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Did Fuddy Have an Open-Casket Funeral? (Media caught in deception)
Butterdezillion's Blog ^ | 2-3-14 | butterdezillion

Posted on 02/03/2014 7:20:31 AM PST by butterdezillion

Conclusion: The person in the casket shown by KITV is not from Fuddy’s funeral. The casket at Fuddy’s funeral had a different pall and had no body inside but did have an oval bump in the middle of the casket, which I presume to be an urn. The media used at least one instance of fake footage (and maybe two) to imply that Fuddy’s was an open-casket funeral, the family was photographed in positions you would expect if there was a body in the casket, and the casket was treated as if it had a body inside. The public was most likely unaware of the deception to be carried out by the media and honored what they believed was her ashes if they got close enough to see the urn in the casket.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Society
KEYWORDS: certifigate; fuddy; hawaii; msm; naturalborncitizen; obama
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1 posted on 02/03/2014 7:20:31 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

Was the her death faked?!


2 posted on 02/03/2014 7:24:55 AM PST by Plummz (pro-constitution, anti-corruption)
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To: paythefiddler; LucyT; null and void; rolling_stone; bitt; Nachum; Venturer; little jeremiah; ...

Sorry I can’t post the pdf here but the link is http://butterdezillion.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/did-fuddy-have-an-open-casket-funeral1.pdf


3 posted on 02/03/2014 7:27:08 AM PST by butterdezillion (Free online faxing at http://faxzero.com/ Fax all your elected officials. Make DC listen.)
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To: Plummz

There was some reason they just had an urn in the casket, even though they went through the trappings of an open-casket funeral and had the media show a photo of somebody else’s body in a coffin...

Usually if you’re going to cremate but want an open-casket funeral you just have the body cremated right after the ceremony, right in the casket. It takes a few hours and then the ashes are available to the family for burial, scattering, or other arrangements.

Clearly they didn’t want to have to show her body but did want people to believe her body was viewed by the public.

There is more information that will be coming soon, Lord willing.


4 posted on 02/03/2014 7:32:31 AM PST by butterdezillion (Free online faxing at http://faxzero.com/ Fax all your elected officials. Make DC listen.)
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To: butterdezillion
Why, it must be a conspiracy!
5 posted on 02/03/2014 7:32:31 AM PST by humblegunner
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To: butterdezillion

Ridiculous. The bump in the middle is not her head; it’s her hands crossed over her middle-aged belly.


6 posted on 02/03/2014 7:33:44 AM PST by Albion Wilde (The less a man knows, the more certain he is that he knows it all.)
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To: butterdezillion

Who is “Fuddy”?


7 posted on 02/03/2014 7:37:07 AM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: Proud2BeRight

Duddy’s first name


8 posted on 02/03/2014 7:38:47 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: Proud2BeRight

Fuddy was one of the people (maybe THE person) most responsible for releasing Obama’s FAKE birth certificate.

She was OK after the plane crash, everyone was alive in the water... then suddenly she’s dead...???


9 posted on 02/03/2014 7:42:26 AM PST by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period.)
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To: Albion Wilde

Perfectly round hands? And two other little bumps off to the left? This image is taken from somewhat above. This casket has the front side of the box lower so that a body could be seen from the side, and the lid is deep enough to allow it to fit above the body when the lid is closed. Fuddy would have to be a rather thin woman to have nothing but her big, bulky, round hands showing from a vantage point somewhat above.

Why did KITV put a photo of somebody else in a casket, if they could more easily have taken the same kind of photo that was really from Fuddy’s funeral?


10 posted on 02/03/2014 7:42:57 AM PST by butterdezillion (Free online faxing at http://faxzero.com/ Fax all your elected officials. Make DC listen.)
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To: knarf

That’s all I could think too. My Mother would use fuddy duddy instead of old fart or geezer.


11 posted on 02/03/2014 7:43:35 AM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: butterdezillion

“Why did KITV put a photo of somebody else in a casket”

It could be just a stupid Newsroom producer pressed for time and just stuck up any image for the story. It also could be the family would not let them have any images of the body either. The ‘faking’ of her death does not seem to make much sense, at least not at the moment?

