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Defeating Darwin in Four Easy Steps
Renew America ^ | February 6, 2014 | Bryan Fischer

Posted on 02/06/2014 6:43:49 PM PST by WXRGina

What was most instructive about Tuesday night's debate between Ken Ham and Bill Nye [watch entire debate here] over the issue of origins was Nye's blanket admission of total, abject ignorance on the most important questions of the evening.

Where did the atoms that made up the Big Bang come from? Nye has no idea. Where did man's consciousness come from? Nye has no idea. How can matter produce life? Nye has absolutely no idea. This surely is all one needs to know to recognize the utter bankruptcy of the theory of evolution.

Now it's helpful for us who believe in creation science not only to be able to point to this abysmal ignorance of evolutionists on the most important questions, but also to have a clear template to use in discussing and defending our convictions, a template that includes the best in science. I offer such a template in this column, as I have done in prior columns as well.

What follows is a straightforward, four-step refutation of the theory of evolution. The steps are easy to remember, and make a nice little cadence when spoken with a little rhythm: First Law, Second Law, Fossils and Genes. Armed with this truth, go forth and conquer.

Before we even start, we ought to notice that, if evolution is true, there would be no way to know it. Because evolution teaches that everything that exists is the product of the random collision of atoms, this logically includes the thoughts I am thinking about evolution. But if my thoughts are the product of the random collision of atoms, there is no reason to think that any of them are true – they just are.

No one "random collision of atoms" can be said to be truer than another, any more than one randomly generated Rorschach inkblot can be said to be more correct than another.

As J.B.S. Haldane famously observed, "If my mental processes are determined wholly by the motion of atoms in my brain, I have no reason to suppose that my beliefs are true and hence I have no reason for supposing my brain to be composed of atoms."

All right, here we go.

First Law of Thermodynamics. This law (note: not a theory but a scientific law) teaches us that matter and energy can neither be created nor destroyed. In other words, an honest scientist will tell you that there is nothing in the observable universe that can explain either the origin of energy or matter. By logical extension, then, matter and energy had to come into being by some force outside the universe.

What this means, then, is that science simply has no explanation for the most basic question that could possibly be asked: why is there something rather than nothing?

Creationists and Intelligent Design advocates have an answer to this question; evolutionists do not.

When you see a turtle on a fence post, what's the one thing you know? Somebody put him there. When you see a world hanging in space, what's the one thing you know? Someone hung it there.

It's futile to resort to the big bang theory, as some evolutionists are wont to do. They say they have an explanation for the origin of the universe: it began when a ball of incredibly dense matter exploded and flung the universe into existence. Okay, fine. Now: where did that incredibly dense ball of matter come from?

Even Aristotle saw that behind the existence of the universe had to be what he called a Prime Mover or an Unmoved Mover. If everything is the result of secondary causes, nothing would ever actually happen. Some great power had to be a primary cause of life, motion, energy, and existence.

If you walk into an office and you see one of those toys with the steel balls swinging left to right, right to left, virtually endlessly, the one thing you will know for an absolute certainty is that some force outside that toy had to start the whole thing by lifting the first ball and releasing it to clack against the others. The process you observe could not possibly have started all by itself.

Creation Science and Intelligent Design theory offers a Prime Mover, evolution does not.

Second Law of Thermodynamics. This law (note: not a theory but a law) teaches us that in every chemical or heat reaction, there is a loss of energy that never again is available for another heat reaction. This is why things break down if left to themselves, and why scientists tell us that the universe is headed toward a heat death.

This law teaches us, then, that the universe is headed toward increasing randomness and decay.

But what does the theory of evolution teach us? The exact opposite, that the universe is headed toward increasing complexity and order. You put up a scientific theory against my scientific law, I'm going to settle for the law every time, thank you very much.

Plus, this teaches us that the universe had to have a beginning. If you see a watch winding down, one thing you know with absolute certainty is that somebody wound it up.

Intelligent Design theory offers not only a Watchmaker but a Watch-winder; evolution does not.

Fossils. Realize that the fossil record is the only tangible, physical evidence for the theory of evolution that exists. The fossil record is it. There is absolutely nothing else Darwinians have they can show you.

