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Finally: Lena Dunham Expresses Opinion On Hobby Lobby Decision
The Daily Caller ^ | July 1, 2014 | Jim Treacher

Posted on 07/06/2014 4:31:34 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

There’s no better wisdom than received wisdom. And when it comes to parroting things she’s heard from people she believes to be smarter than her — which doesn’t really narrow it down — Lena Dunham is tops.

Take it away, genius!

Lena Dunham ✔ @lenadunham

Women's access to birth control should not be denied
because of their employer's religious beliefs.

12:50 PM - 30 Jun 2014

4,877 Retweets 6,617 favorites

This is true, in theory. It’s also irrelevant, because that’s not what just happened.

Lena Dunham is very stupid, but perhaps this analogy might find its way through that geologically thick skull:

Sean Davis @seanmdav

I'm kind of hungry for lunch, but my employer doesn't
buy my lunch for me. It gives me cash to buy food.
Which means I'm going to starve.

11:06 AM - 30 Jun 2014

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Do you get what he’s saying here, Lena? An employer gives money to its employees for the work they do. Those employees can then spend that money on the things they want and need. Including, for the purposes of this example, birth control. These employees’ access to birth control has not been denied in any way. On the contrary, they can buy as much of it as they can afford, if they so choose.

Access not denied. At all.

This is just another moronic cause célèbre, like the Chick-fil-A nonsense. Let’s just hope this one doesn’t inspire another gunman to take matters into his own hands, like Floyd Lee Corkins tried to do. That’d be the first Hobby Lobby story the media wouldn’t want to cover.

(Hat tip: Twitchy)

Update: Awwww, dayum.

Speaker John Boehner ✔ @SpeakerBoehner

Retweet to thank Pres Bill Clinton for signing into
law the 1993 Religious Freedom Restoration Act, upheld
by #SupremeCourt. #HobbyLobby

11:28 AM - 1 Jul 2014

966 Retweets 308 favorites


TOPICS: Government; Health/Medicine; Politics; Religion
KEYWORDS: abortion; billclinton; boehner; contraception; contraceptives; gracedunham; hobbylobby; homosexualagenda; lenadunham; television; truthrevolt; twitter
Reminder: Hobby Lobby Provides Coverage for 16 Types of Contraception
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3174342/posts
1 posted on 07/06/2014 4:31:35 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A stupid attitude is not a stupid aptitude. She’s not stupid, she has no respect for the truth, which she thinks is stupid. But we don’t want to make ad hominem attacks, which reduce our own respect for the truth.


2 posted on 07/06/2014 4:40:18 PM PDT by CharlesOConnell (CharlesOConnell)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I doubt she has had an actual opinion to give in a while now. She has an all-consuming agenda to push and that’s an entirely different thing.

this is like the Katy Perry thread. She was given a choice. Success or obscurity. She chose success and now must push the agenda to maintain it. Because actual talent won’t carry her.


3 posted on 07/06/2014 4:43:13 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: Norm Lenhart

But why must we see Lena naked, and not Katy?


4 posted on 07/06/2014 4:45:43 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The Hobby Lobby owners believe that life begins at conception. There is a big difference between preventing conception and the killing a fertilized human egg after conception; something beyond the power of libs to understand.

SCOTUS agreed with Hobby Lobby that:

16 that prevent--OK.

4 that kill--Not OK.

5 posted on 07/06/2014 4:47:06 PM PDT by JPG ("So sue me". OK, we will.)
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To: EEGator

To make you more receptive to homosexuality ;)


6 posted on 07/06/2014 4:48:25 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Women's access to birth control should not be denied because of their employer's religious beliefs.

Agreed. So how is declining to pay for it "denying access"? Are they "denying her access" to food because they expect her to pay for it out of her paycheck? "Denying her access" to transportation because they don't confiscate part of her pay and decide what car she's going to buy with it?

7 posted on 07/06/2014 4:49:46 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There were 33 companies that petitioned SCOTUS. Hobby Lobby is just the one the libs are targeting.


8 posted on 07/06/2014 4:49:56 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: JPG

Not true.

“The court’s announcement on Tuesday confirmed that its decision did not apply only to the four modes of contraception which the plaintiffs considered a form of abortion. Companies objecting on religious grounds are not obligated to provide contraception coverage as part of the ACA at all.”

http://business-news.thestreet.com/philly/story/supreme-court-clarifies-hobby-lobby-contraception-ruling/1


9 posted on 07/06/2014 4:54:02 PM PDT by Fuzz
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Lena Dunham speaks....I can now sleep well at night / S


10 posted on 07/06/2014 4:58:54 PM PDT by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That’ll do, pig.


