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The Jewish Question
Israpundit ^ | April 17, 2014 | Alex Markovsky

Posted on 05/20/2014 12:44:30 PM PDT by Pharmboy

Winston Churchill called Jews, “..the most formidable and the most remarkable race which has ever appeared in the world.” We are remarkable all right. When you have a smart Jew he predominates with his intellectual prowess over the rest of the human race, but when you have a dumb Jew, he is an insult to human intelligence.

As a Jew, I was perplexed which of those remarkable Jewish-Americans voted for Obama in 2008; to me, it was completely obvious that the alternative choices for president in 2008 were clear and unambiguous. On the Republican side was a war hero, a strong supporter of Israel, an experienced politician with a strong track record and a commitment to public service. On the other side, for the Democrats, was a young man of Muslim background, an inexperienced politician with no track record of accomplishment whose personal files were mysteriously sealed. Moreover, this man had dubious connections with anti-Semites and America-haters.

I was even more baffled in 2012. This time, the choice was between Obama and Romney, a friend of Benjamin Netanyahu, supporter of Israel, and a man with impeccable business and civil service credentials. What could Obama do for Jews that Romney couldn’t or wouldn’t do? What was it in the Democratic Party platform that was so appealing to the Jews? What was I missing? After the shocking outcome of each election, I asked “Why?” many times, of many Jews.

The typical answer I received was “I did not (???) vote for him, but I am not going to vote for him this time.” You ask a Jewish question, you get a Jewish answer. But they lied, and did vote for him again in 2012. As prominent Zionist Zev Jabotinsky once said, “Logic is an art of the Greeks; a Jew has his own logic. Jewish logic is the logic of catastrophe. Jews do not detect danger; they face it when it comes.” A Jew will ignore the weather forecast and forego buying an umbrella. He will get wet and contract pneumonia and then tell you that, as he has already survived pneumonia, the umbrella can wait. The old saw, “There are two types of Jews—those who believe that Judaism is about social justice and those who know Hebrew,” contains more than a kernel of truth. By and large, orthodox Jews voted for McCain in 2008 and for Romney in 2012.

Social justice, in terms of helping the sick and the poor, is deeply embedded in Judaism; for Jews it is a case of irrational obsession, and many of them believe that the only way to achieve a just society is through leftist policies. The problem is that their religion is not Judaism; it is almost every other possible ism (with the exceptions of conservatism and fascism), such as liberalism, socialism, feminism, environmentalism, and Marxism.

Speaking of which, the 1917 Bolshevik revolution in Russia that brought so much suffering to the people of Russia, including Jews, was in fact a Jewish revolution. Based upon socialist theories developed by a Jewish philosopher and economist, Karl Marx, the principal inspiration, organization, and driving power of the revolution came from Jewish leaders. Most of them changed their Jewish names to Russian ones to conceal their Jewishness, such as Trotsky (Bronstein), Zinoviev (Apelbaum), Kamenev (Rosenfeldt), Sverdlov (Rubenstine), Larine, Uritsky, Steclov (Nakhamkes), all of whom later assumed major positions in Lenin’s government. In effect, Jews founded and shaped the Soviet state. Yet these same Jewish Bolsheviks quickly became the first victims of the Soviet state. Over the next twenty years, by 1937, practically all of them had become targets of Stalin’s repressions and were executed or murdered abroad, like Leon Trotsky. Still, they would not abandon their devotion to socialism.

In the late 1920s, German Jews voted for Hitler’s National Socialist Party, only to become victims of the Holocaust a decade later. They chose to ignore Hitler’s anti-Semitic rhetoric, believing that it was merely for domestic consumption. They doubted that Hitler could be bad, much less evil. After all, he was a socialist!

Jews passionately supported and continue to admire FDR, who denied entry for Jews seeking asylum from Nazi extermination just before World War II. The most telling is the tragedy of the German ocean liner MS St. Louis, whose captain, Gustav Schroder, tried to save 937 German Jewish refugees after they were denied entry to Cuba, by bringing his ship to Miami only to learn that the U.S. refused his Jewish passengers a safe harbor. Finally the Jews were accepted by various European countries and eventually ended up in Auschwitz and Sóbibor, where half of them perished. By refusing to allow Jews to enter the United States Roosevelt offered Hitler a propaganda coup: justification of the persecution of Jews. The Nazis could say that they were not alone in their hatred of Jews; the rest of the world, and especially the United States, did not want them either. Nevertheless, Jews voted for FDR and still love him—after all, the New Deal was a giant step toward socialism.

The Jewish love affair with socialism that began in Russia continued in Germany and endures in today’s America. An examination of the current socialist Obama administration reveals a similar Jewish pattern. Living in ghettos for two millennia, the Jewish people have been struggling to reconcile their tragic history with the logic of contemporary reality. They have a difficult time coming to terms with the freedom and equal opportunities that America offers. They continue to fight for social justice, refusing to recognize that, as far as Jews are concerned, what they have accomplished in this country goes well beyond their wildest expectations. Sons and daughters of the first immigrants, who dug trenches and washed dishes in New York, became doctors, lawyers, senators, bankers, industrialists, and influential politicians.

