CO:Constitutional Carry Considered

Gun Watch ^ | 1 February, 2014 | Dean Weingarten

[marktwain]

Two legislators, Jared Wright (R-Fruita) and Chris Holbert (R-Parker) introduced HB1041.  The measure would remove the requirement to obtain a permit from the state in order to possess concealed weapons.   The same restrictions that now apply to concealed carry permit holders would also apply to people who would be eligible for the permit.

The permit system would be retained for those who wish a permit for purposes of reciprocity with other states.

Representative Wright said that a permit should not be required to exercise a constitutional right.  From gjsentinel.com:

“This is in essence allowing law-abiding citizens to carry a concealed handgun without being subjected to criminal laws,” Wright said. “Now let me tell you what this bill does not do. This bill does not authorize the carrying of concealed handguns by felons, the mentally ill, juveniles or anyone otherwise prohibited from possessing handguns under state or federal law.”

The reporting by the gjsentinal seems a bit confused.  They write:

The measure also wouldn’t do away with the concealed-carry permit system in case someone needs one to carry a weapon out of state. All other states that permit the practice honor concealed-carry, but only with a state permit.

But immediately following, they add this paragraph:

 Only five states — Wyoming, Arizona, Arkansas, Alaska and Vermont — don’t require permits.

If five states do not require a permit, then the statement "All other states that permit the practice honor concealed-carry, but only with a state permit."  is false.

It is a mistake that can be made by anyone who is not familiar with firearms law.


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[marktwain]

Constitutional carry also seems in play in Louisiana, where the state Constitutional amendment, stating that the right to keep and bear arms is a fundamental right, and subject to strict scrutiny, may cause the permit law to be rendered unnecessary to carry concealed in that state.

[lakecumberlandvet]

I’ve always maintained that requiring a permit to carry a concealed weapon is an infringement on an individual’s 2nd amendment guaranteed right to keep and bear arms. It’s good to see some movement away from this particular infringement.

[TigersEye]

The same restrictions that now apply to concealed carry permit holders would also apply to people who would be eligible for the permit.

I'm confused by that statement. What permit?

[ChildOfThe60s]

The primary underlying principle here, as in all aspects of keeping and bearing arms, is that the more freedom loving, law abiding Americans who own and carry firearms, the more reluctant the government will be to expand its persecution of the citizenry.

Gun control is simply the government’s way of protecting itself from the consequences of its despotic misdeeds.

We don’t need 2A to protect ourselves from criminals, that was always assumed as a given; like our right to eat food and drink water, it’s a natural law. 2A enunciates our innate right (note I do not say it gives us the right) to protect ourselves and our rights from government.

Government doesn’t grant rights, it only takes them away.

[Red Steel]

I suppose they mean felons and juveniles etcetera.

Last year, the Constitutional Carry didn’t make it out of the CO Senate committee.

[ThunderSleeps]

I think what they are saying (badly) is this... Right now in CO you cannot get a CC permit if you’re a felon, have domestic charges etc. Something like that - there are disqualifying conditions. What I think they mean is that if they go to a “Constitutional carry” then you won’t need a permit to legally CC. However, you cannot CC (with/without the permit) if you are a felon, have a domestic charge, etc.

[laplata]

ping

[yarddog]

Well stated.

[TigersEye]

What I think they mean is that if they go to a “Constitutional carry” then you won’t need a permit to legally CC. However, you cannot CC (with/without the permit) if you are a felon, have a domestic charge, etc.

Ah, OK, I see it now. What a tortured sentence that was.

[Jack Hydrazine]

It's time for CO to go green!

[Jack Hydrazine]

It's time for CO to go green!

[Jack Hydrazine]

Constitutional Carry gains momentum
AR to Become ‘Constitutional Carry’ State
2JUL2013

http://jpfo.org/articles-assd03/constitutional-carry-gains.htm

[george76]

Colorado Ping ( Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from the list.)

[Blue Collar Christian]

If any other states adopt Constitutional Carry, they’ll have the streets awash in blood just like here in Arizona...oh, wait...NOT!

[Blue Collar Christian]

Concealed carry permits are REGISTRATION.

[rellimpank]

--best of luck but you need a new guv and change control of the legislature for it to have a chance-

-might remind everybody that one of the first thigs the Dems did when they got control of the Colorado state legislature was end reciprocity for many states by refusing to honor the permits from Florida and Utah unless you lived in those states--and several (such as Nevada) still don't have reciprocity due to slightly differing requirements---

[dhs12345]

Ya. Good luck with that. We have lost hope here in Colorado. As long as Democrats are in control, it aint gonna happen.

[RandallFlagg]

Ya. Good luck with that. We have lost hope here in Colorado. As long as Democrats are in control, it aint gonna happen.

Democrats won't be in control for much longer.
Gun owners here are PI$$ED.
We won't forget, FRiend.

[dhs12345]

Lets hope so. The three Democrats were recalled or resigned over last years gun laws. So they are scared.

The Gov and the Congress are controlled right now. It would mean an all around win to make unrestricted CC a law.

No doubt the Democrats will fight it.

[lakecumberlandvet]

I agree.