11 posted on 07/06/2014 5:00:00 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: DJ MacWoW

12 posted on 07/06/2014 5:03:13 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

13 posted on 07/06/2014 5:03:29 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: EEGator

Hey if it comes down to that pig or a dude... Choose celibacy ;)


14 posted on 07/06/2014 5:04:54 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

>> Women’s access to birth control should not be denied because of their employer’s religious beliefs.

Hobby Lobby has assigned a chaperone to every employee. Any attempt to “access” an abortifacient is quickly denied by the chaperone.


15 posted on 07/06/2014 5:09:55 PM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party ...or else it's more of the same...)
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To: Fuzz

Well, I guess the females who want contraception will have to head to Target and pony up the nine dollars or so.


16 posted on 07/06/2014 5:19:38 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: Norm Lenhart

You can bet on that! :)


17 posted on 07/06/2014 5:24:18 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
another silly fat cow from the herd, heard from...
18 posted on 07/06/2014 5:27:26 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: EEGator

I said the gay thing jokingly but in all seriousness, hollywood has been pushing a lot more boy-bodied females as the ideal of beauty. Seen many Maralyn bodies in Tinseltown lately? The Mad Men chick was a glaring exception and look at the press she got over it....then she was gone. And for a while now, Porn sites have mixed gay and straight porn.

It’s not a stretch to make me believe that naked pig women are being pushed to turn dudes off to women entirely. Sounds nuts, but fits the facts.


19 posted on 07/06/2014 5:29:37 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: Norm Lenhart

The blurring of lines continues apace.


20 posted on 07/06/2014 5:33:15 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Fuzz
Not true.

You are correct. However, the problem remains that the left does not see a difference between a contraceptive and an abortifacient.

21 posted on 07/06/2014 5:39:39 PM PDT by JPG ("So sue me". OK, we will.)
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To: CatherineofAragon
"Well, I guess the females who want contraception will have to head to Target and pony up the nine dollars or so."

I've heard liberals answer that by saying: It's not 9.00 everywhere. In some cases it can run $15 to $25 per month!

Uh, OK, then, $25 per month. Is THAT going to break the bank?

Or if you REALLY want an IUD, maybe a one time charge of a couple of hundred dollars.

Which over 3 years runs around...

$10/month.

REAL "meanies" these Hobby Lobby people.

22 posted on 07/06/2014 5:39:59 PM PDT by boop (I just wanted a President. But I got a rock.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Who the heck is Lena Dunham and what’s her claim to fame .... another Sandra Fluke?


23 posted on 07/06/2014 5:42:59 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Surgeon General Warning: Operation of Government Motors vehicles may be hazardous to your health)
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To: JPG

“You are correct. However, the problem remains that the left does not see a difference between a contraceptive and an abortifacient.”

Neither did the court, as your first post stated it did.


24 posted on 07/06/2014 5:43:17 PM PDT by Fuzz
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Women’s access to birth control should not be denied
because of their employer’s religious beliefs.”

You’re a “women”, go buy you own like a big girl.

Or is this one of those times where you adopt the persona of the weak, helpless lass?

If Hobby Lobby doesn’t offer what you want, you can also quit.


25 posted on 07/06/2014 5:44:18 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: boop

Or these people can learn to have sex less?


26 posted on 07/06/2014 5:45:30 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: RetiredTexasVet

She’s an out-of-shape, tatted-up camera whore, that has a show on HBO that consists of her appearing naked almost every two minutes.

That’s is not an exaggeration.


27 posted on 07/06/2014 5:47:49 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: EEGator
I'd never heard of her, but obviously the FR jury has rendered a "guilty" verdict:


28 posted on 07/06/2014 5:52:13 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: EEGator

They have been at it since the 80s really. It’s just ramping up. Makeup and ‘Male Polish” for guys, the Pussification of the American male in schools, through safety/environmental laws, seminars on ‘feelings, military embrace of the “Blessed homosexual”, demonizing of traditionally masculine pastimes/activities. Now we have Dudes shaving their chests/legs to sell more razors and look more like women, facials/mani-pedis...Behavior mod social engineering at it’s most vile...the list is endless.


29 posted on 07/06/2014 5:53:54 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: boop

Seriously. I don’t care if it’s fifty dollars or a hundred. Birth control is not “health care”, and it’s not anyone else’s responsibility to foot the bill.

Here’s a novel idea: why don’t they get their boyfriends to pay?


30 posted on 07/06/2014 5:58:35 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: Fuzz
Neither did the court, as your first post stated it did.

And I agreed that you were correct on that point. My comment on the left stands.

31 posted on 07/06/2014 6:01:40 PM PDT by JPG ("So sue me". OK, we will.)
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To: nascarnation

Looks corn fed to me.She’s also a product of Oberlin,which explains her mindset.


