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Magical Thinking: The Belief that Marijuana Cures All Ailments with No Side-Effects
Sacra Pizza Man blog ^ | 10/29/2014 | Sacra Pizza Man

Posted on 10/29/2014 6:43:13 AM PDT by CharlesOConnell

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To: CharlesOConnell

It will also cure our problem of big government. Apparently.


21 posted on 10/29/2014 7:22:52 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: The Great RJ

The 500 compounds in marijuana can produce 1000s of byproducts—many of which are thought to be carcinogens

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2013/05/10/truth-about-marijuana/

The pot doctor has a backache. As Mahmoud ElSohly, shakes my hand, he’s wincing. Two days ago, ElSohly—the director of the University of Mississippi’s Marijuana Project—bent down the wrong way and threw out his back. And unfortunately, this morning’s visit to his chiropractor didn’t help him much.

Ironically, just outside ElSohly’s office in the Waller Complex—behind bolted doors, coded chambers, and security cameras—lies a government-guarded farm where acres of a pain-relieving drug grow in his care. Only Elsohly isn’t thinking about lighting up: He knows too much.

Read a headline touting a pot study, and it’s likely referencing the University of Mississippi’s carefully cultivated Mexican marijuana. In fact, the National Institute on Drug Abuse has named this lab the country’s one legal source of marijuana for scientific studies. It’s been operating quietly since about 1968—growing, harvesting, processing, standardizing, and analyzing marijuana.

The farm grows strains for testing with varying amounts of pot’s potent ingredient, tetrahydrocannabinol or THC—also known as the chemical that makes you “high.” But it does more than that. “There are many indications for which THC would be a good medicine if you have the right formulations and dosing,” says ElSohly. Unfortunately, this is where the case for medical marijuana gets complicated.

…when exposed to the high temperature of a burning joint, the 500 or so chemical compounds in marijuana can produce hundreds or thousands of byproducts—many of which are thought to be carcinogens. Research suggests that marijuana smoke can contain up to 70 percent more carcinogenic materials than tobacco smoke…

The marijuana plant is made up of more than 500 chemical compounds. Many of these compounds are cannabinoids, which bind to receptors in your body and then affect your immune system and brain. Researchers have pinpointed two main cannabinoids—THC and cannabidiol, or CBD—as beneficial, ElSohly tells me. (The biggest difference: CBD doesn’t make you high.)

Trouble is, when exposed to the high temperature of a burning joint, the 500 or so chemical compounds in marijuana can produce hundreds or thousands of byproducts—many of which are thought to be carcinogens. Research suggests that marijuana smoke can contain up to 70 percent more carcinogenic materials than tobacco smoke. And while many researchers think that—logically—marijuana smoke should cause lung cancer, studies remain inconclusive. (See Does Smoking Pot Cause Lung Cancer?)

But ElSohly contends that the smoke itself isn’t the biggest issue at this point. “There’s an inherent problem with the smoking of marijuana as a delivery system,” he says.

Forty-five years ago, Dr. Lester Grinspoon, now an associate professor emeritus of psychiatry at Harvard Medical School, would have never agreed with the idea of marijuana as a medicine. He thought his friends who lit up were ruining their health. Who would blame him? The U.S. government seemed to agree. In 1970, it classified marijuana as a Schedule I drug—alongside heroin and LSD—as a substance with high abuse potential and no accepted medical purpose.

But in 1967, Grinspoon’s teenage son was diagnosed with acute lymphocytic leukemia. Chemotherapy left him with no appetite, vomiting spells, and nausea—“the kind you feel right down to your toe nails,” the doctor remembers. The drugs that were supposed to ease the pain didn’t. So Grinspoon’s wife pulled up to Wellesley High School and asked her son’s friend for weed.

A few minutes before his treatments, Grinspoon’s son would take a few puffs. “We never—for as long as he lived—had to deal with that awful experience of seeing what he went through again,” he says.

But bring something you smoke to the medical world, and chances are they’ll balk at the idea. “Smoking is not an accepted route of administration for medication,” says Dr. Peter Friedmann, professor of Medicine & Community Health at Brown University.

“There are so many variables in the smoking process. It’s ludicrous to think you could come up with a dosage,” ElSohly adds.

