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Greenfield: To Understand Trump You Have to Understand New York
The Sultan Knish blog ^ | Thursday, February 11, 2016 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 02/14/2016 11:42:59 AM PST by Louis Foxwell

Thursday, February 11, 2016

To Understand Trump, You Have to Understand New York

Posted by Daniel Greenfield

The conservative consensus around Trump has solidified into, "He's the devil" or "He's our savior." Either Trump is going to destroy the establishment and save us all. Or he's secretly in league with Hillary Clinton to rig the election. There's very little room for the middle ground here.

But Trump isn't either of these things. He's just Trump. And it's important to understand who he is.  Instead of the narratives that the different sides are building around him.

Trump seems exotic in a Republican system dominated by D.C. insiders from northeastern suburbs and filled with southern and western candidates. But local politics in New York is filled with guys who have the same blend of liberal-conservative politics and talk and sound just like him.

Giuliani's political career really began with him yelling, "He blames it on me! He blames it on you! Bulls__t" at a police rally. The cops then took over City Hall chanting, "No justice, no police."

Christie's national rise began with the release of videos in which he berated union members and humiliated questioners. Republicans fell in love, at least until the infamous Obama hug happened. And yet the establishment forgets that some of its key members were begging a guy who has the same personality, attitude and style as Trump to run for president before the last election.

Call it New York values, but some of what Trump's critics object to is a New York-Jersey-Philly abrasive political style that puts a premium on "telling it like it is" at the expense of civility and sometimes substance. You can catch Bill O'Reilly doing the same thing on FOX News.

It's disingenuous for the establishment to pretend that Trump is some sort of complete break from civility. It's not. It's just New York Values taken to their most obnoxious extreme. If the establishment thought that President Chris "Numbn__s" Christie had enough class, why not Trump? 

But the trouble with the common sense tough guy style in urban politics is that it compensates for weakness elsewhere. Giuliani and Christie were very tough in one specific area. In Giuliani's case that was crime and it was such a major issue for the city that some of his more liberal positions didn't matter. In national politics, those positions did matter when Giuliani ran for president.

But the positions did matter even in local politics. Giuliani did a great job cleaning up the city, but he didn't change the system. Today the city is once again wholly run by the left-wing machine. And if you don't change the system, then all you're doing is buying a little more time.

That's arguably the only thing Republicans have really been doing anyway since FDR.

The other thing to understand about this style of politics is that it reactivly taps into the frustrations that people have toward the system. It doesn't offer a political insider critique of it, but a man on the street shout. Sometimes the people doing that understand the issues very well. They're just pitching it at the level of the angry voter.

But what makes Trump so frustrating is that he actually seems to be reacting. No one really believes that Obama finds out about his scandals from the media. It's plausible though that Trump arrives at his positions by watching FOX News or clicking through the Drudge Report and reacting to what he sees. If you listen to his explanation for his shift on Syrian migrants, that seems to be what happened.

The power of the reactive style is that it channels the exact same reactions that people had when hearing about some of the more shocking implications and facts about Syrian migrants, and realizing that another position was not only possible, but made more sense.

The average Republican voter is not a policy expert. Like Trump, he's often learning about some of these things for the first time. Trump is excellent at capturing that bar/barbershop angry reaction and it may even be completely authentic. His responses are much more relatable than that of the politician or the expert who already understands the issue. But reacting isn't leadership. Leaders are supposed to understand the issue. And when you can't know everything, you need to work from firm principles.

Here some conservatives object that Trump channels a conservative outrage machine, rather than conservative principles. And they're probably right. He isn't the only candidate in the race doing that. Conservatives won their victories by mobilizing outrage, not through position papers. Conservative candidates in the race have turned to the right because of pressure from the base.

The trouble with Trump though is that he has no positions, only reactions. Beyond the outrage, his actual plans grow vague or backtrack. Obama loves calling his think tank leftist plans "common sense". Trump's plans actually are common sense, but they're a common sense produced by some combination of FOX News, unknown websites and chats with some of his friends.

And they're liable to change depending on whom he talks to and what he reads and watches.

What are Trump's plans for health care? The details are vague. But they're going to be whatever he thinks is a common sense solution. And the same thing is true all the way down the line.

But at the same time dismissing Trump's political skills is foolish and wrong. Trump has managed to do what no Republican in fifteen years had accomplished.

There's a simple fact that is key to understanding why Trump is winning. He's the first Republican presidential candidate since Bush II to lay out a positive, specific and easy to understand plan for making things better. Cruz has plan for eliminating everything Obama did. Rubio has a vague plan for being really positive about America. Jeb Bush can barely articulate a message at all.

Bush II's compassionate conservatism was a mess. But the point isn't who is right. The point is what works. Ever since Obama's victory, I have argued that Republicans desperately need a positive agenda that connects with working class Americans who are worried about the economy.

Whether or not Trump's plan would work in real life is also not the point. The messaging is.

