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Is the .308 ammo viable for long range hunting?
Am Shooting Journal ^ | 9/14/2016 | J Hines

Posted on 09/14/2016 12:05:34 PM PDT by w1n1

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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Was thinking the Brits shot .308’s out of their planes. Maybe they used the .303 (standard Lee-Enfield round) instead.


41 posted on 09/14/2016 12:57:24 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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To: litehaus
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I once had a whole bunch of Swedish Mausers but am down to one. Still have a bit of ammo tho.

42 posted on 09/14/2016 12:59:49 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: WKUHilltopper

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.308_Winchester

The .308 Winchester (pronounced: “three-oh-eight” or “three-aught-eight”) is a rimless, bottlenecked rifle cartridge and is the commercial cartridge from which the 7.62×51mm NATO round was derived. The .308 Winchester was introduced in 1952, two years prior to the NATO adoption of the 7.62×51mm NATO T65. Winchester branded the cartridge and introduced it to the commercial hunting market as the .308 Winchester. Winchester’s Model 70 and Model 88 rifles were subsequently chambered for the new cartridge. Since then, the .308 Winchester has become the most popular short-action, big-game hunting cartridge worldwide.[1] It is also commonly used for civilian target shooting, military sniping, and police sharpshooting. The relatively short case makes the .308 Winchester especially well-adapted for short-action rifles. When loaded with a bullet that expands, tumbles, or fragments in tissue, this cartridge is capable of high terminal performance.[2][3][4]


43 posted on 09/14/2016 1:02:32 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

As I recall, the .308 was the 7.62 NATO developed for the M-14 by necking down the .30-06.

While I understand the rationale for necking it down, I always wished the M-14 had been essentially a detachable-magazine M-1 Garand, retaining the .30-06: basically, a sleek, light successor to the BAR.


44 posted on 09/14/2016 1:02:53 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - JRRT)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

As I recall, the .308 was the 7.62 NATO developed for the M-14 by necking down the .30-06.

While I understand the rationale for necking it down, I always wished the M-14 had been essentially a detachable-magazine M-1 Garand, retaining the .30-06: basically, a sleek, light successor to the BAR.


45 posted on 09/14/2016 1:02:54 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - JRRT)
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To: YogicCowboy

The problem is that the longer 30-06 cartridge did not cycle well in fully automatic rifles.

The .308 is essentially a 30-06 with a shorter case that works reliably in full-auto firearms.


46 posted on 09/14/2016 1:05:34 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: WENDLE
I highly recommend the .380 for long range. Not the 308. I’m talking 1000 meters.

I must be missing something. I like my .380, but at 1000 meters, I probably couldn't hit a drive-in movie screen, lol.

47 posted on 09/14/2016 1:07:02 PM PDT by deoetdoctrinae (Become a monthly donor and help end FReepathons!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

OKIE


48 posted on 09/14/2016 1:10:04 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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To: D Rider

My most accurate rifle is my Mossberg 100ATR 30-06. It is also my cheapest long rifle. I went for the 30-06 because of the cost of the ammo. I also like the Rem 700 in the 7mm mag caliber because of it’s power. The 100ATR is available in many different calibers. So if you are in the market for long rifle I would take a look at them.


49 posted on 09/14/2016 1:10:05 PM PDT by Do the math (Doug)
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To: D Rider

My most accurate rifle is my Mossberg 100ATR 30-06. It is also my cheapest long rifle. I went for the 30-06 because of the cost of the ammo. I also like the Rem 700 in the 7mm mag caliber because of it’s power. The 100ATR is available in many different calibers. So if you are in the market for long rifle I would take a look at them.


50 posted on 09/14/2016 1:10:08 PM PDT by Do the math (Doug)
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To: w1n1

Long Range Elk with .308 Winchester:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrQqPdRgw_w


51 posted on 09/14/2016 1:10:39 PM PDT by MCF (If my home can't be my Castle, then it will be my Alamo.)
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To: w1n1

My first hunting rifle was a .308 and I recently got a new Savage .308 with bull barrel and scope to shoot out to 1,000 years.


52 posted on 09/14/2016 1:10:40 PM PDT by Reno89519 (It is very simple, Trump/Pence or Clinton/Kaine. Good riddance Lyn' Ted, we regret ever knowing you)
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To: Gaffer

That range was used for massed area volley fire. It doesn’t mean that it was intended to engage a man-sized target at that range. More likely, the shooter was ‘aiming’ at a formation of moving troops.
Troops used to do a lot of things we don’t really do any more; not because we can’t, but because we are not present with those type of targets any more.


53 posted on 09/14/2016 1:10:57 PM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

What weapons are enemy snipers in Afghanistan using to outgun ours?

No doubt there is a huge int’l sniper weapons market out there. Nothing but the best from Russia and other arms producers, for ready cash.

Wonder what the Taleban’s favorite sniper rifle is?


54 posted on 09/14/2016 1:11:24 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: w1n1

Most standard Rifles above a .223/5.56 are plenty to hunt Big game with Out to 3-4 hundred yards.

Myself, I prefer a belted Magnum cartridge when going for big game for both leakage and distance. Know your Rifle, the trajectory and the Energy at longer distances of target. I handload my cartidges so that the FPS of the Bullet leaving the Rifle is around 3200 fps. A 30 cal. 180 gr. bullet under those conditions is gonna leave a mark.

I have carried a .300 Win. Mag for 25 years for Elk, Whitetail, Mulies. Never left a bullet in any of them out to 375 yards. A .30 cal. entry hole/ 50 cent hole leaving. Easy to track. But they don’t go far anyhow. :)

Pick up a handloading manual or visit one of the Bullet Manufacturers websites. A lot of very interesting information can be gleened from reading thru them.


55 posted on 09/14/2016 1:11:36 PM PDT by VRWCarea51 (The Original 1998 Version)
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To: Reno89519

“.....to shoot out to 1,000 years.”

That’s a loooong bullet flight!


56 posted on 09/14/2016 1:13:12 PM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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To: Little Pig

Reminds of moose hunting with my dad and brother in the 70s on Kenai peninsula in Alaska. Dad shot a moose about mile in from our starting point around 6 or 7 a.m. Had to first get it out of watery muck, then we spent until about the same time that evening packing it out. No fun.


57 posted on 09/14/2016 1:14:15 PM PDT by Reno89519 (It is very simple, Trump/Pence or Clinton/Kaine. Good riddance Lyn' Ted, we regret ever knowing you)
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To: w1n1

That bullet looks more like a 30-06 vs .308.


58 posted on 09/14/2016 1:14:44 PM PDT by mcshot (The "Greatest Generation" would never have allowed the trashing of our Republic.)
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To: Carthego delenda est

Time traveling.


59 posted on 09/14/2016 1:16:35 PM PDT by Reno89519 (It is very simple, Trump/Pence or Clinton/Kaine. Good riddance Lyn' Ted, we regret ever knowing you)
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To: w1n1

For pig hunting up in on Kauai long range is the tip of your knife. You can’t see those buggers until you’re right on them so you spear them or stab them. Pretty brutal


60 posted on 09/14/2016 1:22:24 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Hillary Clinton, the elderly woman's version of "I dindu nuffins.")
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