Posted on 07/29/2017 3:26:08 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
I am not an expert, but it passed xray.
I hear this claim a lot.
But often employers make that objection here when all they’re hiring for is McJobs : at or right near min-wage, no benefits, no promotion, no NOTHING, ever. You’ll spend a shocking portion of your paycheck just on bus fare or gas/maintenance just getting to your job day to day.
No fraking duh they “can’t” find people.
Also you go to actually apply and it’s not really that they’re taking anyone...they put you through a 100 question personality test you gotta pass (somehow) and often as not they want 2, 3, 4 years experience.
anecdotal but interesting...
just this passed weekend, I was talking to a friend who runs the staff at a golf course.
They are looking for help. Being near the end of the season, I asked why.
He said it's mostly for next year.
He doesn't want the kids back. He will be hiring old farts.
He says they show up, on time and do the work.
Even more help wanted signs out since this thread started. I'm guessing it's because the kids are back to school.
Wendy's here starting pay is 9 bucks an hour. Remember, McJobs should be a floor not a ceiling.
Menards\Home Depot\Lowes are all looking for people - 9 to 13 bucks an hour.
Warehouse jobs for fork lift driver - they will train and get you certified - 13 bucks to start with a bump to 15 after 90 days.
I think the next time I'm out and about, I'll take a video\photos of all the help wanted signs.
maybe I'll go in and asked about the positions.
I disagree. My company has drug tests and we are able to eliminate a lot of employees as a result. As a result, we are able to hire productive people who stick around longer.
Thank you for understanding where I’m coming from and being willing to back up what you say.
98% of the places that are “always hiring” are the bottom of the bottom of the barrel - fast food, junky call centers, sleazy sales places. Almost all have whacko work hours to boot. I know this as I’m stuck looking at them for a 2nd job. A local BK advertises ‘premium wages’....50 cents highter than min wage...that’s just dishonest.
Druggies not welcome in most workplaces. Too much liability.
And alcoholics are? Alcohol related accidents I would imagine would be far more the norm since it’s legal and not problem to get.
End liability of the employer when an employee under the influence causes damage or industries first.
You cite “legal authority, but ignore the fact that the applicant is requesting a job where drugs cause immense liability to the employer. As part of the request, the employer is fully entitled to state that the applicant has to take a drug test as a condition of employment.
Unless, of course, you mean to say that the employer has no right to protect themselves from liability when employees misbehave.
I don’t know if there is a reliable way to test for that.
“In Seattle, all the welders used to spend their lunch smoking crack one block over from the plant.”
This must be why so many Boeing aircraft fall out of the sky /sarc
How did employers hire people prior to all this? The the 70’s and 80’s I never had this happen when I went for jobs.
The difficult part about most of the drug testing is it only tests for marijuana. I does not test for serious drugs. Why not? Because it costs too much to test for the others on a routine employment test.
I terms of impairment, marijuana has never been a real issue. George Washington and others of our founding fathers grew it, cultivated it. Smoked it? No doubt. We can thank DuPont for making it an issue...the hemp, which made the best rope, competed with DuPont's man-made fibers (nylon) which was inferior to hemp.
Will I smoke marijuana? No. I don't smoke tobacco either.
In the 70s and 80s the lawsuit lottery sweepstakes was just getting started. Now it is in full swing.
Once we started getting away from personal liability and pushing societal and deep-pocket liability, this was an inevitable result. To blame the employers for wanting to lower their exposure to liability (and lower their insurance costs, to boot) doesn’t make sense to me.
I agree.
Pay more or drop the drug test.
Post them here or I call BS.
It wasn’t Boeing, but it might be.
sorry to hear of your plight.
arg...I didn’t finish my original thought. I guess it depends on where you are.
keep the faith...something will pop.
FreeRegards.
http://www.kptv.com/story/36351040/construction-projects-in-portland-affected-by-shortage-of-workers
https://www.dcourier.com/news/2017/sep/12/labor-shortage-plagues-prescott/
http://www.businessinsider.com/r-construction-worker-shortage-could-weigh-on-harvey-recovery-2017-9
http://tucson.com/business/arizona-construction-workers-in-high-demand-short-supply/article_ba948066-3697-539a-a2eb-251bac0f94c3.html
http://www.toledoblade.com/business/2017/09/03/Shortage-of-qualified-workers-hampers-construction-industry.html
http://lacrossetribune.com/wisconsin-businesses-grapple-with-a-growing-worker-shortage/article_bf1e4a50-b3c4-5796-8597-c5408e274f30.html
http://triblive.com/local/westmoreland/12654732-74/help-wanted-companies-face-shortage-of-skilled-labor-in-construction-trades
Everyone in my immediate sphere is employed with the exception of one person. Sure, we'd all like a little more $$$. But we're making it, making decent wages. Everyone who wants to work is working. With the one exception. And he self destructs because of a hair trigger anger response when confronted. So he's doing a few hours a day in a menial job. But everyone else is employed and making at least $20/hr.
I understand some of it is geographic. but many of these jobs, especially with roads and bridges are union jobs and they are finding it hard to get people to fill the positions.
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