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How socialist governments deal with unemployment: GENOCIDE
mainestategop ^ | Brian Ball and Reuban Ben Abraham

Posted on 07/12/2016 6:59:51 AM PDT by mainestategop

One of the biggest arguments made by liberals in favor of socialist government is the lack of unemployment. Unemployment levels according to liberals was zero in the USSR under Stalin and in Germany under Hitler. You would think, "Gosh! All I have to do is give up my constitutional liberties and let the state take care of me and my problems are over!"

But not so fast! It never occurred to supporters of socialism just how they were able to do it!

They didn't do it by giving everyone a job that paid. They did it through the enslavement and/or extermination of those who were unemployed and could not find jobs for as well as the extermination of those who could not work due to disability or old age.

In addition, those who could work found themselves exiled to barren and uninhabitalble regions where only shovel ready jobs were available.

In the USSR for instance, those who could not find jobs in Moscow, Kiev, Leningrad and other metropolitan regions found themselves whisked away from friends, home and loved ones to the wilderness to work on collective farms or cutting down trees in forests. Others were set up with false accusations of treason and sedition and sent to the Gulag in Siberia.

In Germany is was just as bad if not worse. Under Project T4 to save money, the German government had the old and the retarded killed off. This was made possible with the consent of the German people who believed everything the government told them such as that people with disabilities being a blight to humanity and that the old were worthy of death.

Even the anthem of the Hitler youth, the rattling of the old bones is a prelude to genocide of the elderly and the feeble. Old men and women who lived industrious productive and moral lives found themselves at the mercy of the waffen SS.

Those who were able bodied and able working but for whom there were no jobs available were taken to camps such as Dachau and Buchenwald to work as slaves. Worked to death along side Jews, Gypsies, Jehovah's Witnesses and others all for the crime of being unemployed. Others were forcibly conscripted into the military and used as fodder for the coming war.

Say what you want capitalism is superior to Socialism (The marxian soviet model as well as the Nationalistic Hitlerite model) in aiding the unemployed and the poor. To encourage settlement in an otherwise unforgiving wasteland such as the deserts of America and the midwest, the government provided incentives for land ownership, mining rights and other perks for settlers who were willing to risk their lives and do hard work. Some died but many succeeded and prospered!

For the unemployed, there are Christian charities to help them find employment or to provide travel assistance to areas of the country where jobs are more plentyful such as the Mid-west or the South.

Many of these incentives are perfectly constitutional and provide incentives to work rather than leech off the system the way liberal would ask of us to do. Fatten us up for the slaughter...

So there again, socialism fails, capitalism wins!!


TOPICS: Government; History; Reference
KEYWORDS: democide; fascism; genocide; hitler; holocaust; liberalfascism; poverty; purge; socialism; stalin; unemployment
Other thoughts Reuben and a few fans of my blog brought up...

First, Even if you do get a job in socialism its more likely one you don't want. Its also probably a job you'll suck at and one that is dangerous. If and when you F**K up, they usually say its your fault and gulag you or kill you. Government after all to socialists is infallible. In fact its God.

Second, wages are the same regardless whether you're a janitor or a scientist. There's no incentive to do the jobs. Placement is usually not based on merit but a labor lottery. A janitor who simply sweeps the halls of say the Gumshoe department store or some government office building in Moscow will go home after his shift with the same pay as a man who busts a gut at a steel mill or as an air traffic controller or say an architect. There is no real incentive for students to learn skills or achieve anything or even to invent. There is no profit motive and you do not have the time or freedom to put your ideas on paper. Have to go to work.

BTW, while we Americans used to work 40 hrs a week, in the USSR and China its even longer. In China for instance 120 hours. Some workers have to put in shifts for 24 hrs. One woman died and all she got was $134 a month in wages.

third problem as I said is no profit motive. I pretty much covered most of it already but I want to bring up something. Profit to a socialist is considered theft by executives. Meanwhile in socialist countries, 0.001% of the population, the heads of the state and the party enjoy unbelievable wealth.

The lifestyles of the heads of China are greater than our own CEOS whereas, in America, low income earners at McDs and BK and others who make just under the poverty limit enjoy a far greater lifestyle than China's middle class or what would've been the middle class in Russia during the days of the USSR.