Everyone suspects everything on this case now. Too much going on.

http://www.nachumlist.com/deadpool.htm


12 posted on 02/03/2014 7:46:27 AM PST by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: Proud2BeRight

She was the Hawaii Department of Health director who changed the rules to keep anybody from being able to get copies of their actual long-form birth certificates. Based on the evidence, I believe she ordered the creation of a new birth certificate for Obama based on law enforcement claiming he needed a totally fake BC to keep him safe from “crazy birthers” right after the Giffords shooting, which was when Gov Abercrombie was trying to find a BC for Obama and ended up telling his friend, Mike Evans, that there wasn’t one - after telling the media there was something actually written down...


13 posted on 02/03/2014 7:47:03 AM PST by butterdezillion (Free online faxing at http://faxzero.com/ Fax all your elected officials. Make DC listen.)
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To: Albion Wilde

And, the two pictures don’t show different caskets, they are just shot from different angles, with resulting different lighting.

This whole post is nonsensical conspiracy mongering.


14 posted on 02/03/2014 7:47:33 AM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Nachum

It would take less time to insert raw video from the same camera that took the other shots, than it would take to look up footage of somebody else.

There is much, much more that will be said, Lord willing. At first I thought the idea of a faked death was crazy too. But I went where the evidence led, and there is much evidence that can’t just be wished away.


15 posted on 02/03/2014 7:50:42 AM PST by butterdezillion (Free online faxing at http://faxzero.com/ Fax all your elected officials. Make DC listen.)
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To: butterdezillion

Actually she’s still alive and living with Elvis and JFK in a retirement home in Texas.


16 posted on 02/03/2014 7:53:03 AM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

The shape of the crosses is totally different.

Brocade can sometimes reverse the colors of a pattern from different angles, but the darker gold pall is also seen from above and the colors aren’t reversed. But even if the colors were reversed, it wouldn’t explain the totally different way of creating the cross image. The non-Fuddy pall is made by a gold OUTLINE; the Fuddy pall has no outline but there appears to be a cross because there are dark corners added to the piece of fabric. Totally different technique for making that - and I know, because I have made ecclesiastical cloths.


17 posted on 02/03/2014 7:55:08 AM PST by butterdezillion (Free online faxing at http://faxzero.com/ Fax all your elected officials. Make DC listen.)
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To: butterdezillion
There is much, much more that will be said, Lord willing. At first I thought the idea of a faked death was crazy too. But I went where the evidence led, and there is much evidence that can’t just be wished away.

Indeed. Lots of connections to the Banksters, CIA, Subud, and Obamas. If you think about it, she might have been a mole and they used this to extract her. But sometimes it is just the Newsroom avoiding a lawsuit from the relatives.

18 posted on 02/03/2014 7:56:26 AM PST by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: butterdezillion

Perhaps more will surface as to what happened at the funeral. Everything connected to the Kenyan ends up having a question marked applied to it.


19 posted on 02/03/2014 7:58:25 AM PST by Marine_Uncle (Galt level is not far away......)
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To: Nachum

Sure. But if the family doesn’t want the body shown, then why try to put in a photo with the body showing? Why not just leave that out? Showing somebody else’s body is not only journalistically unethical but also invites a lawsuit from the family of the person whose body was implied to be Fuddy’s.


20 posted on 02/03/2014 7:59:08 AM PST by butterdezillion (Free online faxing at http://faxzero.com/ Fax all your elected officials. Make DC listen.)
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To: butterdezillion

All of which is true, but nobody ever said the folks in the Newsroom were geniuses.


21 posted on 02/03/2014 8:01:29 AM PST by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: butterdezillion
This may explain the two bumps


22 posted on 02/03/2014 8:02:53 AM PST by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: piroque

No, they’re little black bumps right in line with each other - like there are 2 small pieces of memorabilia in the casket together with an urn.


23 posted on 02/03/2014 8:08:36 AM PST by butterdezillion (Free online faxing at http://faxzero.com/ Fax all your elected officials. Make DC listen.)
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To: Nachum

True. Newsroom stupidity can’t explain the real image of Fuddy’s casket though.


24 posted on 02/03/2014 8:19:13 AM PST by butterdezillion (Free online faxing at http://faxzero.com/ Fax all your elected officials. Make DC listen.)
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To: Nachum

Not a death faking, a cover up of quick cremation then a funeral, instead of the other way around, a funeral then a cremation.


