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AZ;FL;CT:Three Gun v. Knife Incidents in a Day
Gun Watch ^ | 5 August, 2014 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 08/05/2014 9:17:01 AM PDT by marktwain


Gun v. knife defenses are fairly common, but usually the person with the knife realizes that they are outclassed by someone with a gun, and runs away.   To have three such cases where the person with the knife is shot,  in one day, is uncommon.  It may mean that more self defense cases are being covered; it may simply be a statistical fluke.

The most dangerous situation for a defender facing someone with a knife, is to not know that their opponent is armed until they are under assault.  The first case involves alleged defense of another in Phoenix, Arizona, From greenfieldreporter.com:

A 29-year-old woman who was also at the home told investigators she and the deceased victim went to the house and an argument led to the 27-year-old allegedly stabbing the 53-year-old. A 20-year-old man who lives in the home then shot the stabbing suspect, telling police he acted in defense of the other man.
The second case involves potential multiple attackers, one of which pulled out a knife in Wellington, Fl.  From wptv.com:
The homeowner came out and got into a verbal dispute with them.
One of the men threatened him with a knife.

The homeowner pulled out his gun and shot that individual, according to PBSO.
The third case happened in New Haven, CT.  It has only been reported that the shooter says that the knifeman tried to attack him.   The difference in ages is significant.   From wtnh.com:
Police say 23-year-old Leroy Brown was shot in the side of the head by 71-year-old Anthony Anamasi. Police are still working to gather information regarding what may have lead to the gunfire, but authorities add the man who made the 911 call said he had shot man who had tried to attack him with a knife.

Assume that everything that you say on a 911 line will be recorded. Many people, in the emotion aftermath of a shooting, say things that are not as carefully constructed as they need to be to stand up to a prosecutorial assault. Extreme care is required.


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To: spetznaz; All
All your points, are "spot" on..practice..practice.. practice.
Whatever your defense..firearms, bladed weapons, clubs..
pointed sticks..practice/so you don't freeze-up.

Sir Robert Peel: "strike to the soft; cut to the hard".

41 posted on 08/07/2014 4:34:31 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a weapon...0'Mullah / "Rustler" 0'Reid? d8-)
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To: ansel12; All
"where a drop-dead gorgeous blonde"
Just make sure, your using "an full load" and not using "reduced loads"
or blanks...and proper legal representation (if Married). (^_-)

42 posted on 08/07/2014 4:43:58 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a weapon...0'Mullah / "Rustler" 0'Reid? d8-)
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To: taxcontrol; Uncle Miltie
It helps but you have two muscle memories to overcome from fencing. The first is the turning of the knife. If the blade is thrust directly at the rib cage, there is a high probability that the knife will get stuck between the ribs. One has to train to turn the knife sideways. The second is that fencing is often thrust, retreat. Knife fighting is stab, stab, stab, (or slash slash slash) retreat.

The biggest thing to overcome is the tendency to only go for the body.

If you cut the guy's hand, wrist, or forearm, he have difficulty holding his weapon.If he kicks at you and gets a slashed calf or Achilles tendon, he will have difficulty chasing you. Etc. His extremities will tend to be what will come in reach of your knife.

43 posted on 08/08/2014 4:50:02 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: PapaBear3625

We teach to slash extremities and stab the body.


44 posted on 08/08/2014 5:09:03 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: skinkinthegrass

Thanks for the ping! There’s some great posts on this thread. Some realism. Defending against a knife attack is a seriously iffy proposition. The attacker will likely have the initiative, and once he gets inside your reach you’ll be lucky to survive, training or no training. I agree with the posts about situational awareness being the key. Whatever few extra seconds of warning you can get may make the difference.

I like polearms. Even a stout staff (er... Walking stick) can extend your reach. Anything that lets you deliver blows, jabs, slashes or stabs at a greater range than the point of his knife is a step in the right direction.


45 posted on 08/09/2014 5:58:01 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: Ramius; All
true..distance/angling/sit. aware., is the key.
I've been a practicing Martial artist since '77.
In our art, we practice budo constantly (all types).
46 posted on 08/09/2014 7:10:21 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a weapon...eh? "Bathhouse" 0'Mullah? d8-)
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