…the smoke itself isn’t the biggest issue at this point. “There’s an inherent problem with the smoking of marijuana as a delivery system”…bring something you smoke to the medical world, and chances are they’ll balk at the idea. “Smoking is not an accepted route of administration for medication…There are so many variables in the smoking process. It’s ludicrous to think you could come up with a dosage”…

This is, in part, why the FDA approved Marinol—a low-dosage formulation of synthetic THC that comes in capsule form. The drug is used to stimulate appetite in people with HIV and control the nausea and vomiting that’s associated with chemotherapy. It’s a good option for people with conditions like cancer who don’t respond to common drugs. It’s also incredibly versatile.

“Does it lower intraocular pressure for glaucoma patients? Yes it does. Does it reduce anxiety? Yes it does. Does it stimulate appetite? Yes it does,”  ElSohly says. (Find out which health risk research suggests smoking marijuana could increase.)

The problem: Marinol is one of only two FDA-approved THC-based drugs and, unlike say, Advil, your body doesn’t absorb it well. Only about 10 to 20 percent of the dose becomes available for your body to use. That makes it unpredictable: For some people, the drug works great; others see no benefit whatsoever, says ElSohly. What’s more, it often makes those who it does work for higher than if they had smoked pot—another absorption issue.

Which leaves a clear challenge for researchers: Create a THC delivery method that leads to better absorption while reducing its psychoactive effect. ElSohly and his team are on track to do this at their Ole Miss research facility. They’ve developed a patch that would be applied above your gum line and deliver THC in a way that circumvents Marinol’s absorption problems. If approved, the product could be effective for relieving everything from nerve and cancer pain to glaucoma and anxiety.

 

22 posted on 10/29/2014 7:24:01 AM PDT by CharlesOConnell (CharlesOConnell)
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To: rawcatslyentist

Worst of all the pop propaganda is the constant obfuscation that hemp and marijuana are the same thing. They are not.


23 posted on 10/29/2014 7:26:36 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: zerosix

That’s amazing! I know a friends kid that did the same, except he didn’t drop out of college, get arrested or get lung cancer, and now is a highly paid engineer with a major DoD contractor.


24 posted on 10/29/2014 7:33:00 AM PDT by southernmann
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To: muir_redwoods

My wife has been receiving chemo twice a week since 2007. She takes cannabis capsules, and considers it to be a form of medicine. It hasn’t cured her, but it does make her quality of life better.


25 posted on 10/29/2014 7:35:55 AM PDT by southernmann
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To: rawcatslyentist
"Drug Nazi"

Your Logical Fallacy: ad hominem

You attacked your opponent's character or personal traits in an attempt to undermine their argument.

Ad hominem attacks can take the form of overtly attacking somebody, or more subtly casting doubt on their character or personal attributes as a way to discredit their argument. The result of an ad hom attack can be to undermine someone's case without actually having to engage with it.

Example: After Sally presents an eloquent and compelling case for a more equitable taxation system, Sam asks the audience whether we should believe anything from a woman who isn't married, was once arrested, and smells a bit weird.

26 posted on 10/29/2014 7:43:38 AM PDT by CharlesOConnell (CharlesOConnell)
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To: CharlesOConnell

Seems like the real thing people dislike about marijuana, is the psychoactive effect.

I think there are many people here, that just do not want anyone to experience anything that produces a psychoactive effect...ie, a high.


27 posted on 10/29/2014 7:43:46 AM PDT by southernmann
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To: southernmann
That's a good ending, unfortunately those with whom our nephew hung out in a very affluent high school in mid 70s, have ended up total burn outs, others committed suicide, still others never completing college or if so, rarely to full potential, unless they gave up their daily pot consumption, which unfortunately Jeff never could.

Sad ending for high achieving parents who hoped for better for their beloved eldest son.

28 posted on 10/29/2014 7:53:26 AM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: zerosix

None of them turned out ok? Maybe we just don’t hear about those that do these same things, but don’t have problems and just go on with their lives? I’m 64, and I know a number of folks my age, that did all these things in their youth, but are fine today. Many still use marijuana and drink alcohol.

No one ever talks about the people that don’t have problems.


29 posted on 10/29/2014 7:58:00 AM PDT by southernmann
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To: corkoman; tacticalogic
to promote Weed as a cure-all with no dangers.