25 posted on 02/03/2014 8:22:37 AM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Plummz

Or was it important that the bullet holes didn’t show and that she had a normal funeral?


26 posted on 02/03/2014 8:23:35 AM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: arthurus

I don’t believe she was killed, and there will be more coming out, as to why I believe that.

The family is obviously not opposed to an open-casket funeral, since they pretended to have one. They could just as easily have had one. Why didn’t they? The autopsy was already done so it wasn’t like they cremated her before an autopsy could happen, as was the case with Madelyn Dunham.


27 posted on 02/03/2014 8:37:52 AM PST by butterdezillion (Free online faxing at http://faxzero.com/ Fax all your elected officials. Make DC listen.)
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To: butterdezillion

Video here. The visitation isn’t till Saturday.

http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/24230948/events-set-to-take-place-in-honor-of-hawaii


28 posted on 02/03/2014 8:39:51 AM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: butterdezillion

I’ll add here, too, that if Fuddy is still alive they could have taken still photos of her in a casket when the flowers were in place for the funeral but before the visitation. If they didn’t do it then, they could still do it now - if she’s still alive. Who knows what will come up next, but her body was not in the casket at the funeral, and if any photos do surface the immediate question is why her body was not in the casket at the funeral.


29 posted on 02/03/2014 8:42:59 AM PST by butterdezillion (Free online faxing at http://faxzero.com/ Fax all your elected officials. Make DC listen.)
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To: Fantasywriter

Thanks for that link. Interesting information.

The visitation was Dec 21 - 10 days after the crash.


30 posted on 02/03/2014 8:54:42 AM PST by butterdezillion (Free online faxing at http://faxzero.com/ Fax all your elected officials. Make DC listen.)
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To: butterdezillion

They haven’t had the funeral yet. That was a memorial service following the arrival of her body in Oahu. The funeral is scheduled for Saturday, immediately after the public visitation. Private burial service to follow.


31 posted on 02/03/2014 8:55:06 AM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: butterdezillion

“It’s almost as if the family and media are working together to make it seem as if there was an open-casket funeral for Fuddy...”

Here’s a radical thought: did you bother to ask anyone that attended the funeral if your theory is correct?


32 posted on 02/03/2014 8:57:43 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Conscience of a Conservative; butterdezillion; Fred Nerks
And, the two pictures don’t show different caskets, they are just shot from different angles, with resulting different lighting.

This whole post is nonsensical conspiracy mongering.

Maybe so, maybe not. Actually open the link butterdezillion provided, then take a careful look at first picture (#1) that clearly is of a real body in a casket and then carefully compare it to picture (#4).

I find it very strange that the draped edge of the open casket in the first picture appears to be draped at a pronounced slant whereas that feature is completely missing in picture #4.

All in all, the picture series #3, #4 and #6 (errantly given a repeat #5) lacks sufficient detail for me to draw any firm conclusions. The "urn" could be Fuddy's hands and the first "bump" could be a tuft of Fuddy's hair.

33 posted on 02/03/2014 8:58:43 AM PST by elengr (Benghazi betrayal: rescue denied - our guys DIED - treason's the reason obama s/b tried then fried!)
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To: butterdezillion

You were right about the dates. Sorry I put out the wrong info.


34 posted on 02/03/2014 9:00:31 AM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: butterdezillion

Thanks.


35 posted on 02/03/2014 9:07:41 AM PST by Proud2BeRight
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To: elengr

Fuddy is a large woman. You can see her photo from right before the plane took off, at http://www.khon2.com/news/photo-shows-fuddys-last-moments-on-molokai

There is no way she was in a casket like that one and a photo taken from slightly above would show nothing but a few protrusions sticking up, in line, at equally spaced distances.


36 posted on 02/03/2014 9:08:30 AM PST by butterdezillion (Free online faxing at http://faxzero.com/ Fax all your elected officials. Make DC listen.)
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To: butterdezillion

Here’s youtube video of the actual funeral. At the 30 second mark the mourners appear to file past an open casket, and one woman extends her hand over what looks to be the body. At the 156 mark is a closer shot, with more emotional mourners passing a defnite open casket.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7yDNyDLYGM


37 posted on 02/03/2014 9:14:19 AM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: butterdezillion

I am not claiming that the casket did not contain an urn - just that, like most everything associated with aka obama, the facts are not clear (hardly “the most transparent administration, ever” that the American people were promised, that’s for sure).

