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H. L. Mencken Predicted Donald Trump, the Enlightened Rabble-Rouser
Vox Populi ^ | June 1922 | H. L. Mencken

Posted on 07/26/2016 12:25:25 PM PDT by poconopundit

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To: ek_hornbeck
Good commentary.

On the Friedrich Nietzsche point, I think Mencken would find in Trump strong parallels to Nietsche's "Super Man" concept -- given Trump's career across many fronts: real estate, hotels, golf courses, television, publishing, and now politics.

21 posted on 07/26/2016 1:59:23 PM PDT by poconopundit (When the people shall become so corrupted as to need despotic government. Franklin, Const. Conv.)
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To: Ohioan
I read through a lot of the first speech of Reed's in the Senate and it's quite a prescient speech that talks quite a bit about colonialism and its relationship to globalism,

Lots of great commentary to finish reading later on. Thanks.

Reed is quite the politician. Honest, articulate, predicts the future. He's a duck out of water in Congress :- )

22 posted on 07/26/2016 2:21:14 PM PDT by poconopundit (When the people shall become so corrupted as to need despotic government. Franklin, Const. Conv.)
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To: poconopundit
H.L. Mencken, along with Eric Hoffer, was one of the most amazing 20th-century American thinkers, on par with Abraham Lincoln and Benjamin Franklin in 19th and 18th century, respectively. The thing that all four men had in common, which is uniquely-American, is they were all autodidacts, or self-made men, instead being factory outputs of some college or university. Unfortunately, America has no use for self-made sages anymore.
23 posted on 07/26/2016 2:45:47 PM PDT by Trentamj
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To: Trentamj
Interesting. My Dad was a big enthusiast of Eric Hoffer.

I had to look up the term autodidact and I found an interesting article about it: The Self-Taught Master: How To Become An Autodidact.

It's much easier to self-educate yourself these days with all the resources on line. I learned object oriented programming without taking a course on the subject. But I ran into an international forum and people at the other end were more than happy to give advice. You could ask questions and get replies very fast. So it's not just the text, but also the support networks are out there.

And as I think back on it, I actually didn't learn that much in my college courses because it was something I had to do -- not something I wanted to do.

So I am working today at the library and just picked up a book by Eric Hoffer. Thanks for the recommendation :- )

24 posted on 07/26/2016 5:14:12 PM PDT by poconopundit (When the people shall become so corrupted as to need despotic government. Franklin, Const. Conv.)
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To: teeman8r
"i never thought i would see a guy who had worse hair than donald trump.

What about HIllary Clinton?

25 posted on 07/26/2016 5:35:52 PM PDT by tinyowl (A equals A)
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To: poconopundit

This is a great read - thanks Poco. He’s one of my favorites.


26 posted on 07/26/2016 5:48:59 PM PDT by tinyowl (A equals A)
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To: poconopundit
I'll never understand why so many conservatives admire H.L. Mencken, the original slanderer of rural Southern fundamentalists.

No healthy movement can admire both poor rural Southern fundamentalists and the man who called them "gaping primates who believe degraded nonsense."

27 posted on 07/26/2016 6:27:46 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Sof davar hakol nishma`; 'et-ha'Eloqim yera' ve'et-mitzvotayv shemor, ki-zeh kol-ha'adam.)
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To: ek_hornbeck

Thanks for the information, but it’s very difficult for me to reconcile that contempt with libertarian thoughts. Nietzche is also someone whose thoughts sound very liberal/progressive, mostly I guess because of the amorality.

I’m more of a St. Thomas Aquinas, kinda gal. A philosophy student that I met once told me that Nietzche saw himself as a Protestant Aquinas. So I guess even the intelligentsia don’t think entirely for themselves. Then they condemn people who support those who either think like them or can communicate successfully to them. Wah!!! Buncha crybabies ;)


28 posted on 07/26/2016 6:28:40 PM PDT by gspurlock (http://www.backyardfence.wordpress.com)
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To: poconopundit

bkmk


29 posted on 07/26/2016 9:35:26 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44 (If you ain't the lead dog, the scenery never changes.)
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To: poconopundit
FRiends, an essay by H. L. Mencken that will enlighten and make you laugh.

I would say it would more bore you and make you wonder at the type of people who take this kind of thing seriously.

But then I have always found Nazi sympathizers puzzling and just a bit dim.

