Skip to comments.No, college isnít the answer. Reparations are.
Posted on 05/30/2014 2:38:36 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
In case youve been living under a rock, Ta-Nehisi Coates has written a thing at The Atlantic making the case for reparations.
For some, reparations to African Americans for enslavement and state-sanctioned apartheid (more benignly known as Jim Crow) is a shocking case to make. I am a sociologist whose training has been, in part, with economists like Sandy Darity at Duke University and Darrick Hamilton at The New School. For Darity, Hamilton, and many other serious scholars of race, history, and inequality, the matter of reparations is anything but novel or shocking. Neither is it hyperbolic. There are real programs, with feasibility studies and implementation suggestions, and they move far beyond Coates call for a spiritual reckoning of the body politic. If you have never heard of them, that is likely by design. Few powerful persons or institutions have ever been willing to seriously put a reparations program before the American people.
But I wager that you have heard a lot about how education and opportunity can be, through hard work and moral fortitude, the path to greater equality for African Americans. In many ways, when the formerly enslaved asked first for a national program to redress the forced, free labor that made the United States the nation we know it to be, they were given schooling instead of redress; opportunity instead of compensation. It is an attitude that persists in our policy and our cultural lexicon. When the demand is for justice, we are most likely to respond with an appeal, instead, to fairness. And in no institution is that more clearly evident than education. Theres just one problem: Its not good enough.....
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Tressie McMillan Cottom is a PhD candidate in the Sociology Department at Emory University in Atlanta, GA.
As a stratification scholar, Tressie considers what inequality means both experientially and empirically when corporations are people, supranational corporations like Facebook and Twitter shape the public square, and education is increasingly privatized. Her research primarily mines organizational arrangements and structural processes to better understand inequality across rapidly changing social domains. Her current work examines for-profit college credentials and inequality. She also has a developing research agenda that examines the political economy of emerging new media organizations.
Tressie lectures and publishes widely. She has been invited to speak on issues of education, race, gender, social movements and inequality at MIT, the Carter G. Woodson Institute at the University of Virginia, Duke, UGA, GSU, UC-Irvine as well as national and international public policy agencies in Canada, New Zealand and across the U.S. Her public writing has appeared in Inside Higher Education, The Chronicle of Higher Education, Slate, Dissent Magazine, and The New York Times. Additionally, she has appeared on NPR and Dan Rather Reports. Her academic work has appeared in Contexts, WestJEM (forthcoming), and a textbook from Oxford University Press. Three papers are currently under review: an organizational analysis of admissions at for-profit colleges; an intersectional analysis of college choice among working class black and white women enrolled in for-profit colleges; and, the political economy of social media in identity movements.
In 2014, she was selected as a PhD Intern at the Microsoft Social Media Collective research labs in Cambridge, MA. That research project will examine how students use informal online spaces to form status identities and groups. The paper will be submitted for review. She is also a former research fellow at the Center for Poverty Research at UC-Davis. As a fellow, she wrote a public policy brief (forthcoming) that examines the link between 1996 changes that purported to end welfare as we know it and the rise in for-profit workforce credentials among poor women. She is honored to join the Barnard Center for Research on Women as an organizing consultant for their 40th anniversary Scholar & Feminist conference on gender and education.
With Sandy Darity of Duke University, she is the lead editor of Profit U: The Rise of For-Profit Higher Education, forthcoming from AERA books. A second book, a solo-authored manuscript on inequality and for-profit higher education, is under contract with The New Press. So far, her editors have not decided to kick her out of the fold.
Tressie considers teaching a foundational research activity. She teaches introductory sociology courses and has developed seminars in contemporary stratification (post-Great Recession), critical university studies, and technology and inequality. Her students seem to enjoy her pedagogical enthusiasm. To be fair, students do occasionally complain that she threatens to incorporate interpretative dance into lectures. Tressie assumes they doth protest too much.
She can be found at www.tressiemc.com and @tressiemcphd.
Ta-Nehisi Coates has written a thing at The Atlantic making the case for reparations.Not even the liberals can come up with a name for the thing in question.
I propose that every living person held as a slave be paid fair wages by every living slaveowner.
Barring that being good enough, if you don't like it here, how about a one time one way ticket to the third world hellhole of their choice--US citizenship/passport revoked when you get there.
Being a negro is a job description thing!
