And even more than that, in the 1970s, NASA scientists discovered that it was a 3D terrain map, encoded in 2 dimensions. Their terrain analyzer was probably a lot like the one Leonardo da Vinci had.
Posted on 04/20/2014 9:56:48 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax
If it was a photograph replica it was on a full size cloth in a protected area...and that part is what I remember, maybe the photo was projected onto the cloth?
I also went to New Orleans to see the Monet exhibit. It was fantastic! I haven’t been to NO since then and we used to go every couple of years. I love that place but after Katrina I just didn’t want to see the change.
I haven’t been there since the Monet exhibit. I didn’t go back after Katrina, as I felt the changes would ruin the memories.
I did two ‘special active duties’ there at CNR in the early 80s, and although I considered it a sinful place, the city atmosphere and architecture were great.
Sorry, Jmacusa, I am fully aware of the camera obscura theories and the Lynn Picknett and Clive Prince theory that Leonardo da Vinci created the Shroud. There is NO possibility that I will be "intrigued" by it because it is an impossibility once you understand the science behind the camera obscura and what is known of the image formation chemistry, physics, and history of the Shroud.
As I told you in my previous post the Shroud is NOT a photograph. It only bears a superficial resemblance to a photograph. Nor is it a painting.
Further reasons:
Both photographs and paintings would require a residue of either a optically alterable fixable chemical or an applied pigment of which the image is composed; the Shroud has neither on its surface nor imbued into its threads or fibers. In fact, there is no residue of any every having been applied down to the limits of electron microscopic examination. . . and it has been examined down to the molecular level. Electron-microscopic spectrometry shows no residue of applied chemicals or pigments. THAT is definitive.
In addition, the image DOES NOT exist under the blood stains, indicating the blood stains pre-existed the formation of the image. Since many of the blood stains require registration with body parts, this precludes a camera obscura method of creation where the blood stains would be logically applied post image creation.
We DO now know of what the image is composed. It exists in the exceedingly thin layer of the soapwort starch in which the Flax was fullered (washed and bleached) in before it was even woven into the Shroud form. We know this layer was done before weaving because of pattern in the cloth that shows the use of hank bleaching. This layer is just 70-100Å (Angstroms) thick on just the surface of the fibers, about the thickness of a soap bubble.
The image exists on the ephemeral surface in a sugary caramel like substance formed by a Maillard browning reaction similar to that which causes bread to brown. We do not know why one portion of the starch made this conversion forming the image, while another portion right next to it did not. Heat, electricity, chemical reaction, and/or age, or a combination of any can cause Maillard reactions in any carbohydrate based substance such as this soapwort coating and as time passes the rest will brown and will eventually match the image, causing the image to fade to nothingness. This is why older natural cloth turn brown with age.
Fire can cause a rapid Maillard reaction. . . this can be seen around the scorch marks on the Shroud from the fire of 1535—but leaves a distinctive signature under Ultra-violet light. Chemical Reaction Maillard reactions will leave residues of the chemicals that cause the reaction. These are not present.
The late Raymond N. Rogers, the Pyrolysis Chemist who proposed the Maillard hypothesis in a peer-reviewed and duplicated study, explains the findings". You should find this REAL science far more intriguing than Lynn Picknett's and Clive Prince's fake scholarship about Camera Obscuras and Leonardo da Vinci creating the Shroud.
By the way, the camera obscure was known in antiquity far predating even da Vinci's era. . . with mention in literature as early as 1000 AD, and there is evidence the Roman's had such rooms for tracing art. However, the ability to concentrate light over long periods of time onto a single area necessary to FIX and burn an image into a photograph, that was a technology that was not mentioned in literature anywhere until the 19th century.
Consider the following Scriptures in light of the Shroud as we see it today.
Early on the first day of the week, while it was still dark, Mary Magdalene went to the tomb and saw that the stone had been removed from the entrance.What did he see in the tomb, and what did he believe? Why wouldn't he have assumed that the Body had been moved?So she came running to Simon Peter and the other disciple, the one Jesus loved, and said, "They have taken the Lord out of the tomb, and we don't know where they have put him!"
So Peter and the other disciple started for the tomb.
Both were running, but the other disciple outran Peter and reached the tomb first.
He bent over and looked in at the strips of linen lying there but did not go in.
Then Simon Peter came along behind him and went straight into the tomb. He saw the strips of linen lying there, as well as the cloth that had been wrapped around Jesus' head. The cloth was still lying in its place, separate from the linen.
Finally the other disciple, who had reached the tomb first, also went inside. He saw and believed.
