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To: GailA

The Constitution was simple and blunt....but left a lot of things hanging out there. This law of reporting all lost or stolen guns....may have some value to it. If a guy isn’t willing to report these....you’d have to be suspicious of his intentions or ethical behavior around guns. I think if Jefferson were around today....he’d be amazed at the thousand various scenarios with weapons and how his simple text survives on today...somehow covering those thousand scenarios.


3 posted on 09/27/2013 5:26:26 AM PDT by pepsionice
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Those kind of laws I can see along with not letting criminals have access to them. But responsible adults who are not criminals and are US Citizens should not be barred from carrying or owning. And no data bases those are not in the Constitution.


8 posted on 09/27/2013 6:18:10 AM PDT by GailA (THOSE WHO DON'T KEEP PROMISES TO THE MILITARY, WON'T KEEP THEM TO U!)
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To: pepsionice

“This law of reporting all lost or stolen guns....may have some value to it. If a guy isn’t willing to report these....you’d have to be suspicious of his intentions or ethical behavior around guns.”

Meh. The Constitution’s protections are not dependent on one’s intentions or ethical behavior. It’s “shall not be infringed”, not “shall not be infringed, EXCEPT...”.


9 posted on 09/27/2013 6:41:20 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: pepsionice

“The Constitution was simple and blunt....but left a lot of things hanging out there.”


I would respectfully disagree.

“SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED” (SNBI) is about the most unambiguous, zero wiggle room phrase,(even for lawyers), in our founding documents. We would be hard pressed to find any more absolute wording in the Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution.

SNBI does not allow for ANY law restricting a citizen’s right to KBA.

Only lawyers/politicians/judges who are 100% traitors to the US Constitution, the citizens of the USA and the founders, have managed to create laws which DO infringe.

The only way any gun law can be legal in the USA would be to repeal the 2nd Amendment. That is the only legal way to get around SNBI.

Thanks to decades of following the Communist Manifesto and allowing our public schools to distort the Constitution have we lost track of the FACT that WE THE PEOPLE have ALL the Creator given powers/rights and the Constitution restricts ALL areas of government except for those very few areas where the people have consented to relinquish their power to government.

Any other powers/rights, not mentioned in the Constitution, were to be retained by WE THE PEOPLE.

If the Constitution is silent on an issue, the government has NO authority. Thanks all you union bastard democrat teachers for destroying such a brilliant concept.


12 posted on 09/27/2013 7:29:51 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam! 969)
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To: pepsionice

The “report stolen firearms” laws are sometimes simply fronts for the “lock up guns” and “never touch guns” rules liberals love - when they can’t get outright prohibition.

I have seen instances where these laws were predicated on when the firearm was stolen, and did not allow leeway for when the theft was discovered.

The other issue I see, and this one relates to the intended registration/recording of firearms, is that requiring the owner to report to the state when a firearm is stolen also requires that owner to report to the state that one or more guns is owned... And it effectively requires that any additional weapons be declared upon reporting the theft. Backdoor registration, as it were.

Not that any liberal statist would dream of registration as a prelude to confiscation...


14 posted on 09/27/2013 7:37:14 AM PDT by MortMan (Disarming the sheep only emboldens the wolves.)
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To: pepsionice
pepsionice said: "If a guy isn’t willing to report these...."

Without the infringement of requiring serial numbers on firearms, there would be much less value to reporting firearms stolen. One infringement always leads to another.

16 posted on 09/27/2013 10:02:18 AM PDT by William Tell
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To: pepsionice; All
I do not see any value to a law requiring the reporting of lost or stolen firearms.

It clearly is a burden to a person who has already suffered a loss, and it stigmatizes firearms as somehow more dangerous, as something that poses an inherent legal hazard to own, than other objects.

It appears to me that this is just part of the puzzle of implementing a general and universal firearms registration program, such that the *only* legal firearms are those that are registered with the state.

By requiring all lost or stolen firearms to be reported, they “plug” the tipped my boat over and lost my firearms “loophole”.

Then, when they require you to “temporarily” turn in the firearms to state “armories” for “safekeeping” during this “emergency”. You cannot claim that they have been stolen or lost.

20 posted on 09/27/2013 2:15:47 PM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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