Unfortunately academia is filled with Tressie Cottoms. Truly intellectual challenges and pursuits are more likely to be found elsewhere.
In the interest of making things right, we should send all Blacks back to Africa. There they can live out their Utopian dreams.
A “stratification scholar”? /facepalm
Since I had a relative (fathers uncle) that fought to “free the slaves” and spent time in the infamous Andersonville confederate prison, I am the one that has reparations owed to me. My family shed blood during the civil war. No one ever owned a slave but shed blood for them.....those that say reparations are the greediest ones and stupid to boot.
The stupidity and self-righteous is STRONG in this one!
That is NOT a good combination; look what it has done to our Presidency!
You want reparations? Come get it. These slime bags seem to think they can just push and push and push, and nothing is going to happen. Sooner or later, it might erupt into a real shooting war. I hope not, but it can't go on like this indefinitely.
I’d give $1,000 if those calling for reparations promised to:
3-Leave me and my family alone.
4-Stop talking about reparations
5-Stop talking about racism
But since none of that will happen, I’ll keep my money.
Ok...I’m convinced......I’d give them a dollar...
Now go away....
OK, let me try to get this straight. Who exactly is gonna have to pay these reparations? I am a white boy. What if my ancestors came to the United States after the civil war? What if my ancestors came here in the 1700’s but never owned any slaves? What if I am a “white” boy but have some black blood from a previous 300 year old affair? Are all non-black U.S. residents gonna have to pay reparations? Is this a one time payment by every white man over the age of 18 or will my children’s children also have a certain amount they will have to pay. Who will determine the amount of the reparation? Will the ancestors of black slave owners have to pay reparations? Do all blacks get the same amount of reparation pay? I really need to know so I can start my reparation withholding from my paycheck? It will be a cold day in hell before this happens!
The people at the Washington Post who are looking for race baiting journalists to publish, would do well to be picking Cotton.
I’ll pay reparations as soon as I receive the check from Putin for my family being Serfs to the Russians until emancipation in 1862. I expect a bigger check because our enslavement started centuries earlier....
We wanna handout! We wanna handout!
gibsmedat, gibsmedat, oh gibsmedat
“In case youve been living under a rock, Ta-Nehisi Coates has written a thing at The Atlantic making the case for reparations.”
Haha...99.9% of this country must live below ground. No one ever heard of ta dash nehishit.
This dumbed down culture is being brought down by glorifying stupid people.
PhD my ass.
Reparations? What do you call the trillions handed out in welfare and other programs?
I don’t know the answer, but stop naming your kids “Ta-Nehisi”, stop stealing, stop doing drugs, stop living off of government handouts, and go get a job!....might be a start.
From her article: During difficult economic cycles, black workers and students should benefit from the flexibility of moving in and out of college as their life circumstances allow. Without that flexibility, every educational moment becomes a zero sum decision: If I leave school this semester to take that job or care for a family member, I probably will never be able to return.
Is there a law that prevents black students from going back to school once they leave for some reason or another? Are they not allowed to take a college course while working? Having to make those kinds of decisions certainly is nothing unique to blacks.
When you start talking about poverty and race, inevitably most folks fall back on the usual tropes: blacks should care more about school, go to college, increase their graduation rates, choose the right majors.
That is absolutely true. And for the paragraphs following, where she describes unemployment rates that are higher for blacks than whites who are equally educated--maybe the problem is the attitude, not the education? I can't imagine that a job seeker showing up to an interview with attitudes of victimhood, resentment, and racism is going to be the number one choice of employers.
At every level of schooling, classrooms, schools, and districts reward wealth and privilege.
No, they reward the attitudes that lead to wealth and privilege. Often, you find those attitudes in children of well-to-do families, because that was how they were raised--but not always. Even if you come from a poor family, the right attitude will help you succeed.
Reparations can do what education cannot do.
No. Giving reparations is like giving a jackpot, in some ways. Those receiving reparations will almost certainly squander the money, and end up in exactly the same situation they were in before the reparations. One could say that the constant hand-outs of welfare are a form of reparation--have they helped blacks (or anyone else) succeed? No--they have resulted in generations of people who have no clue how to be self-sufficient, and who blame everything on racism.
