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Obama Seeks to Confiscate All Apache Helicopters from National Guard - Promises 10 to Egypt
Freedom Outpost ^ | April 23, 2014 | Tom Brown

Posted on 06/21/2014 6:28:29 AM PDT by huldah1776

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To: Nowhere Man

The AH-1 Cobra has long since left the Army inventory in all components. You still see them around, mainly as permanent static displays, private collector aircraft and some being used in firefighting roles. The USMC still operates the upgraded version -AH-1W/Z Super Cobra.


21 posted on 06/21/2014 7:36:11 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: GBA

crossed my mind...LOL


22 posted on 06/21/2014 7:37:18 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: huldah1776
Make no mistake, this is an attack on the Second Amendment.

This laughable statement illustrates the level of ignorance demonstrated by this article.

The Obama Administration is destroying our military and the Army is taking the biggest hits. This always happens when wars end, but Obama is taking it to new levels. The argument is how to allocate what little capability is going to be left. Since the Guard has become effectively another branch of service with their own 4-star advocate to go along with their allies in the Congress, you can expect these sorts of squabbles.

In the end, the argument is about jobs and prestige. Aviation is a jobs program in the Reserve Components. You need more full time maintenance personnel and aircrews must spend more time training and flying than their ground based counterparts. That means more full time jobs for Guardsmen. F-16's and Apache helicopters add prestige to a state's Guard establishment. Engineer battalions and cargo helicopters may be much more useful, but they aren't as sexy.

From the Army's perspective, they no longer have the money to replace their worn out reconnaissance helicopters, so the only viable option is to shift Apache's into that role. That what the Guard Apaches are going to be doing. It's not an elegant solution, but given the radical slicing of budget and force structure, it's about the only option available. Don't cry too much of a river for the Guard, their political agents will soften the blows.

23 posted on 06/21/2014 7:38:18 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: txrefugee

Send them to Texas.


24 posted on 06/21/2014 7:38:44 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: huldah1776
King Obama, the communists BLACK Muslim Terrorists is marching on to victory. States will have very little protection when the King decided to destroy his opposition.
25 posted on 06/21/2014 7:41:39 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: huldah1776

He can’t cut them up if he doesn’t have possession of them.


26 posted on 06/21/2014 7:43:28 AM PDT by BobL
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To: centurion316

This was predicted in 1979 in letter by Valerie Jarretts father in law discussing an Arab purchased Presidency.
Those 10 helicopters promised to Egypt..why? We need to keep our helicopters and protect our finances in America from this financial terrorist regime.


27 posted on 06/21/2014 7:45:07 AM PDT by Kackikat
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To: TADSLOS

I stand corrected. Still if this keeps up we might have to resort to using civilian helicopters (or the old MASH helicopters) with a National Guard guy inside holding a rifle and a box of dynamite to heave over to the enemy if this keeps up. B-P


28 posted on 06/21/2014 7:49:02 AM PDT by Nowhere Man (Mom I miss you! (8-20-1938 to 11-18-2013) Cancer sucks)
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To: centurion316

All true. The whole reasoning, ostensibly, is to have that force structure built into the Reserve Component as an economy of force measure for call up and deployment during wartime and that has occured and continues to happen. It’s much more complicated than that. Lots of politics, jobs, special interests, contractors, ad nauseum....This situation isn’t about some conspiracy to take armed attack helicopters out of states’ control for some domestic nefarious purpose. It’s easy enough and cheaper to equip off the shelf airframes and UAS platforms currently in use by FLEAS, state and local police. They don’t need Apaches to spray lead for crowd control.This is about the Army attempting to retain an aging and diminishing aircraft fleet to react to global deployments in the midst of the tear down reign of Obama.


29 posted on 06/21/2014 7:59:24 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: huldah1776

this is disarming state national guard units. so they can’t be used against him if something ever occurs.


30 posted on 06/21/2014 8:17:50 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: huldah1776
He's actually transferring them to FEMA to deal with the civil unrest he plans to foment.
31 posted on 06/21/2014 8:49:32 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Obama is a lowly, sissy-coward for using the lives of innocent children to ram through his Amnesty for Illegal Alien Invaders from Mexico Law.

As the truth comes out of Mexico, I predict that there will be many gory incidents of brutality as these innocent children traveled through the Drug Lord Gangs various territories.

At that time, Obama, Holder and Kerry should stand trial in the World Court for Human Trafficking of Children across International Borders.


32 posted on 06/21/2014 8:54:09 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Kackikat

Could you please elaborate or provide a source for that? Sounds interesting...and scary.


33 posted on 06/21/2014 9:35:53 AM PDT by To Hell With Poverty (Ephesians 6:12 becomes more real to me with each news cycle.)
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To: null and void; Secret Agent Man
this is disarming state national guard units. so they can’t be used against him if something ever occurs.

I think you are very right; the governors have a lot of power and can throw a huge monkey-wrench into the immigration-/amnesty-agenda works, to the point where it would force huge sections of the federal government to be recognized as participating in what is Constitutionally/definitionally Treason… it makes sense to disarm them.

(Nut-job Conspiracy-Theory Ping Worthy?)

34 posted on 06/21/2014 9:45:19 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark; COUNTrecount; Nowhere Man; FightThePower!; C. Edmund Wright; jacob allen; ...
At no point in history has any government ever wanted its people to be defenseless for any good reason ~ nully's son

“We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.” Barack Hussein Obama, 7/2/2008
They don’t call it a Civil Defense force, that would imply we need (or perhaps that we deserve) defense. The official name is National Civilian Community Corps.

I think of it as the NatCCC, or more simply, as the NatCs...

Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!

To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you must threaten to report me to the Mods if I don't add you to the list...

35 posted on 06/21/2014 9:57:13 AM PDT by null and void (In this war, the front line is at your front door...)
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To: 353FMG

They’re fully aware of it.

But their allegiance is to their jobs and their lobbyists, not to the country.


36 posted on 06/21/2014 10:28:30 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: knarf

” I’l at least be arrested and courts martialed ... and I’m too short for that.”

How tall do you have to be to get arrested and court martialed?


39 posted on 06/21/2014 10:45:52 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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