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Doublespeak: Columnist Claims Protecting the Second Amendment Diminishes the First
Gun Watch ^ | 22 July, 2016 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 07/30/2016 6:04:04 AM PDT by marktwain



In a column In the Tampa Bay Times, a writer makes the claim that a law to protect the Second Amendment diminishes the First Amendment.  It is a stretch.  The statute, passed by the Florida legislature in 2011, makes it illegal for local governments to pass regulations and ordinances dealing with guns, gun possession, anything to  do with guns. The law was passed because politicians in large urban centers persistently ignored the previous preemption law.  Local ordinances and regulations created a patchwork of firearms law to entrap any Floridians who exercised their Second Amendment rights.

The columnist referred to a St. Petersburg Councilwoman, Lisa Wheeler-Bowman, who wanted to pass a resolution supporting a special legislative session dealing with restricting Second Amendment Rights.  She was told that such a resolution, because it dealt with guns, might be illegal. It might subject her to fines or a lawsuit. It probably would not, but there was a remote possibility. 

The preemption statute did not interfere with her First Amendment rights at all.  It hindered her power to pass a resolution, to take official action as member of a governmental body.  The First Amendment does not protect governments.  It protects people.  She can talk about the Second Amendment all she wishes.  Governments have powers.  People have rights. From tampabay.com:

When City Attorney Jacqueline Kovilaritch alerted Wheeler-Bowman to the potential ramifications of passing even a non-binding resolution related to firearms, she said she decided to pull the discussion from today's agenda.

This isn't the first time common sense has been stifled by this NRA-supported law. This was the same law that cops around the state once said left them powerless to shut down backyard gun ranges.
Passing resolutions about guns may or may not be covered under the preemption law.  If politicians want to talk about guns, they can talk about guns all they want.  Using their governmental power to legislate about guns has been placed out of bounds by the Florida legislature, and for good reason.

Our government is meant to be limited in its power.  That is what checks and balances are all about.  Local governments are not supposed to infringe on Constitutionally protected rights.  It is reasonable and responsible for state governments to protect those rights.

When I tuned into the St. Petersburg City Council, there was a woman reading a statement calling for more restrictions on Second Amendment rights.  Her First Amendment rights did not seem impaired at all.  "Progressives" deliberately confuse individual rights with government powers.  Limiting government power does not limit individual rights.

Governments are frequently attacking the First Amendment rights of Second Amendment supporters.  California forbids gunshops to display a picture of a handgun outside of the shop.  In several cities, Second Amendment supporters have had to sue city governments to allow advertising for firearms on city venues.  Alan Korwin recently won one of these lawsuits in Phoenix.  Local government representative and anti-Second Amendment activists applied political pressure to force an airport to take down an advertisement for guns in Columbia, SC.

In Texas, three anti-Second Amendment professors claimed that exercising Second Amendment rights (even while concealed!) inhibited their First Amendment rights.  Having First Amendment rights does not mean that you can infringe on others rights because you suffer from a phobia.  If someone is afraid of crowds, they may refrain from speaking in front of one.  The people in the crowd's right to assembly is not restricting their First Amendment right.  The person's own phobia is.

Limiting government power is designed to protect individual rights.  Limiting the power of local governments to infringe on the Second Amendment does not limit the First Amendment right of any individual.

©2016 by Dean Weingarten: Permission to share is granted when this notice and link are included.
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TOPICS: Government; Politics; Sports
KEYWORDS: banglist; firstamendment; fl; florida; secondamendment
Restricting governmental bodies from passing resolutions is not restricting the first amendment.
1 posted on 07/30/2016 6:04:04 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

The Bill of Rights is there to protect People from the Government, not to protect Government from the People. *sheesh*


2 posted on 07/30/2016 6:07:13 AM PDT by Flick Lives (TRIGGER WARNING - Posts may require application of sarcasm filter)
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To: marktwain

I wish we could simply ignore such stupid people.


3 posted on 07/30/2016 6:07:47 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Vote GOP: A Slower Handbasket)
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To: marktwain

bkmk


4 posted on 07/30/2016 6:07:48 AM PDT by sauropod (Beware the fury of a patient man. I've lost my patience!)
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To: marktwain

The First thing we should do is remove the right to free speech from every person (especially journalists) who promote the Liberal ideology.

Once that has been accomplished, I am prepared to discuss the removal of the Second Amendment, although I don’t imagine there will be much to say on the matter.


5 posted on 07/30/2016 6:10:08 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (q)
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To: marktwain

I would say that if we have no second amendment it will not be long until we have no first amendment.


6 posted on 07/30/2016 6:10:30 AM PDT by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless, indisputable clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: DennisR

I would say that if we have no second amendment it will not be long until we have no first amendment.


The founders obviously agreed with your statement... I only wish that had stated that belief clearly within the 2nd Amendment itself.


7 posted on 07/30/2016 6:15:07 AM PDT by samtheman (Vote Trump)
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To: marktwain

If it weren’t for the Second Amendment, the First wouldn’t be worth the paper it’s written on. The Second is the insurance policy for the First.


8 posted on 07/30/2016 6:47:30 AM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great -- until it happens to YOU.)
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To: marktwain
Lisa (hyphenated)Wheeler Bowman

Hyphenated names indicate a person with inferiority complex trying to sound more important.

*Lisa Wheeler-Bowman-Skyhook-Purple-People-Eater.

9 posted on 07/30/2016 6:48:23 AM PDT by capt. norm (If you can't make them see the light, let them feel the heat!<)
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To: Flick Lives

from the Federal Government.


10 posted on 07/30/2016 7:05:46 AM PDT by stylin19a
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To: capt. norm

Scaredy black.


11 posted on 07/30/2016 7:07:30 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: marktwain

The Second Amendment makes all the others possible.


12 posted on 07/30/2016 7:11:28 AM PDT by jmacusa ("Dats all I can stands 'cuz I can't stands no more!''-- Popeye The Sailorman.)
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To: marktwain
In a column In the Tampa Bay Times, a writer makes the claim that a law to protect the Second Amendment diminishes the First Amendment. It is a stretch. The statute, passed by the Florida legislature in 2011, makes it illegal for local governments to pass regulations and ordinances dealing with guns, gun possession, anything to do with guns.

How about we just enforce the laws already on the books:

18 U.S. Code § 241 - Conspiracy against rights

If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same; or

If two or more persons go in disguise on the highway, or on the premises of another, with intent to prevent or hinder his free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege so secured—

They shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, they shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.

13 posted on 07/30/2016 10:13:28 AM PDT by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, and eat you.)
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To: marktwain
In Texas, three anti-Second Amendment professors claimed that exercising Second Amendment rights (even while concealed!) inhibited their First Amendment rights.

Haven't you heard? The protections of the Constitution, and its equal rights, only apply to the National Guard. And that First Amendment stuff only applies to *Free Press* publications like shopper newspapers and the internet, not to counterfeiters, child pornographers and seditionists or other money-making commercial schemes.

14 posted on 07/30/2016 10:19:00 AM PDT by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, and eat you.)
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