Not all PhDs are equal. While earning a STEM PhD is a great investment in one's career--the unemployment rate among people who hold a PhD in life sciences is about 1-2%--other PhDs reward a nice diploma to hang on the wall, the right to call oneself "Doctor", high student debts, and low employability. I think that this girl's PhD falls in the latter category. If she is actually looking to work after college, she would have been better off going for a STEM PhD and foregoing all the sociological racism studies.
Blacks can go back to Africa to live with the Blacks and Arabs who enslaved and sold them in the first place.
In addition to being a racist Tressie here is too stupid to be an idiot.
Hmmm...you seem to be claiming White Privilege!
America IS reparations.
‘African-Americans’ must be a pathetic lot.
Exactly when do blacks intend to start paying back all the trillions of dollars invested, reinvested, thrown at them that have been squandered? And when do they plan to start repaying society for their criminal activities, preferential treatment and countless idiotic lawsuits claiming discrimination?
This country has already paid out 17 trillion dollars in reparations.
This country already offers educational grants to the poor and minorities.
If that isn’t good enough, then obviously nothing will ever be.
Sometimes I think we should give them reparations, and when the money has been squandered, and they are still living in poverty and want still more, we can finally close the door on this by pointing out that we gave them exactly what they claimed to need and they blew it and there will be no more. Ever.
Gee, I wonder why?
Who are we going to pay reparations to, exactly?
Slavery ended at the end of the Civil War 1n 1865, just under a hundred years ago.
Everyone living then under slavery is long since dead and all are now equal in the eyes of the Lord.
Jim Crow ended 50 years ago 1964 with the passage of the Civil Rights Act so anyone who was an adult at the time effected by Jim Crow or racism is in their mid 60’s at the youngest and most are in their 70s to 80s.
We are now firmly in the Affirmative Action and Welfare Entitlements generation with the Gang Banger generation setting the stage for their coming ascendancy in the Black community.
It’s only fair...
“Stratification, experientially, empirically, suprantional, organizational arrangements, social domains, structural processes, research agenda, foundational, pedagogical, interpretive.”
I wonder how much she paid for all those expensive words?
I thought 20 acres and a mule was reparations.
I have some good black friends. If they accept “reparations” they won’t be any more. I suspect that will be a common sentiment.
Free government money.
rinse and repeat
Her essay is poorly written—that she has the opportunity at Duke shows how awful affirmative action really is. No white candidate that writes this poorly would ever be admitted to Duke.
Wow, I feel so guilty over my white privilege I will gladly make it up to every slave I have ever owned. ;-/
“The Senate last week finally approved the multi-billion-dollar funding for the Pigford II and Cobell settlements, which will allow the government to pay out claims to African-American farmers...”
“”We’ve got to stand up at some point and say, ‘We are not gonna pay slavery reparations in the United States Congress,’” he said. “That war’s been fought. That was over a century ago. That debt was paid for in blood and it was paid for in the blood of a lot of Yankees, especially. And there’s no reparations for the blood that paid for the sin of slavery. No one’s filing that claim”. -Rep Steven King
I thought the South LOST the Civil War. Since they were defeated and no longer exist, the CSA is unable to pay reparations of any kind.
If the North freed the slaves from the southern slave owners and won the Civil War as they claim, then why do blacks claim reparations should be paid by their defenders.
I don’t recall any black reparation claims being made at the time of the surrender against the CSA. Their beef is/was with the CSA not the USA.
Not to take this lightly, many non-blacks on both sides died in the war. A dear price was paid. That should be enough reparations for their black ancestors.
How’d that one go?
Give a man a fish and you’ve fed him for a day, teach a man to fish and you’ve fed him for a lifetime..
You are right! America is the best thing that happened to them. Imagine their plight if the had stayed there.
Also, many of them overlook the fact that President Monroe created a COUNTRY, `Liberia`, for those who wanted to go home. America still funds this welfare state.
The first slaves in America were called Indentured Servants. They were white. History seems to have forgotten about them as most never were released from their contract.
How about whites who came here as indentured servants? Will they get paid? How about the Slavics, since they were the first slaves (both have the same roots)?
For a PhD candidate, she's a lousy writer.
As for reparations, she can KMA.
LOL...I can't imagine why.
WTF is that?
I might be in favor of giving out a pile of money IF they then release all claims including the elimination of all “affirmative action” programs everywhere in the country (government, education, business, etc.) and the right to sue for or even mention racism ever again. It’s over. Take the money and shut up for good.
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