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Republican Jolly wins crucial Florida bellwether special election
The Hill ^ | March 11, 2014 | Alexandra Jaffe

Posted on 03/12/2014 1:07:16 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Republican David Jolly defeated Democrat Alex Sink in the special election to fill Florida’s 13th district on Tuesday night, delivering a stinging blow to Democrats that underscores their vulnerability to ObamaCare attacks.

With all precincts reporting, Jolly topped Sink 48.4 percent to 46.5 percent, winning by 3,417 votes. Libertarian Lucas Overby took nearly 5 percent of the vote.

Sink’s loss in the race to succeed the late Rep. Bill Young (R-Fla.) was seen by Republicans as evidence the political winds are blowing hard against Democrats in their uphill pursuit of the 17 seats they’ll need to take back the House.

“Tonight, one of Nancy Pelosi’s most prized candidates was ultimately brought down because of her unwavering support for ObamaCare, and that should be a loud warning for other Democrats running coast to coast," National Republican Congressional Committee Chairman Greg Walden (Ore.) said in a statement.

A swing district held by a Republican but won by President Obama in 2012, Florida’s 13th district is exactly the playing field Democrats need to win in this cycle to be successful. Democrats pointed out that the special election turnout would always trend GOP, and they downplayed their loss on Tuesday evening.

“Democrats will fight for FL-13 in the midterm, when the electorate is far less heavily tilted toward Republicans. Despite those millions from Republican outside groups, they underperformed because the only message they offered voters – repealing the ACA – is out of touch and failed to bring them even close to their historically wide margins," said Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee Chairman Steve Israel (N.Y.).

Sink said in a statement that she had congratulated Jolly and wished him “the best success” in representing the district in Congress.

She said that while the outcome wasn’t what she had hoped, she’s “proud of the race we have run,” and grateful to her supporters — and left the door open to future political activity, though she gave no indication of what that might be.

“My life has always been shaped by a deep commitment to service and problem solving, and I look forward to finding new ways and new avenues to continue practicing these values in pursuit of doing good for our community, our state and our country,” she said.

While Democrats are not expected to contend for the House majority, the loss will add to the party’s worries about losing the Senate.

And it provided proof for Republicans that their current strategy — to hammer vulnerable Democrats and Democratic candidates on the healthcare law — remains sound. Jolly had been seen as a flawed candidate, so his victory will only increase the GOP’s confidence in November.

Groups backing Jolly spent $4.9 million on television, mail and web attacks hammering that message home.

“Canceled health plans, higher premiums, Medicare cuts, people losing their doctors, a disaster for families and seniors,” says the narrator in one ad hitting Sink, launched by the Chamber of Commerce.

Democratic groups fought back, however, spending $3.7 million on the race to make their own argument on the health care law and hammer Jolly for his lobbying background and issues important to senior voters, like Social Security.

Sink’s rebuttal on the health care law is one Democrats believe will translate in races nationwide: They’re the party that wants to fix the law, rather than repeal it and go back to the lawlessness of the health care system before reform.

They point to polling that shows a majority of Americans would prefer lawmakers fix the law rather than throw it out entirely as evidence they’re on the right side of the issue.

But Jolly’s win may indicate that message may not be enough to answer Republican attacks.

Still, even as Republicans paint the race as a bellwether for their chances in other competitive districts this cycle, unique circumstances in Florida’s 13th make it an imperfect testing ground for the parties’ respective narratives.

The special election electorate was long expected to heavily favor Republicans, which Democrats were pointing to before Election Day as evidence of the difficult task they faced. Though the district went for Obama in 2008 and 2012, it did so narrowly, and was held for three decades by the late Rep. Bill Young (R ).

And Sink, though considered a top-tier candidate, was also known for her difficulty with retail campaigning and an occasional awkwardness in answering unscripted questions that more than once drew her campaign off-message.

It’s hard to see Jolly’s win as less than evidence that Democrats still face a turnout problem and difficulties with ObamaCare this cycle, however, as he was a deeply flawed candidate with a nightmare background as a lobbyist that made easy fodder for Democratic attack ads.

The race also appears to have been a testing ground for new rules and tactics from Republican groups, as much as it was one for the respective parties’ messages.

The Republican National Committee issued a release touting its coordination with the National Republican Congressional Committee and the Florida GOP, outlining a number of new tech and data tools it implemented in the race, including a “new voter scoring tool to find the right voters,” a “new canvassing app to gather data” and a new interface that allowed volunteers to share data in real time.