Also two people summed up why socialism failed big time! Mahatma Gandhi and Pope St. John Paul 2nd:

The mahatma:A Nation's greatness is measured in how it treats its weakest members...

St John Paul 2:a nation that kills its own children is a nation without hope.

While Stalin sez: Death is the solution to all problems! No man, No problem!

Hitler:How fortunate for governments that the people they administer do not think!

In socialist countries like Germany, they offed the sick and the weak. Europe and Australia also does this. They have forced sterilizations, abortions of the retarded and euthanasia. Its also been happening in the USA for some time as well and getting worse.

Dehumanist Europe is now worse off now than they were under despotic kings of the dark ages. They have not gotten better. They may be economically better than they were 100 years ago (thanks to America paying for their military I might add) they may have advanced technologically but they have discarded morality or what little they had. The church is powerless and irrevevant in the new Europe and its getting that way here too.

1 posted on 07/12/2016 6:59:51 AM PDT by mainestategop
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To: mainestategop

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2 posted on 07/12/2016 7:01:45 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("It's okay to commit felonies as long as breaking the law isn't your primary objective." James Comey)
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To: mainestategop
How socialist governments deal with unemployment: GENOCIDE

The future of the No-Longer-Useful Idiot.

3 posted on 07/12/2016 7:05:26 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (America, a Rule of Mob nation)
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To: mainestategop

Which is why Bishop Romney and Caliph Obama
IMPOSED RomneyCARE/ObamaCARE —
and why the stinking, hated, GOP left THEMSELVES
and their families EXEMPT (and Moslems, of course).


4 posted on 07/12/2016 7:08:15 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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To: mainestategop

Slaves are fully employed and the dead aren’t counted. Problem solved.


5 posted on 07/12/2016 7:08:21 AM PDT by ArcadeQuarters ("Immigration Reform" is ballot stuffing)
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To: BinaryBoy

Couldnt have said it better myself.


6 posted on 07/12/2016 7:08:48 AM PDT by 556x45
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To: Navy Patriot
If there was a reason to avoid welfare its that! Once this economy gets really and I mean REALLY out of hand, they'll take every welfare bum and render them into dog food. By this time the left will be in total control and the media and the so called "rights" groups wont say a word about it.

Whenever I think of occupy wall street and Zuccoti park, I think of a Churchill quote about appeasement and crocodiles. Whether the pampered brats there knew it or not, they were setting themselves up for chow.

7 posted on 07/12/2016 7:09:43 AM PDT by mainestategop (Don’t Let Freedom Slip Away! After America , There is No Place to Go)
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To: mainestategop

The Purge is based on this in part.


8 posted on 07/12/2016 7:42:29 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: mainestategop
The Purge in Russia wasn't people out of work. They where paid professionals. Doctors, lawyers, teachers and the like.

Marx said it best. To control the masses you must destroy the rich and the poor. Engels made that clear regarding the when he said in war to destroy the poor.

9 posted on 07/12/2016 8:08:06 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: mainestategop
Please note especially the first paragraph highlighted and quoted below from the Liberty Fund Library "A Plea for Liberty: An Argument Against Socialism and Socialistic Legislation," edited by Thomas Mackay (1849 - 1912), Chapter 1, final paragraphs from Edward Stanley Robertson's essay, "The Impracticability of Socialism":

Note the writer's emphasis that the "scheme of Socialism" requires what he calls "the power of restraining the increase in population"--long the essential and primary focus of the Democrat Party in the U. S.:

"I have suggested that the scheme of Socialism is wholly incomplete unless it includes a power of restraining the increase of population, which power is so unwelcome to Englishmen that the very mention of it seems to require an apology. I have showed that in France, where restraints on multiplication have been adopted into the popular code of morals, there is discontent on the one hand at the slow rate of increase, while on the other, there is still a 'proletariat,' and Socialism is still a power in politics.
I.44
"I have put the question, how Socialism would treat the residuum of the working class and of all classes—the class, not specially vicious, nor even necessarily idle, but below the average in power of will and in steadiness of purpose. I have intimated that such persons, if they belong to the upper or middle classes, are kept straight by the fear of falling out of class, and in the working class by positive fear of want. But since Socialism purposes to eliminate the fear of want, and since under Socialism the hierarchy of classes will either not exist at all or be wholly transformed, there remains for such persons no motive at all except physical coercion. Are we to imprison or flog all the 'ne'er-do-wells'?
I.45
"I began this paper by pointing out that there are inequalities and anomalies in the material world, some of which, like the obliquity of the ecliptic and the consequent inequality of the day's length, cannot be redressed at all. Others, like the caprices of sunshine and rainfall in different climates, can be mitigated, but must on the whole be endured. I am very far from asserting that the inequalities and anomalies of human society are strictly parallel with those of material nature. I fully admit that we are under an obligation to control nature so far as we can. But I think I have shown that the Socialist scheme cannot be relied upon to control nature, because it refuses to obey her. Socialism attempts to vanquish nature by a front attack. Individualism, on the contrary, is the recognition, in social politics, that nature has a beneficent as well as a malignant side. The struggle for life provides for the various wants of the human race, in somewhat the same way as the climatic struggle of the elements provides for vegetable and animal life—imperfectly, that is, and in a manner strongly marked by inequalities and anomalies. By taking advantage of prevalent tendencies, it is possible to mitigate these anomalies and inequalities, but all experience shows that it is impossible to do away with them. All history, moreover, is the record of the triumph of Individualism over something which was virtually Socialism or Collectivism, though not called by that name. In early days, and even at this day under archaic civilisations, the note of social life is the absence of freedom. But under every progressive civilisation, freedom has made decisive strides—broadened down, as the poet says, from precedent to precedent. And it has been rightly and naturally so.
I.46
"Freedom is the most valuable of all human possessions, next after life itself. It is more valuable, in a manner, than even health. No human agency can secure health; but good laws, justly administered, can and do secure freedom. Freedom, indeed, is almost the only thing that law can secure. Law cannot secure equality, nor can it secure prosperity. In the direction of equality, all that law can do is to secure fair play, which is equality of rights but is not equality of conditions. In the direction of prosperity, all that law can do is to keep the road open. That is the Quintessence of Individualism, and it may fairly challenge comparison with that Quintessence of Socialism we have been discussing. Socialism, disguise it how we may, is the negation of Freedom. That it is so, and that it is also a scheme not capable of producing even material comfort in exchange for the abnegations of Freedom, I think the foregoing considerations amply prove."
EDWARD STANLEY ROBERTSON

10 posted on 07/12/2016 8:53:23 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: Steve Van Doorn

The Purge in Russia were also the peasants and farmers in The Ukraine.


11 posted on 07/12/2016 8:54:35 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; mainestategop
The Black Book of Communism: Crimes, Terror, Repression .

As the death toll mounts―as many as 25 million in the former Soviet Union, 65 million in China, 1.7 million in Cambodia, and on and on―the authors systematically show how and why, wherever the millenarian ideology of Communism was established, it quickly led to crime, terror, and repression. An extraordinary accounting, this book amply documents the unparalleled position and significance of Communism in the hierarchy of violence that is the history of the twentieth century.

12 posted on 07/12/2016 8:56:35 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Navy Patriot

The idiot socialists in this country, however, would kill the working tax payers (i.e. conservatives) because we disagree with them politically. Then they will be left with nothing but the moochers.


13 posted on 07/12/2016 9:21:46 AM PDT by No Socialist
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To: Navy Patriot

The idiot socialists in this country, however, would kill the working tax payers (i.e. conservatives) because we disagree with them politically. Then they will be left with nothing but the moochers.


14 posted on 07/12/2016 9:21:46 AM PDT by No Socialist
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To: Navy Patriot

Killing off the useless eaters has been policy in many cultures.


15 posted on 07/12/2016 10:10:23 AM PDT by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
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To: mainestategop

bkmk


16 posted on 07/12/2016 1:49:31 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44 (If you ain't the lead dog, the scenery never changes.)
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To: dfwgator

very true


17 posted on 07/12/2016 5:02:14 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: JimRed
said, "Killing off the useless eaters has been policy in many cultures"

The regressive left have been known to kill off the producers. The great purge Russia, Venezuela, Castro, North Korea and so on. Look at the Feng Gong whom did nothing at all wrong so far the count is up to 1.5 million people killed by Chinese government figures as of a few days ago.

Anyone can be their target.

18 posted on 07/12/2016 5:26:34 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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