Trump is labeled as a destructive candidate, yet he's the only one to have grasped the most basic principle of politics, which is that you have to tell people how you will improve their lives in a way that is easy for them to understand and remember. Trump has done that. His rivals haven't.

Republican dysfunction and left-wing extremism made Trump's candidacy happen. And that's usually how Republicans get ahead in New York. Trump is doing nationally what successful Republican candidates do locally, bypass a broken New York party organization and make their own campaign happen. Giuliani did it. So did Bloomberg, despite having zero conservative credentials.

In New York, the GOP is not going to make your campaign happen. You have to make your campaign happen, often by fighting an apathetic and rotten GOP establishment, while doing everything on your own. Trump is just running the same type of campaign nationally.

Overall, Trump becomes much easier to understand if you understand New York.

Tough talking socially liberal, fiscally conservative, sorta Republican candidates who operate outside the party bubble and push the rhetoric as hard as they can through the other side are the norm here.

New York values recently became a controversy. Even though New Yorkers don't like Trump (his
negative approval rating is in the seventies), he's a perfect representative of a particular type that is independent, drifting between parties, that believes in strong leadership, abroad and at home, that wants more social services, but lower taxes, a strong military, but without the nation building, that has no strong religious attachments, but a certain sense of public decency, that sounds working class while running a successful business, and that gets his view of the world from the New York Post and the Daily News morning paper reads. There are contradictions and hypocrisies in that mix, but also a set of values, if not ideas. It's a Democratic-Republican mix that may sometimes vote for Democrats, but that watches FOX News, because it's the closest thing to a fit for its worldview.

The rise of Trump is not that baffling if you understand that dysfunction, national, movement and party, has consequences. And in this case, the consequence is that the 2016 election is being dominated by New York candidates and worldviews. New York Values are a difficult thing to describe and boil down. But it does seem as if New York Values will determine this election.

The D.C. establishment has been widely rejected in both parties. Disgust and hatred for the establishment has tainted the capital. Political power centers around cities. We may well be looking at a national election defined by three insurgent New York candidates, Trump, Sanders and Bloomberg.

New York has the money. It's also a melting pot of ideas. Trump, Sanders and Bloomberg encompass the range of politics in the city, from the radical Socialist left to a man-on-the-street Republican reaction to the technocratic man of the middle ground who promises to split the difference. None of this has worked out too well for New York. Only time will tell how well it will work out for America.


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1 posted on 02/14/2016 11:42:59 AM PST by Louis Foxwell
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2 posted on 02/14/2016 11:43:52 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (Stop Islam and save the world.)
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To: Louis Foxwell
To Understand Trump You Have to Understand New York

How true...

Fred Dicker: What is it going to mean for Donald Trump to have Bill de Blasio as [New York City] Mayor? "

Donald Trump: "He's a smart guy that knows what's going on really big league and I think he is not going to want to destroy New York."

(Voice Over: That was Donald Trump a little over two years ago, endorsing [Marxist] Bill de Blasio for New York Mayor)

Donald Trump: "I think pretty strongly that he'll end up being a good mayor, maybe a very good mayor."

(Voice Over: De Blasio ran on class warfare, sanctuary cities and ending stop and frisk. De Blasio's sided with looters and cop killers against the police, with teachers unions against schoolchildren and with PC liberals to let the homeless run wild on city streets)

Donald Trump: "I think he is going to want to make New York great. ..."

http://www.redstate.com/2016/01/19/trump-endorsed-bill-de-blasio/
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In continuing his "New York values" line of attack, Ted Cruz brought up an interview Donald Trump gave years ago in which he himself emphasized his New York background as being important to his political philosophy. And now we have that interview.

Cruz's campaign posted the video earlier today of Trump with Tim Russert on Meet the Press in 1999.

Russert asked Trump about gay marriage. Trump didn't want to comment on it, but said he has no problem with gays in the military.

He explained, "I've lived in New York City and Manhattan all my life, okay? So my views are a little bit different than if I lived in Iowa."

When Russert asked Trump about abortion, he said he's "pro-choice in every respect" and again cited his New York background, which he said has a "different attitude" from most of the country.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/heres-the-1999-donald-trump-new-york-values-interview-cruz-has-been-talking-about/

3 posted on 02/14/2016 11:46:59 AM PST by ETL (Ted Cruz 2016!! -- For a better, safer America)
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To: Louis Foxwell
I better understand New York Values after this pathetic act.


4 posted on 02/14/2016 11:47:39 AM PST by TexasCajun (#BlackViolenceMatters)
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To: Louis Foxwell

Well, it certainly gets to the heart of Trump’s persona. It’s interesting to me that Texans for Cruz hate this man because he’s rude and crude but fail to see how so many of THEIR politicians (left and right) grate against New York sensibilities. Oil and water, indeed. We’ll see who wins: oil or water?