RNC spokeswoman Kirsten Kukowski said those tools are all things “we will be replicating across the country in Senate races” this cycle.

Republicans had notorious trouble keeping up with President Obama’s groundbreaking tech and data operation in the 2012 elections, and they’ve pledged to catch up to Democrats’ advantage on that front in time for 2016.

It’s unclear how instrumental those new data tools were in delivering a win to Jolly.


TOPICS: Government; Health/Medicine; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: 2014; 2014midterms; fl13dist; fl2014; jolly; sink

1 posted on 03/12/2014 1:07:16 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: All
Obama raises cash as Dems suffer blow

"President Obama hosted a high-priced fundraiser Tuesday night as his party suffered a stinging loss in Florida's special election.

In his remarks, Obama did not address Republican David Jolly's narrow victory over Democrat Alex Sink for the late Rep. Bill Young's (R-Fla.) House seat. Instead, he touted that his administration provided health care for millions of Americans and that the growth of health care costs had slowed."...

2 posted on 03/12/2014 1:09:36 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

There was a primary special election before this general special election.

Jolly won a three way race for the GOP nomination over two candidates including a retired military officer backed by Colonel Allen West.

Jolly campaigned as a “repeal and replace” Obamacare candidate in the vein of GOP House leaders John Boehner and Eric Cantor.

Jolly also campaigned invoking the name of his former boss who he is replacing, the late Congressman Bill Young.

Jolly called himself a “Bill Young Conservative” in his ads.

In reporting on Jolly’s win tonight the “Washington Post” noted that Young was a “moderate known for steering federal dollars to the district”.


3 posted on 03/12/2014 1:20:24 AM PDT by Nextrush (AFFORDABLE CARE ACT=HEALTH CARE INDUSTRY BAILOUT ACT)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I know some libertarians and I simply cannot comprehend how they think they are lending assistance to their ideological interests by diluting the voter base of the most conservative candidate?

If I was a democrat candidate, I would donate to the libertarians!


4 posted on 03/12/2014 1:39:57 AM PDT by Samurai_Jack (ride out and confront the evil!)
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To: Samurai_Jack
Some of them probably did. That's how Sink was outspent $4.9 million to $3.7 million.

With all the sugar Daddies in the jackass party, does anyone really think this contest was lost due to a lack of $1.2 million in extra spending?

5 posted on 03/12/2014 2:09:11 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Na Na Hey Hey
6 posted on 03/12/2014 2:40:24 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Jolly/Sink


7 posted on 03/12/2014 2:44:05 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I just hope that Jolly has the intestinal fortitude to fight all the way every single attempt by the Dems to re-re-re-re-”count” ballots and not cave at the first 5-vote Dem lead.


8 posted on 03/12/2014 2:44:07 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Samurai_Jack
Libertarian Lucas Overby took nearly 5 percent of the vote.

Yes, once again the "libertarians" working hard to elect Democrats.

9 posted on 03/12/2014 2:57:03 AM PDT by iowamark (I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy)
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To: iowamark

I wonder how many of these “libertarians” are in fact “free thinkers” hoping to cleanse the conservative wing of “religious fanatics.”


10 posted on 03/12/2014 2:59:02 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: fwdude

Sink conceded...

Highly doubt she will pull an Owl Gore....


11 posted on 03/12/2014 3:21:16 AM PDT by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

——I wonder how many of these “libertarians” are in fact “free thinkers” hoping to cleanse the conservative wing of “religious fanatics.”-——

A lot...and lots of Paulbots....


12 posted on 03/12/2014 3:23:45 AM PDT by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Vigilanteman

“That’s how Sink was outspent $4.9 million to $3.7 million.”

Sink, a true communist to the bone (her husband ran for president on the communist ticket) got 46.7 percent of the vote. That’s WAY to close. November will not be an easy sweep. The district is probably bluer than Miami and still it took an extra million or so to pull of a win. Shameful. (Didn’t realize Allan West was in the running.)


13 posted on 03/12/2014 3:46:01 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Gen.Blather
“That’s how Sink was outspent $4.9 million to $3.7 million.” Sink, a true communist to the bone (her husband ran for president on the communist ticket) got 46.7 percent of the vote. That’s WAY to close. November will not be an easy sweep. The district is probably bluer than Miami and still it took an extra million or so to pull of a win. Shameful. (Didn’t realize Allan West was in the running.)