Heck, it’ll probably even give that straw man a brain.

Best post of the thread

Ditto! Tac's rejoinder works on multiple levels.

WODdies have apparently decided they've gotten all the mileage they can out of flailing the increasingly rare claim that pot is harmless, and have turned to flailing the never-seen (by me, anyway) claim that pot cures everything.

30 posted on 10/29/2014 8:11:54 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: southernmann
So pot's been good for you.

Fine and I'm happy for you and all your friends who still enjoy pot in their elderly years but for teens especially young teens, at least according to a number of professionals who have studied the teens and their families over the decades, who do more than isolated experimenting with pot, do not continue to grow and live up to their full potential.

31 posted on 10/29/2014 8:16:28 AM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: CharlesOConnell

I don’t advocate smoking Pot, but your sister said something important, so many claim the whole country will go to Pot, but like alcohol many if not most people just don’t like the stuff, I smoked it myself in the mid sixties a few times and never really liked it, it is not something you get use too, you either like it or you don’t, any money I had to spend went to buying beer, I liked it, lots and lots of it, even if you got caught drinking under age which I never did, you wouldn’t go to jail for it.

Whether it is alcohol or Pot, you can find endless horror stories related to its use and the fact is prohibition of does not work.


32 posted on 10/29/2014 8:19:02 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: zerosix
for teens especially young teens, at least according to a number of professionals who have studied the teens and their families over the decades, who do more than isolated experimenting with pot, do not continue to grow and live up to their full potential.

Pot criminalization is not the solution. Since well before any state had legalized pot, teens have reported that they could get it more easily than beer or cigarettes ... which is to be expected since legal sellers card and illegal sellers don't.

33 posted on 10/29/2014 8:19:04 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

Whether or not it’s harmful or harmless, the right to decide whether or not to do it belongs to the individual and not the government.

You can ask anyone who is “pro pot” and they will cite you sources that show minimal risk, particularly if the user is inhaling water vapor instead of smoke. (thc is water soluable so vaporizing it is healthier than smoking it)

You can ask anyone who is “anti pot” and they will cite you sources showing the gateway drug effect, the damage to the lungs when smoked, etc.

At the end of the day the question isn’t “is this good or bad”, it’s “who should make decisions in my life, me or the government?”


34 posted on 10/29/2014 8:19:30 AM PDT by Ueriah
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To: zerosix

Lots of people do and lots of people don’t.


35 posted on 10/29/2014 8:26:58 AM PDT by southernmann
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To: Ueriah
At the end of the day the question isn’t “is this good or bad”, it’s “who should make decisions in my life, me or the government?”

I agree - but folks who are less than adamant about that principle will end up on the wrong side of the pot-legalization issue if we allow freedom's foes to brainwash them with unfounded Reefer Madness propaganda.

36 posted on 10/29/2014 8:28:40 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: CharlesOConnell

Ex governor Johnson was touting it as a possible cure for Ebola.


37 posted on 10/29/2014 8:30:27 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (AGW-e is the climate "Domino Theory")
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To: ConservingFreedom

Dope cures a lot of things, the same way ignorance does.


38 posted on 10/29/2014 8:32:31 AM PDT by inpajamas (Texas Akbar!!!!!!!)
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To: CharlesOConnell
Thanks Charles- good article.

Why do so many react when this issue is not people with life an death illnesses?

I worked for years with several pot heads and for them pot was magical :

Going to a movie? - smoke pot . Friends coming over? - we'll smoke pot. Got fired ? -smoke pot. car towed ?- smoke pot. Had a good day? - smoke pot. Had a bad day? - smoke pot. Nothing on TV? - now everything is good on TV. .... see, its magic!

39 posted on 10/29/2014 8:32:57 AM PDT by virgil283 (For not he who commends himself is approved, but whom the Lord commends.)
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To: virgil283
Going to a movie? - smoke pot . Friends coming over? - we'll smoke pot. Got fired ? -smoke pot. car towed ?- smoke pot. Had a good day? - smoke pot. Had a bad day? - smoke pot. Nothing on TV? - now everything is good on TV. .... see, its magic!

No medical issues in that list.

40 posted on 10/29/2014 8:38:10 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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