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What are the Odds of Britain Going to War with Spain?
IWB ^ | Mark Angelides

Posted on 04/04/2017 6:06:02 AM PDT by davikkm

After several hundred years of complaining about the UK ownership of Gibraltar, Spain is looking set to make a final play for the territory. Gibraltar has long been recognized internationally as belonging to Britain with only Spain criticizing the position; and the Brexit negotiations may be their last real chance of getting it.

One of the most decisive and well-managed military actions of modern history was former Prime Minister Margret Thatcher, responding to the Argentinian invasion of the Falkland Islands. Nowadays, Thatcher is much maligned by the left, but few would criticize her leadership during the time of the crisis. She boldly led the UK in a defensive war that showed Britain as the true naval power it was. And what’s more, she had the whole nation behind her. But times and attitudes have changed, and what would have been regarded as fair military action, is likely to end with the media and the Establishment denigrating the UK for defending sovereign territory.

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TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: britain; spain; war
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1 posted on 04/04/2017 6:06:02 AM PDT by davikkm
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To: davikkm

What is the upside?


2 posted on 04/04/2017 6:09:40 AM PDT by Don Corleone (.leave the gun, take the canolis, take it to the mattress.)
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To: davikkm

I’ve been to Gibralter. Its going to stay in British hands. VERY strategic piece of real estate.


3 posted on 04/04/2017 6:13:39 AM PDT by Starboard
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ZERO


4 posted on 04/04/2017 6:17:46 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: davikkm

Virtually zero. They might initiate a court fight or Britain might beef up their presence in contended territory, but they won’t shoot. As a side note, Spain is on the verge of insolvency. Starting a war would be incredibly stupid. Of course, that’s never stopped anyone before. I will also note that it appears Britain’s readiness for war is about on par with 1913; except in 1913 they had a small, thoroughly professional army. I don’t think they have that number (100,000) of men under arms right now.


5 posted on 04/04/2017 6:19:11 AM PDT by Gen.Blather (n)
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To: davikkm

Keep in mind that there are about a million Britishers living in Spain.


6 posted on 04/04/2017 6:19:54 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: davikkm

Spain is too busy at war with itself.


7 posted on 04/04/2017 6:20:41 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Reset Underway!)
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To: Fiji Hill

“Keep in mind that there are about a million Britishers living in Spain.”

And if Spain kicks them out, what would that do to their economy?


8 posted on 04/04/2017 6:23:16 AM PDT by PLMerite (Lord, let me die fighting lions. Amen)
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To: davikkm

Actually, this author is incorrect. The Falklands war was an absolute logistical and tactical mess for the British forces. While they did win in a somewhat overwhelming manner, their experience in the Falklands was very similar to our experience in Grenada. The British learned that they were not as formidable as they thought they were.


9 posted on 04/04/2017 6:30:45 AM PDT by usafa92 (Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the United States)
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To: davikkm

Spanish Armada II


10 posted on 04/04/2017 6:31:13 AM PDT by BuffaloJack ("If you're going through Hell, keep going." Winston Churchill)
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To: Gen.Blather

Great Britain is but a pale, feeble shadow of what it was in 1913, and is frankly incapable of undertaking a military operation of any size. Tragically, that once great Christian power has largely denied the Faith and is rapidly becoming Islamicisd. England, and indeed Europe as a whole, is lost!


11 posted on 04/04/2017 6:31:13 AM PDT by tjd1454
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To: davikkm

That would make the Gibraltar rock!

Hat tip, Mark Flora 1966.


12 posted on 04/04/2017 6:32:45 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: Gen.Blather
As a side note, Spain is on the verge of insolvency. Starting a war would be incredibly stupid.

A quick analysis of history will show that insolvency has been the cause of many a war.

13 posted on 04/04/2017 6:34:05 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: PLMerite
And if Spain kicks them out, what would that do to their economy?

And the hordes of Britishers heading for the beaches of Spain each summer will instead head for Croatia, Miami or Huntington Beach, Calif.

14 posted on 04/04/2017 6:37:10 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: davikkm

It’s been a fortress at least since the Muslim invasion in the eighth century. The name is based on the Arabic “Jabal at-Tariq” (Fortress of Tariq). And as it guards the narrow sole gateway between the Atlantic and Mediterranean whoever owns it isn’t going to give it up with a fight. And if Spain is thinking about trying to negotiate a handover a ‘la Hong Kong and Kowloon, well, Gibraltar isn’t on the other side of the planet and they ain’t China.


15 posted on 04/04/2017 6:39:16 AM PDT by katana (It still hasn't occurred to them that Trump doesn't give a s***)
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To: usafa92
The British learned that they were not as formidable as they thought they were.

War is seldom the ideal solution to domestic problems. History has taught us that the aggressor in modern times is always the loser.

If Britain was humbled, a matter of opinion, Argentina was absolutely humbled and they had to solve their domestic problems by other means...

16 posted on 04/04/2017 6:48:04 AM PDT by publius911 (I SUPPORT MY PRESIDENT?)
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To: davikkm
If Spain's only goal is to destroy Gibraltar then the odds might be pretty good.Just enough shooting to get the job done and then surrender.
17 posted on 04/04/2017 6:48:11 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Deplorables' Lives Matter)
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To: publius911

Well stated.


18 posted on 04/04/2017 6:54:31 AM PDT by usafa92 (Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the United States)
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To: tjd1454

“England, and indeed Europe as a whole, is lost!”

It’s too early to declare them a loss. If they have their social and cultural Pearl Harbor, there is still hope. I am certain it will happen because they have invited the actors onto the stage and provided them with homes and sustenance so they can spend their full efforts on defeating a non-Muslim nation and subjugating its people. I am confident the event(s) will happen. I am not confident there is a Churchill to take the tiller and turn the situation around.


19 posted on 04/04/2017 6:55:23 AM PDT by Gen.Blather (n)
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To: davikkm
According to The Sun, a few minutes ago a Spanish Navy vessel was driven from waters near Gibraltar by two small British vessels. No shots fired.

I don't think Teresa May is made of the same stock as Maggie Thatcher was. Elizabeth the First she ain't. But I don't think British public opinion would permit May to back down from Spain.

20 posted on 04/04/2017 7:01:01 AM PDT by donozark (Lock HER up! Lock HIM up! Kick 'em out! Build the wall! GO TRUMP!!)
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