Figures don't lie but liars figure. There is absolutely no way that Sink didn't outspend Jolly by 3 maybe 4 to 1. I don't live in that district but I do live in that media market. The DNC and DNCC and aligned groups poured bucket loads of money into that race.

14 posted on 03/12/2014 3:58:34 AM PDT by WHBates
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Glad to see Bill Clinton is still the kiss of death to candidates he shills for.


15 posted on 03/12/2014 3:59:14 AM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry (Audentis Fortuna Iuvat)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The RAT strategy to run a third-party candidate that siphons votes away from the Republican didn’t work this time.

Wonder what that portends.


16 posted on 03/12/2014 3:59:58 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Shoot cops that shoot dogs.)
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To: WHBates

“There is absolutely no way that Sink didn’t outspend Jolly by 3 maybe 4 to 1.”

I thought there were laws forcing candidates to declare spending. Also, I’d guess independent groups could spend in her favor, but they have to declare who spent the money at the end of the piece. “Paid for by the XXX to elect Alex Sink.” I hope you’re right, but it would take breaking some laws to spend on this without filing the required tracking.

I can tell you this from direct knowledge. Bill Young’s opponent in the last election was a young uber-liberal woman named Urlich. She got 40% of the vote, which is the approximate zero baseline count for either party. A corpse will get 40% of the partisan vote. All elections are for the 11% in the middle. The Democratic party was backing Urlich, then Urlich got a call from the party “instructing” her to withdraw and throw their support behind Sink. The party had decided (correctly) that they wanted an experienced “name” on the ballot. They promised to back Urlich in another race at another time.

I had mutual friends and got the inside scoop.


17 posted on 03/12/2014 4:11:55 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The Libertarian pulled 5% and Sink still lost. The GOP-e better wake up, because this should have been more lopsided, and they probably know it.

In WA state, you HAVE to win by 3 percent or more because of the outright vote fraud and ballot box stuffing and disappearances here. There’s also the military vote suppression.

In WA, the libs ‘hit till they’re happy’ - recount until they win.

I would expect the same unbridled disregard for the rule of law this time around that we’ve come to expect from his Imperial Majesty Obama I.


18 posted on 03/12/2014 4:28:08 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
A swing district held by a Republican but won by President Obama in 2012, Florida’s 13th district is exactly the playing field Democrats need to win in this cycle to be successful. Democrats pointed out that the special election turnout would always trend GOP, and they downplayed their loss on Tuesday evening.

Last week, Larry Sabato said that sink was up by 7% in the polls, that the district was trending demonRAT, and he predicted sink would win.

Politico said that the RNC was abandoning it's jolly demeanor and regretted his being in the race.

OPPPPSSSSS....

19 posted on 03/12/2014 4:34:14 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Exterminate the terrorrist savages, everywhere.)
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To: USS Alaska

Good old Lefty Larry is dead wrong again.
Larry is a Dem party con and nothing more.
I recall this DNC push poll expert predicted W would lose in 2004 and stated bet on it.
Why this guy is not laughed out of the media tell us how much control the Dems party has over all the media push poll propaganda.

How about that phony PPP fraud poll showing Slunk by 3 pts!
Another Dem push poll / con artist.
That trial lawyer crook who strip mined a local bank during a merger did not even live in the district!Her mansion overlooks the Palma Ceia country club in South Tampa!


20 posted on 03/12/2014 4:48:36 AM PDT by ncalburt ( Amnesty-media out in full force)
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To: WHBates
Well, yes. But they all got to fly under the radar spending union money or GOTV money. That doesn't count in enemedia figures. Only money spend by evvvvvvvvil corporations, the Koch Brothers and individual sugar daddies and mommies.

Still, by my calculations, even the "official" money comes out to over $47 per vote. For that kind of money, we would be way ahead by buying a nice 750ml bottle of Johnny Walker for every "brother" who didn't show up to vote.

21 posted on 03/12/2014 4:49:53 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Popman

These “free thinking” Paul supporters are the conflicted wing of conservative voters. These “Paulbots” as you call them, are a political hybrid between liberals and conservatives - more liberal than conservative. They are opportunists, willing to do whatever is necessary to win. They were taught history by liberals, though their instincts correctly tell them conservatism works. Many are arrogant (believing themselves pure) and in your face (entitled), while ignorant of (and not willing to do the hard work to learn) history. The Left couldn’t have arranged a better way to splinter the opposition’s vote.