Unfortunately, the descendants of the first immigrants inherited the genetic memories of their ghetto ancestors. They appear to have nurtured and maintained a sense of guilt, even in the face of their success; they feel guilty for achieving a standard of living as good as or better than any other ethnic group in this country. They are constantly seeking forgiveness for their survival. They are prisoners of insecurity. The guilt associated with their own success has led them to take on, and support, the cause of every underdog and liberal movement in sight, no matter how undeserving, no matter how irrational or against their own interests or even survival. As Jewish sociologist Milton Himmelfarb observed, “Jews earn like Episcopalians and vote like Puerto Ricans.” Over the last century, no social macrocosm in America has more consistently voted against their own interests.

Socialism, which began with the fanaticism of the grandparents, has been transformed into fear in the parents and subsequently into habits in the children and grandchildren; it is embedded deeply in the Jewish DNA.

The Jewish unequivocal commitment to the Democratic Party makes them irrelevant during the elections. Republicans do not care about Jewish interests because Jews do not vote for them regardless of whether or not Republicans address their concerns. Democrats take the Jewish vote for granted and essentially do not care about Jewish votes because the Jews will vote for them regardless of their position on Jewish issues. Even among the Jews who emigrated from the Soviet Union there are many supporters of Obama and his socialist policies. That confirms the Russian saying, “You can take a Jew out of socialism but you cannot take socialism out of a Jew.”

Despite the obvious, Jews continue to disregard the teachings of Karl Marx, their fellow member of the tribe, that socialism is about redistribution of wealth. Redistribution means taking from one group of citizens and giving it to others. Bolsheviks took from the bourgeoisie; Nazis took from the Jews. The contemporary American Neo-Bolsheviks aim at taking from the rich, even though there are many Jews among them.

Immediately before the 2012 election, I was in a Las Vegas restaurant with some of my Jewish friends, talking politics over dinner. At an adjacent table was another Jewish gathering. One of them turned around and asked one of my friends if he really was going to vote for Romney. My friend replied that he would vote for a cock roach if it ran against Obama. I thought that perhaps this expression, which I personally enjoyed, reflected a glimmer of hope that the Jews might emerge from their intellectual ghetto and commence a wave of voting based on logic, not habit. In the end, however, habit proved to be stronger than logic and, once again, emotional attachments trumped Jewish interests. In retrospect, I was picking up the dinner tab, which may have tilted the table in my philosophical direction. How else can I explain it.


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To: cynwoody

Until it is changed, I have no reason to think it isn’t accurate.


101 posted on 05/21/2014 8:30:11 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: justiceseeker93
In fact, the (communist) regime was marked by anti-Semitism from its onset.

Although a majority of the posts in the earliest Soviet Nomenklatura may have certainly been held by Jews, the above statement is very accurate.

In fact, whenever there was a particularly dirty job to be done (e.g., The Liquidation of the Kulaks, The starvation and deportations of the Ukraine, etc. etc., the top Soviets, many of them Jewish, made damn sure those directly responsible for carrying out particularly heinous "field operations" were identifiable Jews, too.

Reason? They planned it that way to feed off the endemic Russian anti-semitism of long standing, as in the pogroms of the Czars, to encourage the peasants to somehow shift the blame for their troubles "on the Jews" and not on the Party!

In some ideological way, this was part of the Soviet anti-religion campaign, conducted by Jews in the Soviet hierarchy who chose ideology over their ancestral faith, which they consciouslky thought to destroy.

Post WWII, when the Soviets were subjugating Eastern Europe, they used the same tactics.

Warning: Some Jewish scholars documented this phenomenon many years ago. However, it is not wise to share the info in American liberal Jewish circles, or you'll never eat lunch in this town again!.

102 posted on 05/21/2014 11:17:28 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Vote for a gay African Marxist for POTUS? Sure. What could go wrong?)
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To: Lurking Libertarian; All
My parents told me that American Jews of their generation considered Republicans antisemitic because the Democrats in the 1930s tried to lift immigration quotas to allow Jews from Europe to enter America and the Republicans blocked them.

Another of those pro-'Rat, pro-Roosevelt myths that seem to get passed down from generation to generation in too many Jewish families!

Fact is that Democrats had such wide majorities in Congress following the Roosevelt landslide in 1932 and continuing through the remainder of the 1930s (although Republicans did make significant gains in the 1938 mid term elections) that Republicans couldn't block anything, even if they tried. The so-called "isolationist" movement, which was associated with restricting immigration, was bipartisan.

103 posted on 05/21/2014 11:40:10 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

I was careful to add that I was repeating what I was told, and hadn’t verified it. You may be quite right.


