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How I would close Guantanamo
Rand Koch blog ^ | June 9, 2016 | Rand Koch

Posted on 06/09/2016 4:45:50 PM PDT by HarborSentry

My plan for closing Guantanamo would be rather different than President Obama's.

I would first restrict the detainees' access to news, and then stop their lawyer visits.

Then I'd feed them fake news. Make it look like Hillary wins the election, and that Al Qaeda is winning the war on terror. Make them think the war is ending, and Al Qaeda is victorious. Give them better food, and more benefits, as we're ostensibly remorseful.

Tell them they'll all be leaving soon, now that the war is ending. Promise each of them millions of dollars in reparations upon their return to the new Caliphate.

Our guards will need to audition so that they can act suitably humble.

Park a 747 at the airfield with a black-and-white color scheme suitable for an Al Qaeda airline.

Finally, tell them the truth. Guantanamo is not closing. They're not going home. Maybe, if we're lucky, President Trump can deliver this news personally. Take away all the new benefits we gave them. Make Guantanamo worse than ever before.

Like Trump, I see no reason to close Guantanamo. The war's not over yet.

The critics can whine all they want, but my idea isn't really all that much worse than telling people you're going to “close Guantanamo” when you're really only planning to move it to a prison in the U.S. — the Obama plan.

It's a pity they don't do stuff like this in real life. Not precisely, anyway.


I am aware of one trick they did, reported in the file of detainee Jamal Al-Harith (ISN 490):

[D]uring a recent PSYOP/JDOG experiment in Camp Delta called “Dining Out” (where ethnic food was prepared for a select group of detainees), the detainee was noticed calling out to other detainees in other blocks that the food tasted just like that from a restaurant in Jedda, Saudi Arabia. According to the detainee's story, he has never been to Saudi Arabia.

Al-Harith was released to the U.K. in 2004. He told stories of being served old food and dirty water — and the beatings. The human rights movement repeated those stories without a hint of skepticism. The British government gave him one million pounds for all his trouble.

The money must have run out. His last reported location was in Syria, where he now resides as a member of ISIS.


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And that 747 painted in Al Qaeda colors? I'd get a retired one from the mothball fleet. Blow it up right in front of their eyes.
1 posted on 06/09/2016 4:45:50 PM PDT by HarborSentry
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To: HarborSentry

Execute them. Bury them at sea. Be done with it in a weekend


2 posted on 06/09/2016 4:50:17 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: HarborSentry

Give them a military tribunal where they are charged with murder and terrorism. Cover them with pig’s blood then execute them and bury them with pig carcasses.


3 posted on 06/09/2016 5:25:06 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Socialism is always just one or a thousand or a million more murders away from utopia.)
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To: HarborSentry

Just before World War I, there were a number of terrorist attacks
on the United States forces in the Philippines by Muslim extremists.
So General Pershing captured 50 terrorists and had them tied to posts for execution.
He then had his men bring in two pigs and slaughter them in front of the now horrified
terrorists. Muslims detest pork because they believe pigs are filthy animals. Some of them simply refuse to eat it, while others won’t even touch pigs at all, nor any of their by-products. To them, eating or touching a pig, its meat, its blood, etc., is to be instantly barred from paradise (and those virgins) and doomed to hell. The soldiers then soaked their bullets in pigs blood, and proceeded to execute 49 of the terrorists by firing squad. The soldiers then dug a big hole, dumped in the terrorist’s bodies and covered them in pig blood, entrails, etc. They let the 50th man go. And for the next forty-two years, there was not a single Muslim extremist attack anywhere in the world.


4 posted on 06/09/2016 5:27:10 PM PDT by markearl
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To: HarborSentry

Don’t close it. Add Hillary to the inmate population.


