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The Fine Print Everyone is Missing on the New USDA Ballistic Vests Order....
Dutchman6 ^ | 5/17/14 | Sipsey Street Irregulars

Posted on 05/17/2014 11:56:36 PM PDT by Nachum

A faithful reader forwards this link under the header, "The Fine Print Everyone is Missing on the new USDA Ballistic Vests Order...." with this quote from the order and a comment:

Please note:

"Synopsis:

Added: May 07, 2014 2:24 pm

The U.S. Department of Agriculture, Office of Inspector General, located in Washington, DC and Regional Offices, pursuant to the authority of FAR Part 13, has a requirement for the commerical acquisition of ballist vests, compliant with NIJ 0101.06 for Level IIIA Ballistic Resistance of body armor. Body armor is gender specific, lightweight, trauma plate/pad (hard or soft), concealable carrier, tactical vest, undergarment (white), identification patches, accessories (6 pouches), body armor carry bag, and professional measurements."

My 2 cents:

The 6 pouch and tactical vest requirement description on this USDA quote confirm that these are ASSAULT vests. They're what troops wear in an attack evolution. This is a full military-styled kit, not designed for typical defensive security work.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government
KEYWORDS: ballistic; cnsf; cw2; order; policestate; tyranny; usda; vests
This is a full military-styled kit, not designed for typical defensive security work
1 posted on 05/17/2014 11:56:36 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

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2 posted on 05/17/2014 11:57:32 PM PDT by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: All

What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2312894/posts


3 posted on 05/18/2014 12:10:07 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: Nachum

We’re waiting.


4 posted on 05/18/2014 12:20:58 AM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: TigersEye

I have an question I hope someone can answer, will the current military or in general the body armor being ordered by the Feds stop a .30 cal round or a .44 mag? If not what will they stop?


5 posted on 05/18/2014 1:06:04 AM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: Foundahardheadedwoman

Try here: http://www.bulletproofme.com/Ballistic_Protection_Levels.shtml

Basically any rifle round will go through IIIA - it’s “soft” armor. If they have the hard plate inserts (III or IV) then shot placement is a little more important.


6 posted on 05/18/2014 1:42:13 AM PDT by Cacique500
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

http://www.flamethrowerplans.com/

Legal in 40 states. You can probably guess which ones aren’t.


7 posted on 05/18/2014 1:57:47 AM PDT by Up Yours Marxists
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To: Up Yours Marxists
A tool like that could be placed at particular points around one's property and operated remotely.

... a warm welcome for uninvited guests.

8 posted on 05/18/2014 3:41:02 AM PDT by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: Nachum

Will the vests fit on cows?


9 posted on 05/18/2014 4:21:33 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Up Yours Marxists
Should I order the green ( environmentally safe) or the pink one ( just for the toy look ) ?


10 posted on 05/18/2014 4:34:35 AM PDT by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: Nachum

Sounds like the USDA is going to war with somebody.

Link to the FedBizOps site for the USDA solicitation for Ballistic Vests - https://www.fbo.gov/?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=9dfebeda308f15074b832bcf24bfcb92&tab=core&_cview=0

USDA solicitation for FLIR T-70 Thermal Scopes -
https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=4a0c8085f238dba5bcd0297ec8b83527&tab=core&_cview=0

USDA solicitation for .40 cal submachineguns - https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=9fc3a01217d03b0354e1e18b69aa7bad&tab=core&_cview=0


11 posted on 05/18/2014 5:12:47 AM PDT by Perseverando (Obamanation: It's ALL about PEOPLE CONTROL!)
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To: Nachum

I guess the whole “mad cow” thing has gotten out of hand huh?


12 posted on 05/18/2014 5:15:20 AM PDT by rfreedom4u (Your feelings don't trump my free speech!)
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To: Nachum

BookMark


13 posted on 05/18/2014 5:16:19 AM PDT by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." Dorothy Bernard)
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To: Perseverando; Nachum; Squantos; bang_list

Good catch, especially on the thermal scopes.

A quick search reveals that the FLIR T-70 Thermal is a state of the art thermal scope and target acquisition system ( mfr term ).

