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Posted on 05/17/2014 11:56:36 PM PDT by Nachum
A faithful reader forwards this link under the header, "The Fine Print Everyone is Missing on the new USDA Ballistic Vests Order...." with this quote from the order and a comment:
Added: May 07, 2014 2:24 pm
The U.S. Department of Agriculture, Office of Inspector General, located in Washington, DC and Regional Offices, pursuant to the authority of FAR Part 13, has a requirement for the commerical acquisition of ballist vests, compliant with NIJ 0101.06 for Level IIIA Ballistic Resistance of body armor. Body armor is gender specific, lightweight, trauma plate/pad (hard or soft), concealable carrier, tactical vest, undergarment (white), identification patches, accessories (6 pouches), body armor carry bag, and professional measurements."
My 2 cents:
The 6 pouch and tactical vest requirement description on this USDA quote confirm that these are ASSAULT vests. They're what troops wear in an attack evolution. This is a full military-styled kit, not designed for typical defensive security work.
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What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
I have an question I hope someone can answer, will the current military or in general the body armor being ordered by the Feds stop a .30 cal round or a .44 mag? If not what will they stop?
Basically any rifle round will go through IIIA - it’s “soft” armor. If they have the hard plate inserts (III or IV) then shot placement is a little more important.
Legal in 40 states. You can probably guess which ones aren’t.
... a warm welcome for uninvited guests.
Will the vests fit on cows?
Sounds like the USDA is going to war with somebody.
Link to the FedBizOps site for the USDA solicitation for Ballistic Vests - https://www.fbo.gov/?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=9dfebeda308f15074b832bcf24bfcb92&tab=core&_cview=0
USDA solicitation for FLIR T-70 Thermal Scopes -
USDA solicitation for .40 cal submachineguns - https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=9fc3a01217d03b0354e1e18b69aa7bad&tab=core&_cview=0
I guess the whole “mad cow” thing has gotten out of hand huh?
Good catch, especially on the thermal scopes.
A quick search reveals that the FLIR T-70 Thermal is a state of the art thermal scope and target acquisition system ( mfr term ).
There is an e-Bay listing advertising at $15,000 and in stock.
One wonders why the Agriculture Department has need for what is basically an assassin’s tool.
Probably part of the Obama Benghazi agreement. They’re just trying to hide it.
"For the last three summers, large marijuana operations have been discovered in the Chequamegon-Nicolet National Forest in northern Wisconsin. In each of those busts, law enforcement made numerous arrests, almost all natives of Mexico here illegally. Confiscated weapons included handguns, AK-47s and a .308-caliber rifle with ammunition magazines taped together." Forest Service to WI Hunters: Beware of Armed Marijuana Growers
In Colorado the growers rent an empty warehouse.
Just shoot them in the knee or the throat. Body armor doesn’t work there.
".30 cal" could be anything from a 30-30 to a .300 Win Mag. There is a world of difference in muzzle energy between the two. Type of bullet and range are also major factors.
We had a guy in our company hit in the back of his flak jacket with an NVA sniper's .30 cal round while he was on Hill 55 in Vietnam. The round hit just above the ceramic plate and pierced most of the ballistic nylon layers. The bullet remained embedded in the ballistic nylon with just the very tip protruding. The tip of the bullet just barely broke his skin, but left a really cool looking purple bruise. I don't remember if he got a "Heart" from this.
The sniper was probably 200-300 meters out and may have been one of the group after Carlo Hathcock, as this occurred about the time Carlos was based on Hill 55.
Well, of Course, the US Department of Agriculture SWAT teams will need protective body armor. DUH!
Yep. Kneecapping has the additional benefit of taking not one but at least 2 folks out of the arena as somebody has to carry them out of the fray.
I read that they also ordered 30-round magazines.
A Threat Level IIA vest is not proof against rifle rounds — even with a trauma plate. Or, when in doubt, do head shots and ignore their vests. Sorry USDA thugs, you’re not bulletproof.
If you’re going to use a flamethrower, why should whether the “legality” matter or not? A crispy critter USDA thug is still a crispy critter whether it’s in one of the “legal” 40 states or not.
.30-06 or .308, 7.62x54R, lost my .300 win mag(Browning Safari) in tragic fire. Just curious. Any info appreciated. All info strictly confidential except for the prying eyes of the perverted peeping toms at the NSA.
‘Will the vests fit on cows?’
Better question, will they fit on dogs?
You heard it at FR first:
U.S. Department of Agriculture: Solicitation for submachine guns, .40 Cal. S&W, - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3155648/posts
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