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1 posted on 03/21/2016 8:55:40 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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Case in point.


2 posted on 03/21/2016 8:58:39 AM PDT by JoSixChip (Ted Cruz (R-Goldman Sachs) - He's creepy and he's kooky, mysterious and spooky)
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Just remember, these are the courts that said if you grow a crop and consume it all in one state, it is still interstate commerce. These are the courts that said as long as the baby’s head is inside the mother it is not murder to kill the baby. These are the courts who said that to say a prayer in a public school was establishing religion. These are the courts who said that marriage must not be defined as between one man and one woman. So if you liked those decisions, you probably like this one.


3 posted on 03/21/2016 8:58:55 AM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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More discussion here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3411529/posts


4 posted on 03/21/2016 8:59:21 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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This was already Posted last week and beat into the ground.


5 posted on 03/21/2016 8:59:32 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (There is nothing Democratic about the Democrat Party. (Or the GOPe))
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Already posted by conservative joy....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3411529/posts

Very easily found on Search.


6 posted on 03/21/2016 8:59:42 AM PDT by Jane Long (Go Trump, go! Make America Safe Again :)
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BS! Bet the “judge” is voting for Cruz or Hillery.


7 posted on 03/21/2016 9:00:33 AM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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Is Judge Pellegrini one of those judges who does what the guys tell him too?

The plan would be to toss Cruz out after he was nominated. It would be pointless for Hillary, Soros, and the bros. to do it any earlier.


8 posted on 03/21/2016 9:00:47 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Cruz will never see the presidency. It would only take one judge in one state to have the issue be a question. It was up to Cruz to get a definitive agreed-upon statement of eligibility.

About the only thing I'll ever give McCain credit for is that he got something passed in DC that defined him as eligible before before he ran, and that because he was born on US-controlled soil. Even Obama acknowledged that he had to produce a paper that said he was born in the USA.

11 posted on 03/21/2016 9:03:15 AM PDT by grania
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Who is this guy? Doesn't he know there are a bunch of posters on Free Republic, with no legal knowledge, who disagree. Did this clown refer to any blogs on the Internet? How can this stand? /s
12 posted on 03/21/2016 9:03:59 AM PDT by Iowa David
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Ummm...except it was the Dems who challenged eligibility in Pa.


17 posted on 03/21/2016 9:12:02 AM PDT by SueRae (An election like no other..)
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http://harvardlawreview.org/2015/03/on-the-meaning-of-natural-born-citizen/

As was the case in British law at the time of the writing of the Constitution, there is no doubt that Cruz is a natural born citizen of the US.


18 posted on 03/21/2016 9:12:12 AM PDT by mak5
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Let me help some of you folks. The “Commonwealth court of Pennsylvania” means absolutely nothing . The reason Trump laid off “Foreign Bord “ didqualification under Article II is because Cruz is out of this nomination fight. He is irrelevant. He doesn’t have the will of the people.
Federal issues are not ruled on by state lower court partisan judges. Never. In a dream , if Cruz won. hillary will have him enjoined because he is foreign born in a week!! IN THE FEDERAL COURT OF HER CHOOSING.But we don’t have to worry about that. Cruz is not our nominee. Trump will be our nominee or the voting will of the people will be raped.


19 posted on 03/21/2016 9:12:38 AM PDT by WENDLE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgIhGgrhQeE)
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“The judge relies on several pieces of legal scholarship. First, a memo produced in 1968 by Charles Gordon, then the General Counsel of the United States Immigration and Naturalization Service, which says: “The Framers were well aware of the need to assure full citizenship rights to the children born to American citizens in foreign countries.” He also points out a 2011 Congressional Research Service Memo entitled the “Qualification for President and the ‘Natural Born’ Citizenship Eligibility Requirement.”

As a long lapsed lawyer I can tell you that the value of this as a legal argument is less than a warm bucket of spit. It’s the equivalent of saying 2d Division Vet said this or that. But it has to be gone through in order to get to the heart of the matter. Perhaps someday we might...


22 posted on 03/21/2016 9:16:47 AM PDT by major-pelham
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Duplicate of http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3411529/posts


23 posted on 03/21/2016 9:17:46 AM PDT by Cboldt
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There is a significant chance of the Supreme Court cheating Cruz.

Oxford Dictionary Second Edition

Volume X page 245

“1709 Act 7 Anne c. 5...The Children of all natural-born subjects, born out of the Liegeance of her Majesty...shall be deemed...to be natural-born Subjects of this Kingdom.”

That 1709 law was I believe what the founders would have gone by. Anne was Queen of England in 1709.

Anne’s law supports Cruz.

The 14th Amendment might be construed adversely:
“All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.”

Cruz wasn’t born in the USA. So arguably under the 14th Amendment (alone), he would have to gain citizenship by naturalization.

Cruz could reduce the chance of this by having as a Vice President the leftist Supreme Court members despise - Trump.

My view of the 14th Amendment would just apply it the (freed) blacks in the USA and their offspring, just the people it was intended to help.


25 posted on 03/21/2016 9:18:18 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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With all of the non-stop coverage of the 2016 presidential election, have you noticed as of late that Donald Trump has not said a peep about Ted Cruz not being eligible for the presidency?

Well, to be fair, Trump is probably still deciding how he feels about the matter today. As opposed to yesterday, last week, last month, last year...

26 posted on 03/21/2016 9:18:58 AM PDT by gdani (I. Do. Not. Vote. For. Liberals.)
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It ain’t law until the fat lady (SCOTUS) sings and she isn’t even tuned up yet.


30 posted on 03/21/2016 9:22:07 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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Until the left goes legal on the the issue! Then this decision will be mute!


39 posted on 03/21/2016 9:36:39 AM PDT by Lopeover (2016 Election is about allegiance to the United States)
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Raul: Please, please, don’t hold Obama for ransom!


40 posted on 03/21/2016 9:36:40 AM PDT by Does so (Europeans had better start "overstaying their visas" in the USA. ==8-O)
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I think most folks who’ve studied this agree that by current law Ted Cruz will be found eligible to run for the presidency in a fair court.

In our day, the legal system views ‘citizen at birth’ and ‘natural born citizen’ to be one and the same thing. It’s hard to escape that fact.

However, these contests can be held in just about every state, and there is probably some judge or judges before whom this could come who will view it differently for political or other reasons.

But that’s not really the issue to me. To me the issue is that just a year and a half ago, Ted Cruz was a Canadian citizen. He will be our first foreign born president who is a dual citizen, and although he recently dropped the Canadian part, there’s really nothing blocking him from taking up his Canadian citizenship again some day.

There’s something about that that doesn’t ring WISE to me about that.


45 posted on 03/21/2016 9:44:22 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Prayer for Victory is the ONLY way to support the troops!)
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