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GAY MARRIAGE: The Mason-Dixon Line of Tolerance
Dignitas Tea Party News ^ | April 8, 2014 | Paul Winters

Posted on 04/08/2014 3:11:27 PM PDT by dignitasnews

The recent ousting of Mozilla CEO Brendan Eich highlights not just the huge cultural divide on the gay marriage debate, but our nation's dangerous misunderstanding of the term "tolerance." Tolerance is an absolute necessity in any free society. As defined by Merriam-Webster, tolerance is the willingness to accept feelings, habits, or beliefs that are different from your own. As we live in a society of more than 300 million diverse individuals, this is an essential nature to ensure domestic tranquility. The entire concept of liberty depends on each and every one of us accept that there are beliefs, attitudes and activities that differ from our own, even reprehensible to some.

[caption id="attachment_460" align="alignleft" width="150"]How can this happen in America? How can this happen in America?[/caption]

And while much of the progressive-left wears the badge of tolerance on their shoulders, it is specifically this group which most practices an attitude of intolerance and exclusion. In our age, this intolerance has found its manifestation in the gay marriage debate. As the left defines the issue, to simply disagree with placing same-sex marriages on the same legal and moral plane as traditional marriage is not simply an opinion on a particular policy issue, but defines one as "anti-gay." To the left, there is no debate, there is no just cause to weigh the far reaching consequences of establishing such a cultural shift. No, to them and the gay-left, to disagree is to be homophobic and hate-filled. This doesn't leave much room for discussion or reasonable debate, the very foundations of our Republic and the very essence of the tolerance they claim to base their entire world view on.

If we, as reasonable adults, cannot agree that there differing opinions on this issue, there can be no dialogue, there can be no understanding and there can be middle ground to be found. If the larger gay community as a whole insists that to disapprove of gay marriage is to be "anti-gay" then we have a serious problem which will never be mended.

We can easily address the tangible benefits the gay community purports to achieve. Would most conservatives support granting civil partners the tax benefits, hospital and prison visitation, probate and other tangible matters that gay partners desire? I believe we would. Will conservatives, as a whole, ever come to the belief that a same sex marriage is on an equal level, with no distinctions, from a traditional practice our species has participated in since the dawn of civilization? That's not going to happen. Ever. This could be a matter of religious belief, tradition, or simply a personal and primal instinct. All are completely understandable, intellectually and culturally and do no require "hate" to be a motivating factor. This is something that, at least within the activist base of the gay community, is not understood.

Conservative apprehension, and Newtonian backlash, comes when concerns the right has about gay marriage (dismissed by the left as alarmist and unrealistic so very much in tune their rhetoric on so many issues), are proving to be founded. The defense of "how does their marriage affect you" has been answered in that legal acceptance is no longer enough, compulsory participation is now demanded by the state. Add to that the Pandora's Box that acceptance of gay marriage renders opposition to bigamy and incestuous relations intellectually hypocritical, and you see a huge gulf that simply screaming "homophobes" isn't going to fill. And while the progressive's may claim "victory" with legislation and legal decrees, if the ultimate desire of the gay community is true tolerance, on the path to acceptance, these victories will be hollow. The "acceptance" will be obligatory. Gay Americans will forever be forced to wonder what is being said once you leave the room.

There are many areas in which conservatives and the gay community can find common cause. The gay community counts among its population a disproportionate number of small business owners, for example. The concerns and struggles of these entrepreneurs are no different than that of straight business owners. Tax codes and regulatory battles have nothing to do with bedroom activities. As conservatives, our philosophy of a limited government, individual liberty and self-determination is one we believe to be superior for all Americans, the gay community included.

While the gay-left and their progressive allies bloviated in righteous indignation the actions taken recently by the Arizona legislature to strengthen right of refusal laws for business owners, they fail to acknowledge, of course, this was a crisis of their own doing. Prior to these actions, in multiple states, gay couples purposely targeted bakers they knew would refuse to do a custom order (the key term here) wedding cake for a gay marriage. When the baker refused to do this custom order, lawyers were brought in and Pandora's box was opened.

Much like the case where the moron who named his kid "Adolph Hitler" was refused from a baker when a custom birthday cake order was presented, it comes down to a business' decision to take or refuse a contract based on their beliefs. Had the baker refused to, out of hand, sell the couple a cupcake, or standard white sheet cake, this one thing, but to not wish to inscribe the cake and place figurines of two "grooms" he is making a decision based on his moral and religious beliefs. Business can choose when and if to take custom orders for all sorts of reasons. It could be based on beliefs, or that by taking this order, they may risk their reputation with their built in customer base, or simply because they cant handle the workload.