After saying (in a 2011 campaign ad) that he had stood with Ronald Reagan, Ron Paul’s 1987 letter resigning from the Republican Party was revisited.

http://theiowarepublican.com/2011/ron-paul%E2%80%99s-reagan-revisionism/


22 posted on 03/12/2014 4:53:05 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

So Jolly’s ads simply pointed out the truth while the democrat ads had to lie (”He’s trying to destroy social security!”), the libertarian took thousands more votes than is usual, and they still lost. Heh


23 posted on 03/12/2014 4:54:37 AM PDT by MNnice
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Here's the real message, both ominous, bad and necessary:

OMINOUS
She said that while the outcome wasn’t what she had hoped, she’s “proud of the race we have run,” and grateful to her supporters — and left the door open to future political activity, though she gave no indication of what that might be.

“My life has always been shaped by a deep commitment to service and problem solving, and I look forward to finding new ways and new avenues to continue practicing these values in pursuit of doing good for our community, our state and our country,” she said.

Translation: we don't control the county elections office yet enough to create the bags of ballots needed to put us over the top, but that will change.

BAD
It’s hard to see Jolly’s win as less than evidence that Democrats still face a turnout problem and difficulties with ObamaCare this cycle, however, as he was a deeply flawed candidate with a nightmare background as a lobbyist that made easy fodder for Democratic attack ads.

Jolly is in Boehner's camp, now a member of the GOPe who own him with the near $5 million they sunk into his campaign and yet he did not win a majority and the margin was just under 2%.

This is not good news for Tea Party conservatives as Jolly who is adapted to feed at the GOPe pig's trough inside the Beltway will vote the way his masters tell him to vote. He will be a 'yes' for amnesty and other assorted horrors that Boehnor hides in his pocket.

NECESSARY
Tea Party conservatives must oust Boehner at the earliest opportunity and take control of the Speakership. Then members of Boehner's camp will follow the new Speaker and conservative line votes will become the norm. However, the gluttony that GOPe branded members are accustomed to must end as drastic spending cuts, real cuts take hold. Pigs such as Jolly must be transformed into hungry cougars capable of stalking prey for months or years with minimal food,

The Tea Party activist network in each congressional district must continue to be filled with passionate people that are willing to donate every spare moment to get out the vote. Candidates selected for Tea Party promotion must be so well vetted that a war chest of less than a million would win in a district such as Jolly's with a landslide majority.

Enough already of the GOPe selection and backing of miserable risky candidates such as Jolly.

24 posted on 03/12/2014 4:58:24 AM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: RinaseaofDs

Nail-Hammer; Spot On. Well done.

See my Post #24.


25 posted on 03/12/2014 5:03:37 AM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Is this the cathartic moment when the realization sets in that Obamacare has destroyed the Democratic Party? Should be.

2014 is going to be another 2010, it is now apparent. Harry Reid will be forced to allow a vote now to deal with the ACA, the dem senators will demand it. The message here is that either they deal with it now, or they’re going down. All of them.

Pass the popcorn...


26 posted on 03/12/2014 5:08:48 AM PDT by wayoverontheright
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To: Arm_Bears

This piece in the Dec 31, 2013 issue of National Review is remarkable. You can substitute “libertarian” for the author’s experiences with British elites (and later even though he went through his liberal stage as a youth, he never lost his affinity for freedom, liberty and the United States). It was his study of American history that sealed the deal.

“My American Dream”

Discovering the U.S. Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, the Federalist and Anti-Federalist papers, and the men who, in Frederick Douglass’s immortal words, “preferred revolution to peaceful submission to bondage,” I felt as the heathens of old must have when they discovered the Bible.

By Charles C. W. Cooke

“If you hang around a British person long enough, you are practically guaranteed to hear him make a derisive quip about Americans.

In all likelihood, he won’t even notice that he’s done it. I have been at many dinner parties at which it has been baldly stated, without embarrassment or regret, that Americans are “all fat” or “all stupid,” or . . . well, you can pretty much choose your epithet at random, and I have watched with irritation as the line was met with general agreement. It is a peculiar thing that reflexive anti-Americanism is tolerated in Britain and beyond to a degree that no other rudeness is. On occasion, I have tried to point this out, puckishly inquiring as to whether the speaker would make the same charge with a different nationality. “Nigerians are all stupid,” perhaps? I think not....”

https://www.nationalreview.com/nrd/articles/366731/my-american-dream


27 posted on 03/12/2014 5:13:45 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Succinct and spot on....

