KS: Knife Law Refom Significant

Gun Watch ^ | 27 April, 2014 | Dean Weingarten

[marktwain]

A growing trend in state governments is the reform of antiquated knife laws.  The laws were often passed decades ago.  They have been overtaken by Constitutional law.   Clearly, if firearms are protected under the second amendment, so are knives.

Last year, in 2013, Kansas reformed their knife laws, enacting a statewide preemption to prevent local governments from chilling the exercise of second amendment rights for knives.   The law was found to have some ambiguity, so this year, as part of an overall weapons law reform bill, it was made clear that old local laws were repealed, and that it was illegal to attempt to enforce them.  The reform law was signed by Kansas Governor Brownback.   From akti.org:

Sec. 4. K.S.A. 2013 Supp. 12-16,134 is hereby amended to read as follows:
12-16,134. (a) A municipality shall not enact or enforce any
ordinance, resolution, rule regulation or tax relating to the
transportation, possession, carrying, sale, transfer, purchase, gift, devise, licensing, registration or use of a knife or knife making components.

(b) A municipality shall not enact or enforce any ordinance,
resolution or rule regulation relating to the manufacture of a
knife that is more restrictive than any such ordinance, resolution or rule regulation relating to the manufacture of any other commercial
goods.

(c ) Any ordinance, resolution or regulation prohibited by either subsection (a) or (b) that was adopted prior to July 1, 2014, shall be null and void.

(d) No action shall be commenced or prosecuted against any individual for a violation of any ordinance, resolution or regulation that is prohibited by either subsection (a) or (b) and which was adopted prior to July 1, 2014, if such violation occurred on or after July 1, 2013.

While I am not a lawyer, the state of knife law in Kansas appears to be very close to that of constitutional carry.

The only knives that are banned are throwing stars, narrowly defined, and "ballistic knives".

No permit is required to carry any legal knife, and that means items with a point or an edge that are not throwing stars or ballistic knives.


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[marktwain]

Knives are arms protected by the second amendment.

[ClearCase_guy]

I'm ready.

[jsanders2001]

All knife blades will no longer be sharpened from the factory and cannot be possessed if they have a blade length longer than 2 inches unless you are a member of the new Elite class as so desgnated by Preisdential Executive Order 666.

[vigilante2]

Knifes are a tool..

[exnavy]

Now that’s a manly knife.

[Scrambler Bob]

“a blade length longer than 2 inches”

Hmmm —

Why 2 inches???

Perhaps the FAT elite have more than 2 inches of fat and it acts like a govt. bullet protective vest.

Judges 3:21,22

And Ehud put forth his left hand, and took the dagger from his right thigh, and thrust it into his [Eglon the King] belly:

And the haft also went in after the blade; and the fat closed upon the blade, so that he could not draw the dagger out of his belly; and the dirt came out.

Nothing new under the sun.

[Terry L Smith]

In Colonial times, bearing “arms” meant not only rifles and pistols, but:

Tomahawks, pikes, halberds, swords, knives, daggers, bludgeons, maces, spears, and, of course, those lovely thingies that GI’s today don’t really use, bayonets.

[ansel12]

The Tomahawk and fighting knife is still used by GIs, and both have accounted for kills by our military, in recent years.

[Terry L Smith]

ansel12 wrote:
“The Tomahawk and fighting knife is still used by GIs, and both have accounted for kills by our military, in recent years.”

The Ka-Bar, designed for the U.S. Marines, originally for WW2, is still a goodie-but-oldie. However, the newer BK4 series, which is not a bad knife at all, were you to hold it next to knives of the Colonial era, they are not that far removed. NO crossguards, good solid hilts, and a sturdy blade, with a little ‘character’ thrown in.

(Me? I’m an F-S knife believer, with the Case V-42 a close second. They don’t jam; need neither silencers nor speedloaders; and ‘work’ in all weather environments.)

There are reports from SpecFor Viet vets of a certain tomahawk design, that was employed, then. Now? To me, any ‘hawk’ deserves the same respect, as a loaded firearm.

[ansel12]

There are examples of knife and tomahawk kills in Iraq and the tomahawk has some popularity, and many GI’s buy personal fighting knives.

Here is a discussion on Tomahawks http://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=6&f=4&t=259015

Here is an ABC article excerpt.
April 15, 2003 —

U.S. forces are using two types of tomahawks in Iraq: one, a high-tech cruise missile — the other, a bit more like the weapon Mel Gibson used in the movie The Patriot.

Members of Air Force security groups, Army Rangers and special forces are some of the U.S. troops who have chosen to add tomahawks to their basic gear.

So why would a member of today’s armed services want a relic of the American frontier? According to one modern tomahawk manufacturer, the reasons soldiers carried them in the Revolutionary War are still valid today — and it all comes down to science.

“The physics behind it make it an appropriate choice for any kind of battlefield conditions,” said Ryan Johnson, owner of RMJ Forge.
(sniP)
Does This Relic From the Past Have a Future?

Currently, service members are buying tomahawks individually or, in some cases, units are using operational funds to buy them for their group. But manufacturers would not be displeased if their products were adopted more widely in the armed services.

“This is not a standard-issue item per se — [but] are we moving that direction? Yes indeed, in my view we are,” said ATC’s Prisco. “The tomahawk’s got a lot of versatility — soldiers don’t have to carry seven or eight pieces of larger kit. They can carry a tomahawk and do the same thing.”

[Terry L Smith]

Thank you, ansel12!!