5 posted on 06/09/2016 5:32:59 PM PDT by r_barton (GO TRUMP!!!)
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To: HarborSentry
The idea of closing GITMO is insane to begin with. The human manure still in there are a blight upon humanity. Here's a short list of some the few that could be released: Abu Faraj al-Libi Libyan. In Guantánamo since September 2006 Promoted to be operational chief of al-Qaida in both Afghanistan and Iraq, after capture of ‘KSM’ (Khalid Sheikh Mohammed). Captured by Pakistan in 2005. Planned to assassinate President Musharraf of Pakistan. “Has knowledge of al-Qaida possibly possessing a nuclear bomb. Ramzi bin al-Shibh Yemeni. In Guantánamo since September 2006 The alleged co-ordinator of the entire 9/11 plot from a base in Germany, who was picked up by Pakistan in a raid on a house in Karachi in 2002. Claimed to have also planned with Khalid Sheikh Mohammed in June 2002 to crash a hijacked plane into Heathrow airport, London. Majid Khan Pakistani. In Guantánamo since September 2006 Allegedly tasked by ‘KSM’ to poison water reservoirs and blow up multiple fuel stations on the US mainland ‘as well as a project targeting nuclear reactors’. He was termed a ‘willing suicide operative’ who delivered funds for a 2003 Marriott hotel bombing in Jakarta. Mohd Farik Bin Amin Malaysian, detained in Guantánamo since September 2006 Arrested leaving a bookstore in Thailand in 2003, he is called a senior al-Qaida operative who swore an oath of allegiance to Osama bin Laden. Targeted the UK embassy in Cambodia and helped with an abortive ‘west coast airliners plot’ in the US to crash a plane into ‘the tallest building in California’. Captured computer allegedly contained images of the Space Needle in Seattle and bomb diagrams. Trained in camps in Afganistan. Allegedly tried to buy a surface-to-air missile. Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Pakistani, detained in Guantánamo since September 2006. The alleged mastermind behind the attacks of 11 September 2001, he is said by US forces to have ‘described himself as the head of al-Qaida’s military committee’. His file alleges he planned the destruction of the Brooklyn Bridge, the collapse of a Chicago apartment block and destruction of a US hotel or fuel station as follow-ups to the September 2001 attacks. He is one of 16 ‘high-value’ detainees transferred to Guantánamo to stand trial. Abd al-Rahim Hussein Muhammad Abdah al-Nashiri Yemeni, detained in Guantánamo since September 2006 Believed by US forces to be ‘one of the highest-ranking, most skilled and dangerous al-Qaida operatives captured to date’, al-Nashiri is allegedly a key Bin Laden aide. His file details an alleged plot to attack a UK base on the Gibraltar – with the target chosen after being featured on a ‘news documentary’. His notes stress excellent contacts with ‘Yemeni tribes and Yemeni security -services’ which were used to provide documents and cover for extremists. And the idiot wants to release these creatures? They know nothing but terrorism and will repeat. They have held their trials off so that if they move them to US soil, their rights change to those of us citizens, which they aren't, and not military combatants which they are. You don't end the fire by throwing gasoline on it. red
6 posted on 06/09/2016 5:43:19 PM PDT by Redwood71
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To: HarborSentry

1. Shoot them all.

2. THERE IS NO #2.


7 posted on 06/09/2016 5:44:37 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (This posting is a microaggression.)
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To: Uncle Miltie

The base is expensive. Offer it back to Cuba for the overthrow of the Castros.


8 posted on 06/09/2016 5:55:57 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Put blood on the bullets? I say use bow and arrows to kill the pigs. pull them out and use them again-slower death. M I sick?


9 posted on 06/09/2016 5:57:42 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: HarborSentry

That all of them were not hanged at 11:59 am on 1/20/09 is a travesty.


10 posted on 06/09/2016 5:59:33 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Cruz never could have outfought Trump.But I didn't know until this day that it was Romney all along.)
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To: 2banana

A friend of mine has a large fishing vessel. He said he would transport the detainees back to their homeland—that he could probably make six trips a day.


11 posted on 06/09/2016 6:01:31 PM PDT by Joe Bfstplk (Proud member, The Vast Right Wing Conspiracy.)
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To: r_barton
>> Don’t close it. Add Hillary to the inmate population. <<

And their lawyers.

12 posted on 06/09/2016 9:26:42 PM PDT by HarborSentry
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To: Redwood71

True, but even Obama wasn’t going to release most of those guys. Or rather, none of his Defense Secretaries would have.

Five of them (including KSM, but not all in your list) had decided they’d plead guilty and take the death penalty in December 2008. Sadly, it’s after Obama tried to restart everything that they decided to go through the trial.


13 posted on 06/09/2016 9:27:20 PM PDT by HarborSentry
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To: markearl; Blood of Tyrants

We really do need to do this.

But perhaps they should first pray over the fate of the pigs. Those pigs will deserve a lot more respect than the terrorists do.


14 posted on 06/09/2016 9:27:48 PM PDT by HarborSentry
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To: Uncle Miltie

Or nuke every territory that Al Qaeda and ISIS are claiming, but leave them alive to fret over it.


15 posted on 06/09/2016 9:28:26 PM PDT by HarborSentry
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To: HarborSentry
Expand the facility. Trump can certainly help oversee that project.

Round up the many thousands of corrupt people in agencies like the IRS, EPA, DOJ, etc. and lock them up.

16 posted on 06/09/2016 9:29:13 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Jim Noble

There would have been a sort-of symmetry with the 1981 Iran hostage trade deal happening during the ceremony. It would almost have been poetic.


17 posted on 06/09/2016 9:30:04 PM PDT by HarborSentry
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To: HarborSentry

HarborSentry,

I have absolutely no trust in anything Obama does. Like I mentioned in my post, his entire intent to close GITMO is based in my mind upon the idea of changing the process from military tribunal, where it is supposed to be, to a civilianized court proceeding to change the rules in favor of the offender. He is taking the enemy of this country, not a citizen, and affording them the rights and privileges of our Constitution and laws they do not deserve as combatants.

red


18 posted on 06/10/2016 8:51:14 AM PDT by Redwood71
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To: 2banana
Execute them. Bury them at sea. Be done with it in a weekend

And from now on, take no prisoners.

19 posted on 06/10/2016 11:24:10 AM PDT by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
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To: Redwood71

I agree, but I think it’s worse than that. The Constitution is irrelevant to him.

The funny part is that Obama and the Supreme Court both proved that Guantanamo is legal. We always knew it was legal, but it’s harder for the left to dispute it now. Both of them wound up going along with indefinite detention.

The sad part is that Obama really is capable of doing a lot worse. I think he would do more harm as soon as there is something to be gained by it for the left. January 20th cannot come soon enough.


20 posted on 06/11/2016 4:01:33 PM PDT by HarborSentry
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