I never really thought of “Paulbots” as hybrids...

More of being immature conservatives...

Your post makes a lot of sense...


28 posted on 03/12/2014 5:18:39 AM PDT by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

is this the divorced dude with the 28 year old girlfriend


29 posted on 03/12/2014 5:49:13 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk
Indeed it is.

Call him David Very Jolly.


30 posted on 03/12/2014 6:01:42 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: Fightin Whitey

yeah why can’t we get some Republican candidates with integrity


31 posted on 03/12/2014 6:03:20 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Popman
More of being immature conservatives...

That's a good term - not fully baked, still searching.

32 posted on 03/12/2014 6:07:59 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

RNC spokeswoman Kirsten Kukowski said those tools are all things “we will be replicating across the country in Senate races” this cycle.


Notice RNC focus on the techniques, not the message of obomacare. That is the lesson they learned.


33 posted on 03/12/2014 6:08:35 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple
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To: PeterPrinciple

I did notice.

Process not product.


34 posted on 03/12/2014 6:11:31 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: All
Debbie Wassername must be swilling vodka and valium as we type. Lock-stepping Dumbos kept swearing they were gonna run and win on the (gag) "glories" of Obamacare b/c "if you like your plan, you can keep your plan."

(waiting for hysterical laughter to die down)

THE DUMBOCRAT LOSER LIST MOUNTS: Lock-stepping Democrats Feinstein, Boxer AND Pres Obama all endorsed the San Diego Democrat latino loser Alvarez (Third World pressure groups ordered to vote illegally were no-shows).

Obamacare was touted as Democrat Valhalla. As far back as 2008, at the presidential debate in Nashville, Democrat candidate Obama advanced his signature healthcare plan---ultimately enacted, by an historic straight Democrat party-line vote, into the "Affordable Care Act"

QUOTING 2008 OBAMA: "No. 1, let me just repeat, if you’ve got a health care plan that you like, you can keep it. All I’m going to do is help you to lower the premiums on it. You’ll still have choice of doctor.” Repeated over and over again---- with his promise that every American family would be saving $2500.00 on healthcare costs.

Significantly, Obamba NEVER corrected lock-stepping Democrats, all reading from the same Democrat talking points, all of them repeating the same Democrat promises---over and over again.

LOCK-STEPPING PARTY LOYALTY NOT SEEN SINCE 1930-40's ERA EUROPE Obama And the Dems marched in lockstep.....the persistent Dumbocrat drumbeat ---- in obeisance to Obama ---- kept ringing reassuringly in our ears: "If you like your plan, you can keep your plan."

SEN. BARBARA BOXER (D-CALIF): “So we Democrats want people to be able to keep the health care they have. And the answer to that is choice of plans. And in the state exchange, we’re going to have lots of different plans, and people will be able to keep the health care coverage they need and they want.” (Sen. Boxer, Press Release, 2/8/11)

SEN DIANNE FEINSTEIN (D-CALI): “I listened to the president and I believed him when he said, 'if you like your plan, you can keep your plan.' I believed he was correct. I didn't realize there were all these codicils attached to it. President Obama should never have promised that people would be able to keep their health plans. I think he was done a disservice. Someone should have stopped him and said – on his staff. There's this condition and that condition."

SEN. MARY LANDRIEU (D-La): “If you like the insurance that you have, you’ll be able to keep it.” (MSNBC’s Hardball, 12/16/09)

THEN-HOUSE MAJORITY LEADER NANCY PELOSI (Dim-CALIF): "We must pass the O-care bill so we can find out what’s in it."

The lock-stepping list goes on and on.

35 posted on 03/12/2014 6:12:33 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Liz; All

Jan 9, 2014 - “The Race Democrats Can’t Afford to Lose”

“.......On the other hand, since most nonpartisan handicappers and analysts have for years expected this seat to go Democratic when it became open, a Republican victory in March would likely say something about the national political environment and the inclination of district voters to send a message of dissatisfaction about the president. And that possibility should worry the White House.

The National Republican Congressional Committee would love to keep this Florida seat in the special election. The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee cannot afford to lose it. Those are two very different perspectives that reflect the relative importance of this election to the two parties.”

http://blogs.rollcall.com/rothenblog/the-race-democrats-cant-afford-to-lose/


36 posted on 03/12/2014 6:16:40 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry
Glad to see Bill Clinton is still the kiss of death to candidates he shills for.