As Yale University's Carl Dunbar says, "Fossils provide the only historical, documentary evidence that life has evolved from simpler to more and more complex forms."

But if Darwin's theory is correct – that increasingly complex life forms developed in tiny little incremental and transitional steps – then the fossil record should be littered with an enormous number of transitional fossils.

Darwin himself said, "The number of intermediate and transitional links must have been inconceivably great."

But, sadly for Darwinians, after more than 150 years of digging in dirt all around the world, there are still no transitional fossils at all, not one! The most famous paleontologist in the world, Harvard's Stephen Jay Gould, said, "The extreme rarity of transitional forms in the fossil record persists as the trade secret of paleontology." (Note" "extreme rarity" is Harvard-speak for "nada, zilch, zippo.")

Colin Patterson of the British Museum of Natural History agrees with Gould that "there are no transitional fossils," not even a single one "for which one could make a watertight argument."

In other words, people who study fossils for a living know there are no transitional forms but they don't want you and me to know it, because it might prompt us to stop imbibing the swill of evolution.

Gould developed an absurd theory called "punctuated equilibrium," a theory that evolution happened so fast, in such rapid bursts, that it left no trace in the fossil record. Imagine that: the only evidence he has for his theory is the total absence of any evidence whatsoever! And this guy taught at Harvard!

What the fossil record teaches us, in contrast to the theory of evolution, is that increasingly complex life forms appear fully formed in the fossil record, just as if they were put there by a Creator. This is especially true of what is called the "Pre-Cambrian Explosion," the vast, overwhelming, and quite sudden appearance of complex life forms at the dawn of time. Evolutionists are at a total loss to explain the Pre-Cambrian Explosion.

The biblical record indicates quite clearly that all things, including increasingly complex life forms, came fully formed from the hand of God.

Thus the fossil record is a powerful argument for the existence of a Creator or Intelligent Designer while at the same time being fatal for the theory of evolution.

Creation Science and Intelligent Design theory have an explanation for the fossil record; evolution does not.

Genes. The only mechanism – don't miss this – the only mechanism evolutionists have to explain the development of increasingly complex life forms is genetic mutation. Mutations alter DNA, and these alterations can be passed on to descendants.

The problem: naturally occurring genetic mutations are invariably harmful if not fatal to the organism. Rather than improve an organism's capacity to survive, they invariably weaken it. That's why the phrase we most often use to refer to genetic mutations is "birth defects."

If scientists are some day able to engineer beneficial genetic mutations in the lab, that will simply prove our point: we told you it takes intelligence and design.

Catch these two quotes. First, evolutionary microbiologist James Shapiro of the University of Chicago: "There are no detailed Darwinian accounts for the evolution of any fundamental biochemical or cellular systems, only a variety of wishful speculations."

And this from University of Bristol scientist Alan Linton: "Throughout 150 years of the science of bacteriology, there is no evidence that one species of bacteria has changed into another. None exists in the literature claiming that one species has been shown to evolve into another." (Note: "none" means "none, nada, zilch, zippo.")

And if it's never been observed in the simplest of all organisms, it shouldn't come as a surprise that it's never been observed with more complex forms. Says Linton, "There is no evidence for evolution throughout the whole array of higher multicellular organisms." (Note: "no evidence" means "no evidence, nada, zilch, zippo.")

So honest Darwinians will tell you that evolution – by which we mean the transition of one species into another – has never, not ever, been observed by anyone at any time. In other words, they believe in something that nobody has ever seen. Hmmm... And they accuse us of a blind leap of faith!

It turns out that creationists are the ones who believe in science. In fact, it's clear that creationists believe in science and evolutionists do not. If they did, they wouldn't be evolutionists, now, would they?

Bottom line: the easiest verse in the Bible to believe is the very first one of all: "In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth."


TOPICS: History; Religion; Science
KEYWORDS: billnye; creation; crevolist; evolution; intelligentdesign; kenham; scc

1 posted on 02/06/2014 6:43:49 PM PST by WXRGina
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To: WXRGina
This law (note: not a theory but a law) teaches

It's idiocy like this that has allowed the Liberals to paint Conservatives as anti-science luddites

I will suggest the author look up what exactly theory and law are in a scientific context.

