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How slavery continues to shape Southern politics
Facing South Blog ^ | September 23, 2013 | Sue Sturgis

Posted on 09/24/2013 8:03:38 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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1 posted on 09/24/2013 8:03:38 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Where is the (mega) barf alert?


2 posted on 09/24/2013 8:07:28 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Orval Faubus, George Wallace, Lestor Maddox, William Fulbright, the Ku Klux Klan, Robert Byrd, Bull Connor, - yep, all them Republican racists.


3 posted on 09/24/2013 8:08:46 PM PDT by oldbill
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How slavery continues to shape Southern politics
4 posted on 09/24/2013 8:10:11 PM PDT by Altura Ct.
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I can’t tell you what this scored on my BS meter, because it tore the needle off.

The University of Rochester in New York Nuff said.


5 posted on 09/24/2013 8:13:08 PM PDT by Venturer ( cowardice posturing as tolerance =political correctness)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well when you consider that the “black belt” is named after the color of soil not the color of anyone’s skin, you have to dismiss this “analysis” pretty quickly.


6 posted on 09/24/2013 8:27:04 PM PDT by JLS
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It isn’t ‘comments’ which come tyo mind when I read filth propaganda seeking to gin up racial tensions using false premises ...


7 posted on 09/24/2013 8:29:41 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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Just another caricature like these cartoons.


8 posted on 09/24/2013 8:30:54 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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And there is no racism outside the South? Who knew?


9 posted on 09/24/2013 8:32:00 PM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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People are more racist up north then down here. I argue this point constantly with Northern pinheads.


10 posted on 09/24/2013 8:39:36 PM PDT by BBell (The Blue Dog is Stupid)
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To: oldbill

Lester Maddox actually was a good governor of Georgia and he lived long enough to hear a few of his opponents admit it.


11 posted on 09/24/2013 8:46:35 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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Just how many people do these author believe were slave holders in 1860? Does the percentage of people who were slave owners correspond somehow with the percentage of people who are, “gasp”, against Affirmative Action and vote Republican and have a negative attitude towards African Americans? I mean if the two are directly related one would expect there to be some kind of direct linear connection. You know, like tracing somebody’s current political philosophy on the fact back in the day their family were slave holders.

How many people interviewed were transplants? I can guarantee you that people don’t move to the South just in hopes they will get to carry on the Plantation life. Nor to relive the glory days of Reconstruction where crimes against recently freed slaves was a Democratic past time. In fact Southern Democrats have been very closely connected with such crimes. How did the authors miss that?

This poor attitude was towards which African Americans? You see we don’t think they all look alike nor do we lump them together. If you ask a person that lives in an area where most of the violent crime is committed by certain classes of Blacks you will get a negative attitude because the reality is that someone has probably had a negative experience with such persons. Get down to specifics and you will find the attitude is not applied to all Blacks.

The biggest BS of them all is that it is very obvious (nope I have not read the original source material, but I know.) the authors decided in advance what the conclusion must be and made sure to frame their questions in order to solicit the answers that would meet that conclusion. This is what Liberal academics do. It is also BS because it totally ignores the racial tensions and outright racism in those areas of the country (Boston, cough, cough) that do not have a legacy of slavery. Not only that, these are so-called enlightened areas which vote Democrat and just love their little Brown brothers. That is not how I think of Blacks but I notice there is always a tone of “White man’s burden” in how Libs speak about Black people.

Lastly the authors failed to learn something very important before speaking to Southerners. We can shine on a stupid, condescending, peckerheaded, fool of a damn liberal Yankee and not break a sweat. We know what they think of us. We know they hold us in contempt. We bless their hearts all the way up one side of the road and then bless it all the way down the other side. All the time wondering how God must surely love fools cause He made so many of them. By the way they do make tasty breakfast treats.


12 posted on 09/24/2013 8:56:52 PM PDT by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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Bullcrizzap!


13 posted on 09/24/2013 8:58:31 PM PDT by uncitizen
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HK Edgerton, Black Confederate
14 posted on 09/24/2013 9:01:37 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Venturer

I always assumed that much of the southern conservatism was based upon “the Bible Belt”..and having grown up in Durham, N.C. I think I am more correct than these liberal bozos.

I have fond feelings toward blacks, and am as Conservative as they come!~


15 posted on 09/24/2013 9:01:55 PM PDT by JSDude1 (Is John Boehner the Neville Chamberlain of American Politics?)
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Most Southerners knew and interacted with A-As on a daily basis and were able to get along.

In the North there is/was greater segregation on a physical basis tot eh point where many on both sides had no daily interaction with each other. Quite different situations leading to quite different understandings.

16 posted on 09/24/2013 9:23:08 PM PDT by Paladin2 (h)
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This effect has been noted by historians and observers for centuries. The study is hardly "groundbreaking" except that to academia any "study" that confirms stereotypes of the hoi polloi are necessarily "groundbreaking" no matter how many times the work is repeated. Identifiable slave populations do not lose the stigma for centuries, even long after the reason for the stigma is not remembered. Consider the Slavs in Europe.
17 posted on 09/24/2013 10:04:59 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/econohttp://www.fee.org/library/det)
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To: BBell; RightGeek
People are more racist up north then down here. I argue this point constantly with Northern pinheads.
Yes they are. As an example, the quaint little village of Pine Bush, NY has two claims to fame, it's been the scene of alleged UFO sightings (it's nicknamed the Roswell of the east) and it's also one of the few areas left in the US where there's still some alleged klan activity. But racism up north was at least as prevalent, though in many cases more subtle. I remember my parents telling me long ago nobody burned crosses in daBronx. Only real estate offices in Riverdale, Pelham Parkway, Williamsbridge, Eastchester (well, before the Edenwald projects went up and the 'hood went down)and other good neighborhoods that dared to show co-ops or townhouses to those "g-ddamed n****rs" and "filthy sp*cs". That's what progressives call them when they think no one's paying attention.
18 posted on 09/24/2013 10:13:53 PM PDT by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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The Southern slave owners back then were Democrats. The CW only ‘freed’ the slaves in the South, while allowing people in the North to continue to have slaves. The Union also destroyed land ownership records and permitted their carpetbaggers to claim lands in the South.

The slavery issue was just used as an excuse to start the war. The real issue was economics, as the North was just making products that they couldn’t export (because they were being made in Europe as well), but the South had secured lucrative contracts for exporting cotton and tobacco to other countries. The North saw it was going to lose economically big time, so had to find a reason to foment a war, where they had the manufacturing advantage for armamant. ............JMO


19 posted on 09/25/2013 2:22:09 AM PDT by octex
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During slavery many slaves learned the trades and once freed were free to practice these trades. In the north all trades were unionized, highly paid and practiced racism with a vengeance.

Much of the negative portrayal of southerners is the product of “sophisticated” northerners trying to assuage their guilt of a much more damaging form of racism.

I say this as a person who lived his first sixty years in the north and nearly forty years in the tristate region.


20 posted on 09/25/2013 2:46:51 AM PDT by monocle
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