Amen.........this does not bode well for 2016 Hillary.

Florida is a scab that refuses to heal WRT Democrat's presidential ambitions---- b/c of the Gore loss to Bush over a hanging chad. The USSC was deployed due to the legal brilliance of Bush SoS James Baker---who outmaneuvered Gore's people at every turn. The Dems ploy is to count and count until they have the votes to win----the Supremes ordered the count to stop.

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I do believe Billy-Boy---paranoid over Hillary's chances--- stepped in it bigtime when he advised Obama to keep his promise---to let people keep their plans.

Now, more than ever, the electorate is focused on the blunders of Obamacare........ which preceded Hillarycare. In fact, it was 2007 Hillary Clinton who originally used the wonderfully reassuring “if you like your plan, you can keep your plan."

Hillary's 2007 campaign website was unearthed by America Rising. America's Rising found written on the website under "HILLARYCARE"---AKA Hillary’s American Health Choices Plan---the phrase: “if you have a plan you like, you keep it.”

VIDEO http://burstupdates.wordpress.com/2013/11/15/hillary-2007-if-you-like-your-plan-you-can-keep-it/

See a smiling Hillary (above) in 2007, saying: “You can keep the doctors you know and trust. You keep the insurance you have. If you have private insurance you like, nothing changes, you can keep that insurance.”

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MOMENTS TO REMEMBER In 2009, retiring Arkansas Rep. Marion Berry presciently warned that ObamaCare was setting up the Democrats for a huge 2010 midterms defeat (just like “HillaryCare” had led to a loss of 54 House seats in 1994).

Ego-driven Obama scoffed at such concerns. Berry said the president told him, “Well, the big difference here and in ’94 was you’ve got me.”

END GAME Republicans went on to win 63 House seats and six Senate seats. It was the largest swing in the House since 1938. Looks like the "difference" was Obama (/snix).

Onward.....to 2014.

37 posted on 03/12/2014 6:30:21 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Yeah-—love it-—especially when David “I’m harmless” Axelrod weighed in.

You remember Axelrod?

He was Obama’s election “genius.”

ROTFLOL.


38 posted on 03/12/2014 6:40:45 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The Brits have yet to get over losing us, and to us. Tends to sour their perspective, even though we’ve saved their bacon a number of times.

I also apply the “shoe on the other foot” technique described by Mr. Cooke. Makes for some interesting discussions.


39 posted on 03/12/2014 6:43:34 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Shoot cops that shoot dogs.)
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To: Hostage

I would agree with this, but with this sort of modifier - you will likely get some sort of COMPROMISE with the Tea Party, not the speakership.

It’s still a one-party system there, which is to say Appropriators.

It is so much easier to see Congress through that lens. Conservatives look at ideology, but what drives action in Congress is appropriations.

There has to be some middle ground, a realization that its spun too far out of control and must be remastered.

The Tea Party won’t get that their first time trying to take a gavel.


40 posted on 03/12/2014 11:50:40 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: Nextrush

I should have read your post before replying to Hostage. This guy isn’t R or D, he’s A (Appropriator).


41 posted on 03/12/2014 11:52:38 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: RinaseaofDs

The problem with successful movements such as Tea Party Conservatism (which will continue to grow and win) is that previous adversaries feign agreement with the new ideology.

Once Tea Party conservatives take the helm, we will hear many moderates and progressives in the republican establishment claim they were always conservatives and that they support the new Tea Party backed leadership, that they always supported the new leadership.

This is human nature.

The problem comes about when these characters position themselves or surrogates to take back leadership in a deceptive way and then drive the performance according to the older failed practices.

Yes they become appropriators, most all of them and they give in to taking whatever they can get.

It’s hard to maintain a crusade, a war of ideas when money is needed to make the operation successful. But those trained in guerrilla warfare such as were the original revolutionaries can succeed if they are determined, if they have enough support and if they have brilliant and daring leadership.

If the Senate had gotten behind Ted Cruz last Fall in his game of chicken with Obama, they would have won. Public sentiment and polls were shifting in a big way to those making the stand. Even the BBC in England was reporting the republicans were winning. But as Boehner caved the NY media wrote their version of history.


42 posted on 03/12/2014 1:20:50 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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