2 posted on 02/06/2014 6:50:50 PM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: WXRGina

Poor Darwin, he shot down his own speculation:

If numerous species, belonging to the same genera or families, have really started into life all at once, the fact would be fatal to the theory to descent with slow modification though natural selection.


3 posted on 02/06/2014 6:54:08 PM PST by Para-Ord.45 (Americans, happy in tutelage by the reflection that they have chosen their own dictators.)
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To: qam1

Law is proven? Theory is guessing?


4 posted on 02/06/2014 6:54:27 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral)
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To: qam1
I will suggest the author look up what exactly theory and law are in a scientific context.

Yep, pretty stupid. Is there any reason to read after the first one?

This law (note: not a theory but a scientific law) teaches us that matter and energy can neither be created nor destroyed.

What exactly does the theory of evolution say about the creation of energy and matter? Someone help me out...I'm pretty sure it doesn't say a damned thing about it.

5 posted on 02/06/2014 6:54:34 PM PST by GunRunner
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To: qam1

Conservatives need to quit worrying about what liberals think of them.


6 posted on 02/06/2014 6:55:09 PM PST by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: qam1
There are several reasons that FR has kept me coming back almost daily for nigh on 16 years.

Tripe like this is not one of them.

7 posted on 02/06/2014 6:58:15 PM PST by tomkat
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To: WXRGina
Could it be that we are one of our Creator's video games? Like our video game programmers code "a formulation describing a relationship observed to be invariable between or among phenomena for all cases in which the specified conditions are met" For example that would be the law of gravity in our Creator's software; as well as, all of chemistry and physics. We and everything evolved from that. So yes we were created.

So we, our universe, good vs. evil, are just two kids playing a video game. What seems billions of years to us is just a Saturday afternoon for them -- and it's getting close to time for one of the kids to go home for supper.

8 posted on 02/06/2014 7:03:16 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: WXRGina

If we are talking about survival of the fittest, then the topic needs to be changed to de-evolution.


9 posted on 02/06/2014 7:04:43 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: WXRGina

I am cool with everything about creationism except young earth. I don’t believe that creationism must be young earth. Creationism = young earth? Is it mutually exclusive? I don’t think so.


10 posted on 02/06/2014 7:05:00 PM PST by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept?)
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To: WXRGina

It is important, yet exceedingly difficult, when dealing those who differ and mock, to view them with the eyes and mercy of the Creator, and so deal with them in love. Even those who are outside and in the dark are made in the image of God, making them His highest creation. This is true no matter how great or how small the intellect.


11 posted on 02/06/2014 7:13:28 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: WXRGina

Evolutionists have to have more “faith” in their “religion” than Creationists do in theirs. Personally, I don’t believe that the earth formed on October 30, 4004 B.C. However, I do believe in the “young earth” theory. The main reason is from the scientific data I collected as a Geotechnical Engineer in Mississippi. Up in Madison County, you dig far enough you’ll get into Unweathered Yazoo Clay, which is bluish-green and contains many small seashells and other fossils. These fossils didn’t just “gradually” settle into the soil and ossify over millions of years..Many of the shells I got still weren’t even fossilized....something cataclysmic had to happen to preserve them. To preserve anything, you have to remove oxygen and sunlight to keep it from decomposing. That’s why we have such an extensive record of the Vesuvius Volcano, but very little if anything left from the millions of Buffalo slaughtered for fun in the 1800’s and left to rot.


12 posted on 02/06/2014 7:17:40 PM PST by MuttTheHoople (Nothing is more savage and brutal than justifiably angry Americans. Don’t believe me? Ask the Germa)
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To: WXRGina
By logical extension, then, matter and energy had to come into being by some force outside the universe.

Humm.... no, by logical extension matter and energy (that may be redundant) did come from somewhere within the universe as the definition of universe means the totality of all that exists. There is nothing outside the universe and the creator is part of the universe.

13 posted on 02/06/2014 7:21:22 PM PST by Fzob (Jesus + anything = nothing, Jesus + nothing = everything)
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To: WXRGina

Its snap your finger time again.