The only thing I am certain of is that aka obama has committed felony identity fraud, which, had the truth been known all along, would have kept him from becoming the putative president (either due to ineligibility or unelectability or both). It is also fairly likely that an unbiased jury would convict him of high treason for his Benghazi betrayal and sentence him to a penalty of death.


38 posted on 02/03/2014 9:23:30 AM PST by elengr (Benghazi betrayal: rescue denied - our guys DIED - treason's the reason obama s/b tried then fried!)
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To: butterdezillion

At http://www.casketsite.com/batesvilleimages/casketdimensions.gif you can see the typical dimensions for a casket. From the bottom of the casket to the top of the “box” is usually 14.5 inches. Fuddy’s casket has the side of the “box” recessed where the lid is open so that the body is more visible.

Look at the photo of Fuddy at http://www.khon2.com/news/photo-shows-fuddys-last-moments-on-molokai and ask yourself if she would only have a few protrusions sticking up when viewed from slightly above, when placed in the bottom of a box that’s 14.5 inches tall minus the thickness of the bottom of the casket and minus however much the side of the box is recessed. The net depth that is hidden by the side of the box when viewed at eye level might have been 11 inches.


39 posted on 02/03/2014 9:28:32 AM PST by butterdezillion (Free online faxing at http://faxzero.com/ Fax all your elected officials. Make DC listen.)
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To: Fantasywriter

That video is where I got Image #1 in my blog post. I’m saying that the pall on that casket is different than the pall on Fuddy’s casket. That’s not Fuddy’s body. The news report put a photo from somebody else’s funeral to make it look like Fuddy’s body was in the casket.


40 posted on 02/03/2014 9:31:27 AM PST by butterdezillion (Free online faxing at http://faxzero.com/ Fax all your elected officials. Make DC listen.)
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To: Fantasywriter
Here’s youtube video of the actual funeral. At the 30 second mark the mourners appear to file past an open casket, and one woman extends her hand over what looks to be the body. At the 156 mark is a closer shot, with more emotional mourners passing a defnite open casket.
Thanks for the video link. It clearly shows Fuddy's funeral with people passing the open casket in which a hand that appears to be the same hand as in butterdezillion's #1 picture can be seen. From the way the mourners are acting, it is without a doubt Fuddy's uncremated dead body lying in the open casket.
41 posted on 02/03/2014 9:31:58 AM PST by elengr (Benghazi betrayal: rescue denied - our guys DIED - treason's the reason obama s/b tried then fried!)
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To: butterdezillion

Re:

Size of torso with hands folded....

I measured myself and I am far smaller than Ms Fuddy.

From my back to my top knuckle is 11 inches deep.

There should have been WAY more visible in Ms Fuddy’s case.


42 posted on 02/03/2014 9:34:59 AM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: elengr

I agree, wholeheartedly.

I can’t be certain that is an urn. But given the casket dimensions we’re talking about and Fuddy’s size, I don’t think it’s possible for her body to be in that casket and have it look like that from somewhat above.

I apologize if it seems like I’m hounding you; I’m mostly just talking to myself, I think. lol


43 posted on 02/03/2014 9:36:46 AM PST by butterdezillion (Free online faxing at http://faxzero.com/ Fax all your elected officials. Make DC listen.)
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To: WildHighlander57

It is maddening that anyone should be having to ask these questions at all (most transparent administration ever).


44 posted on 02/03/2014 9:39:13 AM PST by elengr (Benghazi betrayal: rescue denied - our guys DIED - treason's the reason obama s/b tried then fried!)
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To: elengr

No, that’s the image I used in my blog post. It has a different pall than Fuddy’s casket. That’s what I’m saying.

The sad ladies are looking at something, and the TV clip makes it appear that they are looking at the body in the casket, because the clip is edited to insert that image/footage of the open casket there. But the open casket footage they inserted is not Fuddy - as can be known by the pall being wrong.