There is an aspect of karma at play here. The gay couples who purposely targeted these bakers did so specifically to pick a fight. Not only did they disregard the owners religious liberty, but the right of a business to pick and choose what customer orders they would take. After all, should we force a bakery owned by a gay man to make a custom ordered cake from someone who wished to inscribe it with anti-gay slogans? Should a public relations firm with a strong stance toward animal rights be forced to take on the marketing campaign of an ivory importing consortium? The left wing tends to base their stance not on a consistent belief set, but rather those involved in the given dispute. This is not only hypocrisy, but incredibly dangerous in a tolerant society.

The gay community has the same responsibility that the general public has, as it relates to domestic tranquility. Its a fight they

[caption id="attachment_461" align="alignright" width="150"]Is the gay community their own worst enemy? Is the gay community their own worst enemy?[/caption]

started, wanted to start simply to attack some baker who happened to disagree with their lifestyle. They cared not whether this would result in the baker losing his business or livelihood, in fact they most likely desired it. Any action born of bitterness and intolerance will result have an equal and opposite reaction. One need only recall the lessons of the Weimar Republic to witness the result of pushing even a tolerant and educated people too far, too fast. When we consider there is an active "war room" in progressive circles, researching Christian-owned establishments and executives political donations, then acting to have them "purged" from active society for simply disagreeing on particular legislation, we must come to the conclusion we have reached a dangerous point in our nations history. Not only does this reveal a very "un-democratic" strain in the body politic, but opens the door for a cultural backlash that I promise will be counter intuitive to the gay communities stated goal of greater understanding and societal acceptance.

Most conservatives would defend the gay baker's right to deny taking an order to inscribe a cake with anti-gay slogans with the same zeal as we will the Christian baker who refuses to do the gay marriage cake. This is what we call consistency, a concept apparently lost on the left, be they gay or straight. If the gay community cannot understand this, nay agree with us, then I do hold out much hope that we can work effectively with one another.


TOPICS: Government; Politics; Religion; Society
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1 posted on 04/08/2014 3:11:27 PM PDT by dignitasnews
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To: dignitasnews
I'd like to separate the walkers from the talkers by asking 2016 candidates if they would support a constitutional amendment that defines marriage as between one man and one woman. Let the battle be joined.
2 posted on 04/08/2014 3:26:24 PM PDT by bramps (Go West America!)
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To: dignitasnews
The Anti-Federalists of 1787-88 cited Montesquieu when they argued that a free republic cannot exist across extensive territories. Only coercive governments headed by an absolute king or dictator were suited for widely dispersed and diverse peoples, for without direct force, the various groups would be constantly at each other’s throats.
3 posted on 04/08/2014 3:29:47 PM PDT by Jacquerie ( Article V.)
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To: bramps

Agreed! Today we found out where Alan Simpson stands.


4 posted on 04/08/2014 3:58:44 PM PDT by dignitasnews
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To: dignitasnews
Look at how the fascists are destroying the lives of those who refuse to bow before their immorality and filth, and then ponder all those Libertarian and some Republicans who spout the "I think we should just focus on fiscal issues and stay away from the social issues."
5 posted on 04/08/2014 4:46:23 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot
Definitely.
Rand Paul: Time for GOP to soften war stance
...by softening its edge on some volatile social issues and altering its image as the party always seemingly "eager to go to war... We do need to expand the party and grow the party and that does mean that we don't always all agree on every issue" ... the party needs to become more welcoming to individuals who disagree with basic Republican doctrine on emotional social issues such as gay marriage... "We're going to have to be a little hands off on some of these issues ... and get people into the party," Paul said.
[Posted on 01/31/2013 5:08:50 PM PST by xzins]

6 posted on 04/08/2014 4:52:09 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SkyPilot

And thats exactly where the establishment gets it wrong (focus on the fiscal). People want their leadership to be about more than just how they pay their taxes (not to diminish this). They want their activism to mean something...something larger.

The liberals get this, To them, the entire “battle” is based on an “us vs them.” They dont get into nuance of the issues, or focus on the “fiscal” aspect. They simplify it to “helping the oppressed.” They may be wicked bastards, but they understand winning the rhetorical battle.


7 posted on 04/08/2014 6:40:05 PM PDT by dignitasnews
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