(They still did not understand from Scripture that Jesus had to rise from the dead.)
But what if the disciple had seen Christ's image on the Shroud?
In Luke, Peter seems to be perplexed by the evidence:
"Then arose Peter, and ran unto the sepulchre; and stooping down, he beheld the linen clothes laid by themselves, and departed, wondering in himself at that which was come to pass"
And even more than that, in the 1970s, NASA scientists discovered that it was a 3D terrain map, encoded in 2 dimensions. Their terrain analyzer was probably a lot like the one Leonardo da Vinci had.
If that was true, the image would look like this:
The above is what a 2D map of a human head looks like for use in a 3D computer graphics program.
The 2D image above is virtually wrapped around the head model. This is also called a "normal map," as the map lays tangent to the terrain surface.
Obviously, this image differs from the image on the Shroud.
What's intriguing about the Shroud is that the 2D "terrain map" on the Shroud seems to indicate that some form of energy, emanating in parallel from the body, "scorched" the image into the cloth that was most likely laid out flat, above the prone body, and parallel to the body.
For a 3D artist like me, it's absolutely fascinating. 3D terrain maps don't "just happen" in nature.
I have an appreciation of art exhibits, paintings, sculpture, art history, and all things created by one’s hands. I see that missing from our education in today’s public schools which is sad.
The same is true of music appreciation for something other than rap and noise. So much lost that cannot be regained.
The manners, culture, and appreciation of all things grand no longer exists in most of the teens who live tech, social media, and whatever!
I don’t believe the Shroud is the face of Christ because as a Catholic I don’t think we’re meant to see the face of Christ until we meet him upon entering into Heaven.However if a miracle occurs that Christ reveals Himself to us in our lifetime,well, that is divinity itself. It’s no secret that in The Middle Ages there was quite a ‘’market’’ if you will , for religious artifacts.Honestly, I don’t know what to make of the Shroud. Carbon 14 tests have put the age of the Shroud to sometime in the 8th. or 9th.century A.D. Who is it that has said that the image on the Shroud is that of Jesus Christ?
Happily my younger sister’s daughter is a gifted performer, early as a child she showed a remarkable singing voice and natural rhythm.(her uncle, me, is a drummer). She did acting in her local theater group, had a cameo on an episode of “The Sopranos’’ and was invited to audition for a reoccurring role that would have been created for her on “Gossip Girls’’ but declined. She was not impressed by the acting ability of the shows actors nor did she like the plot line. Currently she is going to graduate school to learn to work with and teach handicapped adults having left the theater and acting behind.
That’s wonderful in this nation of entitled youth, who have not explored their talents and are instead glued to tv, cell phones, and video games.
Which proves my point, adults must teach their offspring some cultural appreciation and even if they excel at sports, it’s important to value other talents.
America is on the wrong tract in public schools, where arts and music are the first cuts in the budget. Music and math are tied together. Arts show creative solutions, and how to appreciate the finer things in life.
Thanks, I enjoyed hearing about someone who is going somewhere.
Pretty much.
That's a matter of faith for you to wrestle with. . . but the Jesus of the Bible sat and talked, ate, walked, preached, and FACED the people of His time and nothing was written saying He hid His Face from them. If God allowed them to see His Face, why do you think He would not leave something behind to allow us to see it?
The carbon 14 test that actually put the tested age at approximately mid 14th Century were shown to be accurate—on what they tested which was a re woven corner of the Shroud that intermixed original Shroud threads with about 50% SIXTEENTH CENTURY Cotten/Linen thread mixture that when tested return a spurious date of mixed old/newer carbon that averaged 1345 AD. The C14 test has been invalidated because of breaking of the sampling protocol.
Wrong. The Shroud was not a total wrapping around a body. It is 14.3 ft long × 3.7 ft wide. The body was lain on it with the head at the approximate middle. The rest of the Shroud was then laid on top from the head down. It did not totally enclose the body...making the graphics you posted somewhat in accurate.
This has always been my belief on how the image was created. An extremely bright suffusion of light and energy by a source we cannot begin to comprehend.
Nor is there for Adam, Eve, Moses, any of the Prophets, Judges, Saul, Jonathan, David, Joseph, Mary, or any of the twelve Apostles except perhaps for Judas Iscariot because the last name may mean "of the red hair." It was not part of the way oral or written narrative was done in the Middle East. It had to do with "graven image" and the avoidance of same.
I wonder if he’s the man who spoke to the American Chemical Society in 1980 or early 80’s, at American University in DC.
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