104 posted on 05/21/2014 11:58:43 AM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: ansel12
Why permanent? Nothing was written in stone by that 1936 election, though it might seem that way to you now. History didn't have to unroll as it did. In the 40s African-Americans were equally divided in identifying with the two parties, though they gave more votes to FDR and his Democrat successors. Still, Eisenhower and Nixon pulled in over a third of Black voters, so there was room for events to develop differently than they did.

I didn't claim to give a reason why Jews vote Democrat. That would entail a very long discussion. My point was just that the writer somehow assumed that Jews would be so turned off by Obama that they'd vote against him. But people who have been voting for Democrats for decades, people who voted for Mondale, Dukakis, Kerry and other Democrats down through the years aren't going to look at Obama as the author does. Why is that somehow controversial? And do we have to add Blacks and Jews to Catholics and Mormons on your list?

105 posted on 05/21/2014 1:22:16 PM PDT by x
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To: x
The Jewish vote is the way it is and has been for far longer than a 100 years, because they are liberals.

You can’t ignore the facts about blacks for instance, until 1932, they always voted republican, in 1936 they made an instant, and permanent switch.

In 1932 the black vote being republican, gave the democrats the unsurprising 23%, and in 1936, they made the instant and permanent switch, suddenly going 71% democrat, and staying there.

Yep, they sure did give more votes to the democrats, that is what I said, the fact that it took a few years for party registration to better reflect that instant switch of parties, is meaningless.

Up to 1932, blacks always voted republican, in 1932 FDR got 23% of the black vote, and then the instant switch was made in 1936.
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106 posted on 05/21/2014 1:37:47 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: ansel12
Ha! Ha!

Look at the next chart on the same site:

Notice party identification in the 1940s. It took some time for that to change.

The Jewish vote is the way it is and has been for far longer than a 100 years, because they are liberals.

A little less than 100 years. Harding(1920) scored a plurality of the Jewish vote. Hughes (1916) didn't do so bad either. What we call the "Jewish vote" is made up mostly of Jews whose families came from Eastern Europe. The older German Jewish population leaned Republican in the days of TR and Taft, and Sephardic (Middle Eastern) Jews also come from a different culture with different values.

That's life in these United States, though. Different people have different values. It takes time for them to come to understand things in the same way -- if they ever do. But somehow or other the country has managed to survive and prosper.

107 posted on 05/21/2014 2:35:27 PM PDT by x
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To: x
Good Lord man, I mentioned how meaningless taking a few years to adjust party registration was, you post cling to it like a life raft, as though it changes the black vote.

Even Reagan took more than a decade to get around to switching his party registration.

What counts, is the FACTS of the black vote.

Then you keep trying to create a fake Jewish vote, it has never gone republican, at least not since we started getting Jews here in any numbers, in 1880, and we don't have presidential voting records for them before that.

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108 posted on 05/21/2014 3:18:09 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: Pharmboy

It was ok but it didn’t bring any new revelations to the table. Just frustrations we already knew. Here is my opinion. Jewish people throughout history and across the globe have been singled out and persecuted more than any other people. Singled out being the operative word. There is a wish to be treated like everyone else. To be part of society without having to give up their Jewishness. They feel that they will be vulnerable to persecutions in a democracy that places freedom over conformity such as we cons struggle for. With a government that emphasizes conformity, everyone is treated exactly alike on all levels. If everyone is just a number, you dont care if they are jewish. Everyone jewish or not gets their daily allotted government handout. Nobody can turn to the jews and say “you rigged the system” because everyone is tied to the system getting the exact same things. In short, jews want to be treated like everyone else even if that means we get a government that forces us to all to be treated equal. IE universal healthcare, housing, education, everything.


109 posted on 05/21/2014 5:44:03 PM PDT by Delacon ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." H. L. Mencken)
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To: sf4dubya

I dont think anyone was claiming that the jews lost the election for us but it is confounding why they didn’t vote more often for Romney.


110 posted on 05/21/2014 5:55:24 PM PDT by Delacon ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." H. L. Mencken)
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To: sf4dubya

This is a conservative political site, this is about voting and politics not “different spiritual paths”, take your religious and racial bigotry elsewhere.


114 posted on 05/23/2014 2:15:27 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: sf4dubya

I haven’t seen anyone blaming Jews for GOP losses, what are the quotes and which posts?

Conservatives do talk about who makes up the left, and how those groups vote, for instance the Jewish vote, the black vote, the Hispanic vote, and many other categories, it is a fundamental part of politics and political discussions.

If you are a conservative, why would you want to conceal such facts and voting data, how can we run campaigns if we don’t know such things?

Why are you so obsessed only with race and “different spiritual paths” instead of politics?


116 posted on 05/23/2014 3:10:30 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: sf4dubya

Everyone involved in politics, for instance this political forum that is based on politics and political activism, discusses and has to discuss the voting of groups and categories, from veterans to while males, to single women to Jews and Evangelicals, and on and on.

You do realize that we are discussing voting and politics don’t you?

Do you get hysterical like this when we discuss the Evangelical vote?


118 posted on 05/25/2014 8:46:34 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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