14 posted on 02/06/2014 7:21:40 PM PST by Allen In Texas Hill Country
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To: DariusBane

I have not yet been convinced that the millions and billions of years scenarios are much more than arbitrary leaps of faith based on arbitrary assumptions. The biblical texts, when taken literally, do not attempt to pinpoint the age of the earth, but explicitly depict a Creator beyond space and time, which means the creation may demonstrate features we are inclined to err in assessing in regard to the same.

The written text (Genesis) has generational gaps, to be sure. If Adam were alive today, his experience would stretch back to the Middle Ages as we have come to learn about them. In accepting the biblical texts literally and as authoritative my inclination is to comprehend creation and history as roughly 10,000 years. Actually, that figure addends nicely as a whole history time frame in view of other instances where tens and thousands have significant semantic/theological import. But “no one knows the day or the hour.”


15 posted on 02/06/2014 7:23:24 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: MuttTheHoople

A world wide flood might of preserved your specimens. :)


16 posted on 02/06/2014 7:24:05 PM PST by Bulwyf
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To: WXRGina

Ping for later


17 posted on 02/06/2014 7:29:44 PM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: qam1

The author reminds me of the teenager who is taught about entropy and uses that as an argument against cleaning his room.


18 posted on 02/06/2014 7:41:25 PM PST by Kozak ("Send them back your fierce defiance! Stamp upon the cursed alliance! To arms, to arms in Dixie!)
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To: Fzob

Except that by common usage “universe” is frequently understood as the totality of all *natural* things, that is, mainly material things. As evolution is an adjunct of the larger proposition of materialism, it is easy to understand why this usage occurs as a means of distinguishing the Creator, a Spirit, from His material creation, which in turn is a key feature of traditional Christian theology.


19 posted on 02/06/2014 7:41:25 PM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: logitech

ping


20 posted on 02/06/2014 7:44:04 PM PST by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: SkyDancer

So music theory is guessing how the song will sound?

There are more than one definition of theory and a failure to realize that is one of the reasons science types disparage the religion


21 posted on 02/06/2014 7:58:41 PM PST by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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To: qam1

In this case the poster is correct there are 3 LAWS of thermodynamics and evolution violates it provided there are no outside inputs to a closed system. If the universe is a system then it should degrade without outside inputs. There are few laws but Thermo has 3.


22 posted on 02/06/2014 8:00:07 PM PST by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothings)
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To: DariusBane

what’s a year to god compared to a year to us?


23 posted on 02/06/2014 8:01:28 PM PST by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothings)
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To: MuttTheHoople
Evolutionists have to have more “faith” in their “religion” than Creationists do in theirs. Personally, I don’t believe that the earth formed on October 30, 4004 B.C. However, I do believe in the “young earth” theory. The main reason is from the scientific data I collected as a Geotechnical Engineer in Mississippi. Up in Madison County, you dig far enough you’ll get into Unweathered Yazoo Clay, which is bluish-green and contains many small seashells and other fossils. These fossils didn’t just “gradually” settle into the soil and ossify over millions of years..Many of the shells I got still weren’t even fossilized....something cataclysmic had to happen to preserve them. To preserve anything, you have to remove oxygen and sunlight to keep it from decomposing. That’s why we have such an extensive record of the Vesuvius Volcano, but very little if anything left from the millions of Buffalo slaughtered for fun in the 1800’s and left to rot.

Current estimations of earth age are made from analysis of long half-life radio isotopes like uranium. You could find unassailable proof those shell were deposited there in the last 2000 years, but that won't do anything to prove how old the Earth is, or disprove the radiometrics.

24 posted on 02/06/2014 8:12:40 PM PST by tacticalogic
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To: MuttTheHoople
...but very little if anything left from the millions of Buffalo slaughtered for fun in the 1800’s and left to rot.

Could be because the buffalo bones were collected and ground into bone meal for fertilizer.


25 posted on 02/06/2014 8:48:51 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Allen In Texas Hill Country; All
Its snap your finger time again.

Or blink your eyes. :)

26 posted on 02/06/2014 8:58:04 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: reed13k

Where does evolution violate the laws of thermodynamics?


27 posted on 02/06/2014 9:21:09 PM PST by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

Its an MMO, way more than 2 kids.