There is an e-Bay listing advertising at $15,000 and in stock.

One wonders why the Agriculture Department has need for what is basically an assassin’s tool.


14 posted on 05/18/2014 5:35:48 AM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: Nachum

Probably part of the Obama Benghazi agreement. They’re just trying to hide it.


15 posted on 05/18/2014 5:42:49 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Perseverando
Sounds like the USDA is going to war with somebody.

Marijuana growers.

"For the last three summers, large marijuana operations have been discovered in the Chequamegon-Nicolet National Forest in northern Wisconsin. In each of those busts, law enforcement made numerous arrests, almost all natives of Mexico here illegally. Confiscated weapons included handguns, AK-47s and a .308-caliber rifle with ammunition magazines taped together." Forest Service to WI Hunters: Beware of Armed Marijuana Growers

16 posted on 05/18/2014 6:04:54 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

In Colorado the growers rent an empty warehouse.


17 posted on 05/18/2014 6:20:33 AM PDT by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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To: Nachum

Just shoot them in the knee or the throat. Body armor doesn’t work there.


18 posted on 05/18/2014 7:12:47 AM PDT by macglencoe (You see what the left hand is doing, but you should be watching the right hand.)
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bfl


19 posted on 05/18/2014 7:29:06 AM PDT by Faith65 (Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior!)
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To: Foundahardheadedwoman
will the current military or in general the body armor being ordered by the Feds stop a .30 cal round

".30 cal" could be anything from a 30-30 to a .300 Win Mag. There is a world of difference in muzzle energy between the two. Type of bullet and range are also major factors.

We had a guy in our company hit in the back of his flak jacket with an NVA sniper's .30 cal round while he was on Hill 55 in Vietnam. The round hit just above the ceramic plate and pierced most of the ballistic nylon layers. The bullet remained embedded in the ballistic nylon with just the very tip protruding. The tip of the bullet just barely broke his skin, but left a really cool looking purple bruise. I don't remember if he got a "Heart" from this.

The sniper was probably 200-300 meters out and may have been one of the group after Carlo Hathcock, as this occurred about the time Carlos was based on Hill 55.

20 posted on 05/18/2014 7:32:09 AM PDT by BwanaNdege ( "For those who have fought for it, Life bears a savor the protected will never know")
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To: Nachum

Well, of Course, the US Department of Agriculture SWAT teams will need protective body armor. DUH!


21 posted on 05/18/2014 8:17:18 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Its my freedom. YES. I will be keeping it.)
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To: macglencoe

Yep. Kneecapping has the additional benefit of taking not one but at least 2 folks out of the arena as somebody has to carry them out of the fray.


22 posted on 05/18/2014 8:43:48 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Perseverando

I read that they also ordered 30-round magazines.


23 posted on 05/18/2014 9:40:08 AM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: Nachum

A Threat Level IIA vest is not proof against rifle rounds — even with a trauma plate. Or, when in doubt, do head shots and ignore their vests. Sorry USDA thugs, you’re not bulletproof.


24 posted on 05/18/2014 10:50:33 AM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: Up Yours Marxists

If you’re going to use a flamethrower, why should whether the “legality” matter or not? A crispy critter USDA thug is still a crispy critter whether it’s in one of the “legal” 40 states or not.


25 posted on 05/18/2014 10:54:27 AM PDT by MasterGunner01
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bkmk


26 posted on 05/18/2014 1:15:47 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: BwanaNdege

.30-06 or .308, 7.62x54R, lost my .300 win mag(Browning Safari) in tragic fire. Just curious. Any info appreciated. All info strictly confidential except for the prying eyes of the perverted peeping toms at the NSA.


27 posted on 05/18/2014 1:46:46 PM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: Jack Hammer

‘Will the vests fit on cows?’

Better question, will they fit on dogs?


28 posted on 05/18/2014 1:49:05 PM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: Oatka

You heard it at FR first:

U.S. Department of Agriculture: Solicitation for submachine guns, .40 Cal. S&W, - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3155648/posts


29 posted on 05/18/2014 5:19:03 PM PDT by Perseverando (Obamanation: It's ALL about PEOPLE CONTROL!)
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