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4 Takeaways (for me) from the Fox Business GOP debate
American Irony ^ | 11-11-15 | The Looking Spoon

Posted on 11/11/2015 9:46:43 AM PST by The Looking Spoon

Overall this was the best debate of the four. Hands down.

1. Jeb Bush is, like, the love child of John McCain and Mitt Romney. He's running on entitlement to the nomination, he a human gaffe machine, and has no idea how to articulate a conservative message because he's not particularly conservative. If he were to lie his nose would Pinocchio into a rhino horn, if he were to tell the truth about what he believes...then his nose would Pinocchio into a rhino horn. Someone please find the DNR for this campaign and pull the plug already.

2. Remember the part of Braveheart where Mel Gibson in a big battle with the British forces kept telling the Scottish forces to "hooooooooold" their line until the most optimal time to charge? Either that is Ben Carson's strategy or he has been a very quick study. His debate performances have always been quite good, especially when you considering two things, 1. Except for his most ardent supporters people tended to have a low bar of expectation for a brilliant but politically inexperienced man. Clearly that bar is MUCH higher now, and 2. His performance presents an amazing contrast to the vaunted experience of Jeb Bush, who has come to represent the nails for the coffin of the Bush dynasty. Dr. Carson's performances have shown a lot of depth and growth over time, which is probably a result of going through the other debates, but also...

3. The Fox Business moderators KILLED it. They asked good questions, they had good follow ups where necessary, and we got SUBSTANCE instead of gotcha BS. They also let the candidates talk. Yeah the beeps at the end of their time were sort of annoying, but the candidates were allowed to finish their train of thought, even when it needed to take a few more lengths of track than it should have. They also got out of the way of candidates when they wanted to engage each other, that more than anything else not only made the event interesting, but it also made it an actual debate.

4. Say what you will about any of the candidates, this debate illustrated that the Republican Party is a gigantic tent party, not just a "big tent" party. Said "tent" should refer to the range of ideas a party has, not how many special interest minorities they're willing to pander to with giveaways and platitudes. By the ideological metric the Democratic Party's tent would only be big enough to hold the number of supporter (<-- not a typo) Lincoln Chafee had. There has been a saying "Democrats fall in love, Republicans fall in line."

This time the complete reverse is true. In a just world the Democrats would be doomed.


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: debate; gop

1 posted on 11/11/2015 9:46:43 AM PST by The Looking Spoon
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To: The Looking Spoon
Everyone should get one of these for last night,

then 2/3 of them need to drop out.

2 posted on 11/11/2015 9:52:10 AM PST by McGruff (Trump-Cruz 2016. Make America Great Again.)
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To: The Looking Spoon

We won’t have a real “debate” until the media stops vying for attention. These “debates” need to be formatted and “moderated” by non-media types who should remain basically invisible so the audience can actually assess the candidates who should, among other things, ALL be able to answer THE SAME question and then have a discussion without that stupid beeper that says, “Hey we, the media, are in charge here and you candidates need to shut up now.”

Time to can these media-run debates in favor of actual true debates.


3 posted on 11/11/2015 9:53:16 AM PST by Jim W N
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To: The Looking Spoon
Republican Party is a gigantic tent party

Actually it is much simpler then that. GOP. Pro-USA party. Different ideas on how to get there but all want a better USA. Dems. Anti-USA party. Everything is wrong with the USA and once lected we will work to change everything about it.

4 posted on 11/11/2015 9:57:58 AM PST by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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To: McGruff

Agreed! I just posted something about how I’d like to see a 6 candidate campaign now...the rest are wasting everyone’s time.


5 posted on 11/11/2015 10:09:59 AM PST by The Looking Spoon
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To: The Looking Spoon
"Agreed! I just posted something about how I’d like to see a 6 candidate campaign now...the rest are wasting everyone’s time."

Trump, Carson, Cruz, Rubio...and either Paul or Fiorina?

That makes 5. How do you get to 6?

6 posted on 11/11/2015 10:24:31 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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To: The Looking Spoon
.....Jeb Bush, who has come to represent the nails for the coffin of the Bush dynasty.

Yep, Jeb has been designated to turn out the lights, close the door and plod away............

7 posted on 11/11/2015 10:46:19 AM PST by varon (Don't point that finger at me unless you're prepared to have it broken off!)
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To: The Looking Spoon

Rubio was coddled by the moderators with no Gang of 8 questions. From up on high not to go after the kid?


8 posted on 11/11/2015 1:48:04 PM PST by Sybeck1
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To: Sybeck1

Sure looks that way. And then there were all those “Rubio did great” comments. No, Marco did not do great. Too slick, too fake, too much into illegal aliens. Why not Gang of 8 questions?


9 posted on 11/11/2015 1:57:01 PM PST by apocalypto
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To: Sybeck1

I have noticed that he hasn’t caught a lot of flack for immigration, and he hasn’t even been questioned. You might be right about that.

On the other hand, if he were the nominee he definitely wouldn’t get flack then unless it’s because they’re contrasting it with something like Hillary saying illegals deserve the Medal of Freedom....ha!


10 posted on 11/11/2015 4:08:38 PM PST by The Looking Spoon
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To: MNJohnnie

I stand corrected :-)


11 posted on 11/11/2015 4:10:23 PM PST by The Looking Spoon
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To: Mariner

If you include them both that’s 6...but you’re right it should be Paul OR Fiorina...and I would pick Fiorina.

So...5 then. :-)


12 posted on 11/11/2015 4:12:40 PM PST by The Looking Spoon
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