dcd-04502943496-23-0
Resignation in disgrace or an impeachment conviction in the Senate are the remaining options.
Aha.
Hmm, since he was there, and you saw him, I wonder why he didn’t fill out the SS card himself/show any ID etc and why the date stamp was wrong (and maybe other stuff) showing it to be a forgery.
You’d think that if (or rather, since) he was actually in HI for at least some amount of time, why didn’t he fill it out? He wasn’t a US citizen?
And funny that none of his friends such as the one he lived with mention him going back to HI that summer. Always weird stuff with this freak.
Ping listees - hope you see this comment by butterdezillion too:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3040719/posts?page=37#37
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