30 posted on 07/26/2016 9:50:47 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: gspurlock
Thanks for the information, but it’s very difficult for me to reconcile that contempt with libertarian thoughts. Nietzche is also someone whose thoughts sound very liberal/progressive, mostly I guess because of the amorality.

This is because people tend to equate religiosity with conservative thought and atheism/irreligion with liberalism and socialism. This wasn't always the case. For example, Mencken's nemesis William Jennings Bryan championed both religious fundamentalism and egalitarian causes, which was hardly atypical at the time. The association of fundamentalist religion with the political Right is a fairly recent phenomenon in the US, less so in the UK, and not at all in continental Europe.

The fundamental divide between Right and Left has always been about whether one believes in some form of natural inequality vs. thinking that any non-egalitarian society is an artifact of our institutions, something that can be done away with through the right type of social engineering. Both egalitarians and anti-egalitarians had religious and non-religious people in their ranks. From this definition, the agnostic or atheist Spencer, Nietzsche, and Mencken (or, to contemporary audiences, a more familiar example would be Ayn Rand) were clearly Right-wingers.

31 posted on 07/27/2016 5:03:10 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: poconopundit

Supposedly the dumbest 10% of voters decide the outcome of national elections, no matter the outcome, pub or dem, con or lib. So a very high % of campaign money is meant to sway the swing voters, the ones who reliably manage to vote, but will vote one way and then another and usually can’t give a rational reason as to why. It could be a debate flub, or really well attended rally, or liking or not liking how someone looks. And getting these folks to vote your way is supposedly the key to victory, along with things like suppressing the vote of the suppressible.

We haven’t had 65% eligible voter turnout since 1908. Most of the time it has been much less than that. But maybe that is a good thing. If turnout was higher, I suspect it would only result in a higher % of swing voters. I suppose that could potentially be really good or bad, like flipping a coin 10 times and accidentally ending up with a conservative utopia or a liberal dystopia.

Freegards


32 posted on 07/27/2016 5:19:18 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: poconopundit
Who really cares?!! TRUMP is the strong leader I've been praying for. There is much faith and trust placed in this Man of the People.

If he manages to win this and proceed to change our country back to that which was envisioned by our FF, he will have my deepest gratitude, commitment and loyalty.

Mr. Trump, WTP are watching you, moving forward with you. Please, sir, don't let us down and don't allow our country to be swallowed by those that wish to see us go down and under.

TRiUMPh

33 posted on 07/27/2016 2:52:54 PM PDT by V K Lee (u TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP to TRIUMPH Follow the lead MAKE AMERICA GREAT)
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To: poconopundit

Thanks for the ping, Pocono.

Of course, what was written earlier is not intended as a slap. However, it does indicate a bit of tired and weary on this part. It’s been quite a year and will be a roller coaster ride for the next few months. Onward and upward.

Again...WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS!! — and once again, Thank You Mr. Trump.


34 posted on 07/27/2016 3:21:08 PM PDT by V K Lee (u TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP to TRIUMPH Follow the lead MAKE AMERICA GREAT)
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To: poconopundit

bmk


35 posted on 10/24/2016 9:41:49 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: poconopundit

bmk


36 posted on 10/24/2016 9:43:20 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: WMarshal
How country club Republican of you.

What, exactly?
Not enough intellectual horsepower there to refute, but resorting to hit and run (and incompetent) vacuous words?

There are certainly many Freepers we could get well enough without.

37 posted on 08/28/2018 11:33:47 AM PDT by publius911 (Rule by Fiat-Obama's a Phone and a Pen)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Note: this topic is from 07/26/2016. Thanks poconopundit.

38 posted on 06/30/2020 1:42:05 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Liz; SunkenCiv; LS; alloysteel; V K Lee
Liz, Mencken's command of the smart one-liner is unparalleled.  Pure genius.  He's a FReeper fortisimo

In his heyday, Mencken was the most widely read columnist in the country, and at the same time was also the foremost literary critic.  He helped made F. Scott Fitzgerald (Great Gatsy) famous, for example.

Just now, visiting Mencken's quotes on Wikiquote, I ran into a beautiful gem — from "Liberty and Democracy" (1925) — that precisely pegs the Democrats and their agenda today:


39 posted on 07/01/2020 7:33:56 AM PDT by poconopundit (Iron fist in an Irish velvet glove: Kayleigh "Shillelagh" McEnany we salute your work!)
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To: poconopundit

That’s a great one.


40 posted on 07/01/2020 7:41:07 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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