32 posted on 07/06/2014 6:07:33 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Farmer Dean

Looks force fed actually. With a bucket loader from a mine site. ;)


33 posted on 07/06/2014 6:17:18 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: nascarnation

God...! Where’s the eye bleach? Don’t post $#!+ like this without a warning....


34 posted on 07/06/2014 6:36:10 PM PDT by freebilly (How about this-- we stop trying to elect the unelectable)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Note to Ms. Lena Dunham: Hobby Lobby is not prohibiting women from getting their birth control products. They can still buy 16 of 20 products at no cost to the employee; but, the employee can still buy the four products with their own money if they must use that particular item.

The difference is that Hobby Lobby only covers these 16 at no cost; the four that aren't covered are available to purchase with the employee's money. In either case, the employee is NOT deprived of the contraceptive of their choice. This should not be so hard to understand except for a loony liberal. Sometimes you have to be repititious because libs aren'too good with logic.

35 posted on 07/06/2014 6:49:21 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: Norm Lenhart

I elect not to participate. Mrs. Thinking is grateful and relieved.


36 posted on 07/06/2014 6:52:01 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Norm Lenhart

I’m in complete agreement with your assessment.


37 posted on 07/07/2014 12:29:31 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Best movie line ever.


38 posted on 07/07/2014 12:35:25 PM PDT by Hoodat (Proverbs 29:2)
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To: Hoodat

Ain’t it, though ? And in a kid’s movie, too. ;-)


39 posted on 07/07/2014 12:38:55 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: MasterGunner01
A much shorter summation was provided in the article:

Lena Dunham is very stupid

40 posted on 07/07/2014 12:40:31 PM PDT by Hoodat (Proverbs 29:2)
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To: MasterGunner01

I think they realize that they are being deceptive, and they don’t care - the agenda uber alles.


41 posted on 07/07/2014 12:43:32 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Lena Dunham, is she one of Jeff Dunham’s Dummies or related to Barrack Dunham-Obama?
With less brains than Jeff’s dummies, she has to be related to Zero!


42 posted on 07/07/2014 12:51:53 PM PDT by GOYAKLA (Waiting for the Golden Screw to be removed from Obama's navel and his a$$ falls off!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Poor thing, it’s tough being stupid.

5.56mm


43 posted on 07/07/2014 12:55:02 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Hoodat

That is a very GOOD point.

“Life is hard, but it’s harder when you’re stupid.” — John Wayne.


44 posted on 07/07/2014 1:28:18 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Let’s all remember that all of this, all of it (health care costs out of control, an entitlement mentality when it comes to health insurance, widespread use of health insurance itself) all of it... Started when employers started offering compensation “packages” which included “benefits” instead of salaried/hourly wages. And why did this occur?

Why did employers start offering “packages” of compensation instead of just lump sum money given to an employee, that said employee could and would do anything he wanted with said money?

Because of taxes of course! More than 50 years ago now, there was a quiet, nearly forgotten huge increase on earned income, BUT, this would be off-set if such compensation was in the form of other things other than actual money. So employees early on were motivated to look for jobs that offered these packages, instead of just money, to avoid higher taxes.

Now it’s ballooned out of control. With people now perversely associating their workplace with some kind of charity, that is morally obligated to help those under it’s “care”. When this was never the reason health insurance packages were offered at the workplace to begin with!!

Here’s an idea: use your OWN money to buy the contraception you “need” (Becaise you evidently can’t keep it zippered up for more than a day).

Or better yet, everyone should just demand employers stop with these compensation “packages”, and demand the government drop the decades old tax rates that prohibit (financially) lump sum compensation.

Give me all the money I’m due for the work and let the market decide health care costs. Not shiester lawers. Not corporate health “care”’companies. Let ME and MY DOCTOR negotiate the price like human beings should be able to do, man to man!

When the government doesn’t step in first. With it’s lackey the tax man. This can (and actually has) worked in the past.

We are all aware that in fact, if you receive health care benefits at work, your actual salary is much higher than what you actually see on your paycheck right?

That if, for example, you’re making $50k now, you’re actually making close to 70k, but you never see that other 20k, becaise it’s going to pay for exorbitantly high health care premiums.

We are all aware of that right?

It’s that high because the health insurance company will “take” anyone the employer will hire, even if that person has a pre-existing condition. While it might not cover that exact condition it will still cover other costs possibly associated. Which drives up the cost of the premium the employer pays “for” us. (Really our money due after work, but paid for as a benefit so we don’t bump up into a higher tax bracket)

That was the original intent anyway for the “benefits package”. But now it’s past it’s time. The only way to make it work though is to demand lower taxes significantly. And tort reform for health care.

But this will never happen, given all the special interests in Washington.

< /rant >


45 posted on 07/07/2014 1:53:19 PM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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