28 posted on 02/06/2014 9:42:04 PM PST by enduserindy (A painted trash can is still a trash can.)
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To: WXRGina
evolution teaches that everything that exists is the product of the random collision of atoms,

If that's the case, you would not bear any resemblance to your parents or relatives.

Recommended reading ... "Darwin's Ghost" by Steve Jones.

29 posted on 02/06/2014 9:46:33 PM PST by OldNavyVet (Robert's revenge lies in our getting rid of Democrat control in House, Senate and Preisdent.)
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To: WXRGina

I have no problem with the idea of a creator making life that is pre-programmed to adapt to changing conditions.


30 posted on 02/06/2014 9:46:54 PM PST by enduserindy (A painted trash can is still a trash can.)
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To: WXRGina

Everything has a mathematical formula.

Where did that math come from?


31 posted on 02/06/2014 9:50:57 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: WXRGina

Bill Nye is a loser. he is just what the left wants a mouth piece that has no answers. No Transitional fossils, no answers about the “big bang” theory. When this junk science is the drum beat for over 50 years it is no wonder that all the low brows are believing it.


32 posted on 02/06/2014 10:00:55 PM PST by Busko (The only thing that is certain is that nothing is certain.)
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To: Busko

Low brows, as in Neanderthals, as in missing links.


33 posted on 02/06/2014 10:13:48 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: WXRGina

who are the creationist going to debate next, professor proton? This is embarassing...


34 posted on 02/06/2014 10:55:48 PM PST by Paradox (Unexpected things coming for the next few years.)
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To: WXRGina

“But what does the theory of evolution teach us? The exact opposite, that the universe is headed toward increasing complexity and order.”

Believe whatever you wish on the topic, but this statement is nonsense. That evolution (or “order”) occurs in one small part of the overall universe does not violate any laws of thermodynamics over the entire universe - and does not represent “the universe headed toward increasing complexity and order”

Increasing disorder over the entire universe does not preclude certain subset areas from obtaining increasing order for some period of time.


35 posted on 02/06/2014 11:10:18 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: WXRGina

“It turns out that creationists are the ones who believe in science”

Actually, creationists have so little Faith that they seek to rationalize what cannot be rationalized - the mystery of God.


36 posted on 02/06/2014 11:16:17 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: WXRGina

Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, [even] his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

So the invisible things are clearly seen.   So they should
be as plain as the nose on your face or even something simple as your eyebrows.  Can you explain why you have eyebrows?  They have no visible use, they don’t keep rain or dust out of your eyes. Hair covering your face like apes like which we are supposed to have descended from would have protected your face better.  But the most interesting thing about eyebrows is their symmetry.  It’s almost like an artist put them there .  If they were an accident of evolution would they be perfectly symmetrical?

And looking at the hairline we see that it is a definite line where evolution would have given you a random, jagged line and yet it is a straight line .  And the eyebrows are a completely different kind of hair than that growing on your head. Eyebrows grow to a very short length, where the length of the hair on your head can drag the floor but are only separated by just a few inches of forehead.

Symmetry defines what we perceive as beauty, a beautiful woman loses her appeal with some parts of  her body are of different sizes. When we create something we incorporate symmetry.
We see symmetry throughout all nature, take the bee for example.  Even assuming that they could understand the concept of flight and assuming that he could force his body to produce wings, having perfectly symmetrical wings is essential to flight. One wing longer or shorter than than the other, one wing not even with the other on the body, will not result in flight. If evolution was true there would be birds with wings on their bellies, or feet, and there would be some with non symmetrical wings, animals with uneven legs.

We believe that this symmetry comes from a Great Artist Creator Whom we call choose to call God.  It is there in nature if you only chose to look for it,  the handywork of this Great Artist’s hand.  We believe that there is no such things as missing links, only the same strokes used by The Great Painter to create different animals, birds, flowers etc.  Open your eyes and you will see His brush strokes, even in your mirror at home.


37 posted on 02/07/2014 3:31:04 AM PST by liliesgrandpa (Just out of curiosity, is there any possible GOP candidate that is too repugnant for you to support?)
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To: DariusBane

Here’s what I don’t get about Christians (I’m one of a small bunch).

Many times throughout the Bible the concept of “A Thousand years is like a day and a day is like a thousand years” to God. How is it we as Christians are forced into believing the beginning of time is fixed with statements such as this.

