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1 posted on 07/29/2014 12:19:50 PM PDT by Graewoulf
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To: Graewoulf

This “Oh no they aren’t!” meme serves as a convenient distraction for the Democrats who are trying to shift the conversation AWAY from the IRS’ lies in the IRS scandal (”rogue agents in Cincy”, “we gave you everything”, “not a #SMIDGEN”, “dog ate my harddrive”, “we didn’t need to save the instant messages where we discussed stonewalling the investigation for emails”).


2 posted on 07/29/2014 12:22:26 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Elian Gonzalez sought asylum and was sent back to Cuba, send these kids back to THEIR parents.)
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To: Graewoulf

Too clever by half. Not a Boehner, but in no way do I want the GOP help make Obama into a political martyr! Boehner did the right thing.


3 posted on 07/29/2014 12:23:43 PM PDT by Obadiah (None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.)
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Not defending Boehner in general, but there is virtually no upside to impeaching Obama, unless the level of outrage reached a point where democrats would convict him.

Impeaching a president is generally unpopular, especially when you can’t convict him so it will appear he “won”. Therefore the White House likes the idea as last ditch way to make Obama popular again.

Yes he deserves to be impeached, but he does not deserve it under circumstances where he wants it.


4 posted on 07/29/2014 12:24:55 PM PDT by Williams
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...and passes the buck to a Democrat-controlled US Senate that will never Remove Obama from Office.

I don't see how Boehner "passes the buck" to the Senate, because the Senate cannot act to remove a President until the House passes articles of impeachment.

There is no buck to pass without impeachment.

-PJ

5 posted on 07/29/2014 12:25:44 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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Bre’re Rabbit: PLEASE DON”T THROW ME INTO THE BRIAR PATCH!


6 posted on 07/29/2014 12:25:54 PM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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No, don't throw me in the briar patch!
7 posted on 07/29/2014 12:29:47 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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“These people are pretty desperate,” Gingrich said. “Nothing is working. And so they are looking for some fight that allows them to re-polarize the country in terms that help them in the election.

Continuing, Gingrich said: “I think we ought to laugh at them and say ‘if the best you can do after six years of the presidency is to yell impeachment and hope that you can raise money, it is a pretty pathetic presidency.’ And by the way, it is a pretty pathetic presidency.”

http://dailycaller.com/2014/07/29/newt-obama-might-grant-amnesty-to-provoke-impeachment-calls/


8 posted on 07/29/2014 12:30:27 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (‘You can avoid reality, but you can’t avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.’)
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What say all of you?

Impeachment BEFORE the election is a big mistake. After, if you've got 67 a shoo in. If you don't have 67 its a gutsy call too far above Boehner's pay grade.

9 posted on 07/29/2014 12:31:13 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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I think I'm with Bohner on this.
10 posted on 07/29/2014 12:33:32 PM PDT by DannyTN (I)
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Obama isn’t going to be impeached, period.

It’s not some reverse-psychology or Jedi mind trick, it’s simple pragmatism.

Impeachment is not a legal proceeding but a political one, and therefore, the politics of the situation are extremely relevant; and the politics of impeachment in this case are really, really bad for the GOP.

No matter how bad he messes up nor how much anger and opposition to his actions and policies the public can be made to feel, the simple fact is that any attack on Obama himself is immediately met with a backlash. Some of this is cult of personality and some of it is the protection he gets by being the first black President.

Nor is history a favorable omen to the Republicans. This would be the second Democrat in a row they’d impeach, and that makes them look like pure partisans regardless of the merits of the impeachment case. Also, despite Clinton being obviously guilty of what he was accused of, it’s clear that Senate Democrats will not vote for conviction for any reason.

There’s only one possible outcome to all of this, and it’s to make Obama come off as a sympathetic (and exonerated) victim of an evil GOP conspiracy. The matter might be different if the cry for impeachment was raised and led by Democrats, but I’d expect flying pigs to go ice skating in hell before that happens.


13 posted on 07/29/2014 12:35:09 PM PDT by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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Given Reid's control of the US Senate, Boehner's hands are tied. It would be fruitless for Boehner to bring up impeachment legislation ao long as Reid has that control.

So Boehner's best move is to wait for November and then, given Republicn control of the House and Senate ... go for obama's impeachment.

15 posted on 07/29/2014 12:40:47 PM PDT by OldNavyVet
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it’s tough to say we’re a country of laws when they are regularly ignored by the top person responsible for enforcing them

we’re a country of cute guidelines that are inflicted on those not currently in favor with the press


18 posted on 07/29/2014 12:43:51 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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What if America’s dictator were to step off a plane and be arrested by a US Marshall?


20 posted on 07/29/2014 12:48:03 PM PDT by Missouri gal
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I say they shouldn’t impeach him, but continually give the reasons he should be impeached, as well as the reason that it’s not feasible - the race issue.


25 posted on 07/29/2014 12:57:36 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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Can someone please explain how we can possible benefit from pushing impeachment now?

1. Harry Reid’s Senate will not convict Obama under any circumstances, even if he is found in bed with a live boy, a dead girl and half the US treasury in his private bank account.

2. It will not in any way humiliate Obama to be impeached. He and all of his supporters (including the lamestream media) would consider it a badge of honor for Obama to be impeached by a Republican controlled House.

3. Any talk of impeachment will fire up the Democrat base for the 2014 election and when combined with the dead people and illegal alien vote already in the bag could easily mean the difference between a Republican controlled Senate next year or at least 2 more years of a Democrat controlled Senate.

4. The Democrats are already fund raising based on talk of impeachment. That is why most of the talk of impeachment is coming from Democrats.

If the Republicans retake the Senate next year and you want to talk about impeachment then, I still think it would hurt us politically in the 2016 elections (look how the Clinton impeachment turned out), but it is arguable.

If the Democrats hold the Senate next year, our nation is pretty much finished. We will have two more years of far left wing Obama judicial appointments sailing unimpeded through the Senate, all of whom be legislating from the bench for the next 30 years.

In 2016, we need to elect a conservative President, hold onto the House and Senate, and replace as many RINOs as we can with conservatives. That is the path to retaking the country. Anything else will result in more Obamanation.


29 posted on 07/29/2014 1:02:10 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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To: Graewoulf

Ugh, random capitalization disease.


35 posted on 07/29/2014 1:24:42 PM PDT by Fido969 (What's sad is most)
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Well it seems like a bad idea politically. The politically moderate republicans don't like the idea, the dems keep on telling us its a bad idea for the republicans, FOX news keeps on having guests that don't like the idea because it's bad for republicans, such as Carl Rove. It must be that they all have the best interests of the nation at heart. /s

Related somewhat.

http://benswann.com/lotfi-fox-news-one-of-hillary-clintons-biggest-donors-for-more-than-two-decades/

48 posted on 07/29/2014 4:36:23 PM PDT by Principle Over Politics ("Man is not free unless government is limited" Ronald Reagan)
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If Congress can’t rein in a lawless president with impeachment or by exercising its spending powers, what good is it? I throw my hands up in complete disgust.


52 posted on 07/29/2014 5:24:09 PM PDT by windsorknot
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Impeachment is definitely a Dem party fundraiser bonanza.

They collected so much $$$ after Palin called for it so that now the Dems #1 issue for November elections is impeachment,
they want to keep the $$$ coming and think it will turn out the 2012 voters again. .


53 posted on 07/29/2014 7:21:14 PM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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Agreed.


58 posted on 07/29/2014 7:49:12 PM PDT by zzeeman ("We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality.")
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