The way we know what they would really see if they were passing by the casket is by looking at the casket image we can verify was actually there - because it is in the context of the funeral happening live. That is the image I posted from the Honolulu Diocese web page - and it shows just those 3 dark bumps sticking up.

We don’t even know if the casket was ever in the back of the church where those sad ladies were at. The only time we see the casket is when it’s up in the front of the church. But if they were looking at the same casket as was there while the funeral was going on, they were looking it 3 bumps - one probably an urn. People still cry at funerals where there is an urn. Those ladies could have been looking at anything - photos, the urn, etc. We don’t know.

What we do know is that the TV crew inserted an image of a woman in a casket, and it’s NOT Fuddy.


45 posted on 02/03/2014 9:43:46 AM PST by butterdezillion (Free online faxing at http://faxzero.com/ Fax all your elected officials. Make DC listen.)
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To: WildHighlander57

Thanks for sparing me the embarrassment of having to reveal my dimensions. lol.

I agree.


46 posted on 02/03/2014 9:47:00 AM PST by butterdezillion (Free online faxing at http://faxzero.com/ Fax all your elected officials. Make DC listen.)
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To: elengr

Elengr, I hear ya.... too much skulduggery, phoney baloney, obfuscation, and downright fraud and deception going on with this administration.

Back to that Fuddy funeral ...

Take a good look at everything in those pix.

Everything.


47 posted on 02/03/2014 9:57:03 AM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: elengr

That’s the way it looks to me too. It’s her funeral, & they’re crying as they approach the body.


48 posted on 02/03/2014 10:17:09 AM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: SkyDancer

Please don’t demean Texas.


49 posted on 02/03/2014 11:01:12 AM PST by Huskerfan44 (Huskerfan44 (22 Yr, Navy Vet))
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To: Fantasywriter

I’m trying to figure out the layout of that church. At 30 seconds, you see a woman at a wooden podium. The wall to HER left is all white. Next to the white portion of the wall is a doorway, with an exit sign over it. The casket is to the woman’s right, a step down from where she’s standing. Next to the casket is a very tall candle stand with a white candle in it. There are two lighted Christmas trees behind her.

At 34 seconds, the scene shifts to a priest giving a eulogy. He’s at a white-cloth-covered podium. To HIS left is a wall covered with slatted wood paneling. Next to his podium are two tall candle holders with white candles. No flowers or Christmas trees visible.

At 46 seconds, Yamamoto may be in the front row. I don’t recognize anyone else, including Abercrombie.

At 52 seconds, Abercrombie is speaking from the same podium from which the woman spoke—wooden podium with a white wall to his left and two lighted Christmas trees behind.

At 1:04, the scene switches back to the priest, with the wooden wall to his left and no decorations seen.

At 1:37, we see people in pews, women facing them as if going along the row, greeting them. Behind is ONE lighted Christmas tree. To the left is that same wooden wall you see when the priest speaks, but I don’t see his podium or the candles. Nor do I see Abercrombie’s podium. I see poinsettias in the background, but no funereal floral sprays, nor a casket (although it could be there, just out of view).

At 1:39, the scene is from the rear of the church. There’s a big marble-like structure in the middle of the aisle, halfway down. It looks like the type of thing upon which you would place a casket, but it appears as if the casket (when it’s shown) was up in front, near the altar. In this scene, people are up near the altar, but I can’t see a casket or funeral floral displays. Just the Christmas decor—trees and poinsettias. The people may be taking Communion. On each side is one tall Christmas tree with two smaller ones next to it. No wooden wall visible.

At 1:52, we see the crying women filing past the casket. Behind them, are seen many funeral floral arrangements and a door with an exit signs. One is on a high stand, so taller than the women and should have been visible in other shots. (Wouldn’t you have expected the reporters to film the notable people filing by, instead of unidentified women?)

At 1:57 you see the hands of the woman in the casket and even a little of her hair. I didn’t see anybody in the church wearing that bright pink, tie-dyed-looking dress.

At 2:03 there’s a view showing the casket, the podium from which Abercrombie spoke, with the white wall to the side and two Christmas trees behind the podium. The floral sprays look different and aren’t where they were when the women filed past the casket, even though others are filing past this casket.


50 posted on 02/03/2014 11:08:13 AM PST by Greenperson
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