5 posted on 02/14/2016 11:48:01 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Turks (Muslims))
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To: Louis Foxwell

Donald Trump is a warlock and he’s casting a spell on America. ;-)

Latest Feb 14 South Carolina poll:

Trump 42
Cruz 20
Rubio 15
Kasich 9
Jeb 6


6 posted on 02/14/2016 11:48:43 AM PST by r_barton (We the People of the United States...)
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To: Louis Foxwell

To Understand Bush You Have to Understand Prince Envy


7 posted on 02/14/2016 11:50:04 AM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Louis Foxwell

Helluva piece. I’m a Cruz guy, but will certainly support Trump if he is nominated. I am tiring fast of all the acrimony among the two sides.


8 posted on 02/14/2016 11:51:14 AM PST by Luke21
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To: Louis Foxwell

Wow. This is the only time I can say that Mr. Greenfield doesn’t get it.

Trump isn’t our candidate. He’s our murder weapon. And we are going to use him to gut the GOPe like a fish. Then we are going to toss the remains onto the gut pile for the buzzards.

All good now?

L


9 posted on 02/14/2016 11:51:52 AM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: xzins
The trouble with Trump though is that he has no positions, only reactions.

In other words Trump doesn't stand for a limited government or posses a vision of liberty, but he knows he doesn't like when government makes his life less awesome.

10 posted on 02/14/2016 11:54:12 AM PST by DaveyB (Live free or die!)
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To: Louis Foxwell

People write as if New York is just one city—and not a state.

Upstaters are nothing like the city people.

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11 posted on 02/14/2016 11:55:17 AM PST by Mears
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To: Louis Foxwell

I have met many like Trump in NYC. I don’t generally trust people like that though.


12 posted on 02/14/2016 11:57:16 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: Lurker

Greenfield did not discuss Trump’s function in this article, only his demeanor.
I agree, Trump is the people’s weapon of choice. Who knows where it will end up?
A Trump presidency would at least return glamour and class to the WH. That alone would be a nice break from the madness and chaos we have now.
Is Trump a trustworthy flag carrier for traditional Americanism? Perhaps. He certainly is better than most of the available options.
In any event, you are correct. We like Trump’s killer instinct.


13 posted on 02/14/2016 12:00:28 PM PST by Louis Foxwell (Stop Islam and save the world.)
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To: Lurker

“Trump isn’t our candidate. He’s our murder weapon”

Hehehehe, Well put.


14 posted on 02/14/2016 12:00:55 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: TexasCajun
Thanks for showing that videoclip.

That was good for at least 10 points for Trump in the polls as voters got to see the human side of Trump.

Hopefully we will see an encore.

15 posted on 02/14/2016 12:04:18 PM PST by SamAdams76 (Delegates So Far: Trump (17); Cruz (11); Rubio (10)
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To: TexasCajun

This wasn’t even necessary for Mr. Trump. Donald Trump got the numbers and the city wrong, but there were substantial demonstrations in Patterson, New Jersey after the towers fell on 9/11. The celebrations in Jersey City were smaller.


16 posted on 02/14/2016 12:09:55 PM PST by Stepan12 (Our present appeasementof Islam is the Stockholm Syndrome on steroids.)
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To: Louis Foxwell

“Is Trump a trustworthy flag carrier for traditional Americanism? Perhaps.”

Ohhhhhhhhhhh yeah. No reason to look for an alternative there. Maybe we should go with a blindfold and a dartboard.


17 posted on 02/14/2016 12:10:17 PM PST by jessduntno (The mind of a liberal...deceit, desire for control, greed, contradiction and fueled by hate.)
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To: Louis Foxwell

I like him but he blew one thing. He said the average republican voter isn’t a policy expert.

That’s pure USDA prime, gold plated, bullshit. We have had our faces ground into policy like a dog into a mess on the carpet. We hump the hills, have ass in the grass, drove unsecure MSRs in Iraq, get ignored at the VA, have family killed by Mexicans, had grandmother heads sawed off in Oklahoma, daughters shot on the wharf in San Fran, been shot to pieces in San Berdoo by crazed dune coons, can’t run a marathon in Boston, had the skinnies from Blackhawk down kick us out of cabs in Minneapolis, seen a bacchanal of homesexuality in our schools, watched our astronauts have to hitch rides on Russian spaceships, watched baby parts being sold, had our emails all stolen and read.

Do we know policy Mr Sultan who I love? F’ing A bet your assets on it. We are F’ing policy experts!
Is just that we utterly hate the policy, so they say we don’t understand.


18 posted on 02/14/2016 12:10:57 PM PST by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,")
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To: TexasCajun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0n1Yns6DLyM


19 posted on 02/14/2016 12:15:32 PM PST by Catsrus (I callz 'em as I seez 'em)
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To: Louis Foxwell

Immigration and Islamic infiltration are the only things that matter, all else derives from that topic area.

We can win philosophical and policy arguments all day long forever, but if whites continue to dwindle away, our principles will never again prevail in elections here because we are being replaced. Demographics = destiny.


20 posted on 02/14/2016 12:23:14 PM PST by IChing
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