If the Heavens and Earth were created in 6 days, yet the Bible clearly states that time is relative...how are we so stuck on this point? Wouldn’t the most correct answer seem to be that God created the Heavens and earth in a time period in which time didn’t yet exist as we know it?

Everything else seems to fall in place with this in mind, right?

its 3 am...my toddler woke me up... Hopefully my thinking isn’t too fragmented.


38 posted on 02/07/2014 4:03:13 AM PST by 1st I.D Vet
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To: RFEngineer

Sorry, but we will never agree.


39 posted on 02/07/2014 6:47:54 AM PST by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: liliesgrandpa

Excellent comments, and spot-on, Grandpa!


40 posted on 02/07/2014 6:50:02 AM PST by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: 1st I.D Vet

The Bible does not say that time is relative in a general sense. In 2 Peter 3:8, in speaking of Jesus’ second coming, Peter is illustrating that what we consider “slow” is not slow to the Lord. The Lord is not bound by time; He is outside of time. BUT, He created time and put us in it—in the beginning.

Genesis is a literal account of the creation, and when the Lord says it was evening and morning the first day, etc., He means A DAY, a literal day, as we understand a day. That’s not allegory.

God is an infinite Being, Who is unimaginably powerful. A Being Who IS ABLE to create the world, the stars, the universe and all that is in them—Yes, He’s more than able to do it in six days.


41 posted on 02/07/2014 7:02:39 AM PST by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: WXRGina
God would be the greatest Liar of all time if he created the universe six thousand years ago, and then salted it with false evidence pointing to an age in the billions.

Of course, it's possible that, Matrix-like, we live in a universe created by God to be a perfect simulacrum of a universe in which he does not exist......

42 posted on 02/07/2014 9:58:56 AM PST by Notary Sojac (Uzbeks drank my battery fluid!!)
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To: Notary Sojac

“False evidence”? Or misinterpreted evidence?

God is not, never has been, and never will be, a liar.


43 posted on 02/07/2014 10:59:39 AM PST by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: 1st I.D Vet

I believe the christian bible was inspired by God, but recorded and translated with the fallible hand of man.

I’ve heard many say that God would not allow his word to be mis-recorded or mis-represented. If that were so, we would not need all the different versions/translations of the texts, to include the (laughable) new “Politically Correct” version.

Bottom line: I believe the bible was inspired by God and originally written so as to be understood by the (relatively speaking) primitive peoples of the age and that over time, (even if with all good intention) has been “translated” to the point where bits and pieces my have (ahem) “drifted” from the original intent. That’s not God, that’s *Man*.

Regardless, no one, not even the great Bill Nye or the smartest freeper can understand God until God grants Man that level of understanding and the ability to comprehend fully. In the meantime, I won’t fret if someone takes the Genesis creation account literally and I won’t fret if they take it figuratively. Why should I care how long it took? The point is that God created all and/or caused all to be created — however you want to look at it. God enjoys all the leeway he wishes to get his points across.

As far as I am concerned, Evolution does not preclude a creator and Creationism/ID does not preclude evolution. Humans trying to make sense of either is all too often the height of folly, but can make for interesting conversation if it can be kept civil. Unfortunately, far too many people are too heavily emotionally invested in the argument on both sides (whether they can admit it or not).

Anyway, that’s my $.02 from the peanut gallery.


44 posted on 02/07/2014 12:33:10 PM PST by jaydee770
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To: WXRGina
“Throughout 150 years of the science of bacteriology, there is no evidence that one species of bacteria has changed into another. None exists in the literature claiming that one species has been shown to evolve into another.”

How does this comment reconcile with the fact that we are constantly being told that bacteria are evolving in order to become resistant to antibiotics?

45 posted on 06/16/2014 7:04:46 AM PDT by Awgie (truth is always stranger than fiction)
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How does this comment reconcile with the fact that we are constantly being told that bacteria are evolving in order to become resistant to antibiotics?

Bacteria developing natural (i.e. God-given), defensive resistance to antibiotics does not illustrate bacteria macro-evolving into another "species."

46 posted on 06/16/2014 8:08:14 AM PDT by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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