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Trump: Wall Is ‘New Renovation Of Old And Existing Fences And Walls’
Hidden Americans ^ | 09/14/2017 | Richard Saunders

Posted on 09/14/2017 11:17:35 AM PDT by nodwam

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To: gubamyster

Thanks for the clarification. I got to ask, like, what does Trump gain by signing amnesty for DREAMERS?


41 posted on 09/14/2017 12:15:48 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: gubamyster

I take heart in what you say and I hope you’re right but I really feel as if he’s going to sell us out over DACA.


42 posted on 09/14/2017 12:20:15 PM PDT by jmacusa ("Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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To: nodwam

BS!! I will not waver from supporting trump!!! This is the new narrative of the mediaSNAKES!!! For eight months they have thrown the kitchen sink at trump to bring him down and to divide his base...THIS TOO WILL FAIL!!!! I’m STILL 100% with the president..I heard him WITH MY OWN EARS THIS MORNING I believe him and NOT the fake mediaVOMITS! Specially the hill!! SO FOLKS Don’t FALL THIS BULLCHIT!!!


43 posted on 09/14/2017 12:23:49 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: Governor Dinwiddie
We are being played, I'm afraid.

Be afraid...be VERY afraid...after all, you're a Republican. Look how many times in the past your party has betrayed you. How many times it has stabbed you in the back. Look at how it is screwing you over right now. And as for President Trump, take as gospel whatever the NeverTrumpers, RATS and/or MSM tell you, without any regard for context.

44 posted on 09/14/2017 12:24:43 PM PDT by Roccus (When you talk to a politician...ANY politician...always say, "Remember Ceausescu")
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To: Sam Gamgee
I got to ask, like, what does Trump gain by signing amnesty for DREAMERS?

Well, like he said on the tarmac, they are not talking amnesty. However, unfortunately he also said in his tweet, "Does anybody really want to throw out good, educated and accomplished young people who have jobs, some serving in the military? Really!....."

I don't think he has anything to gain. I have no way of knowing, but I think he feels it would be very difficult, both personally to him & politically, to deport these so called DACA illegal aliens. I think he has a little bit of compassion for them. I'm not saying I agree with him on this part, just how I think he sees it.

45 posted on 09/14/2017 12:29:12 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: RoseofTexas

Oh and the snakes Nancy and schumer along with mediawhores are playing this brilliantly cooked scheme to folks who ALL OF SUDDEN BELIEVE the fake news!! They saw an opening last night ..twisted it lied and all of sudden the base is in a tizzy... they are going to milk it for what it’s worth lie and all to the last drop!!!!


46 posted on 09/14/2017 12:29:46 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: Mariner

Nah, I’ve been here since reinstated but I was never a never Trumper. I know about all the fake news and watched the video of how they are building the wall. (really cool) They have sections going up that will be prototypes and then they will use the best section for the rest. Why would they tear down what has already been built when they can just fix it? $$$

The main issue upon which I vote is pre-born genocide because God does not forgive nationally legalized child sacrifice but He does give ONE reprieve with repentance. oh, the consequence is invasion and conquest.


47 posted on 09/14/2017 12:30:29 PM PDT by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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To: ltc8k6

Read his tweets this morning. Sadly this is not fake news.


48 posted on 09/14/2017 12:30:29 PM PDT by Reno89519 (PRESIDENT TRUMP, KEEP YOUR PROMISES! NO AMNESTY AND BUILD THAT WALL.)
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To: nodwam

LoL “capitulation.”

It’s really simple goofballs.

It makes sense to start with replacing and upgrading existing walls, fences, posts, and stop signs with the new and robust security stuff. There’s many miles upon miles of it in existence. You don’t wait until CONgress to funds the rest if it. You start it now.


49 posted on 09/14/2017 12:33:26 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: nodwam

Are there no places where our current walls work?


50 posted on 09/14/2017 12:36:41 PM PDT by Harpotoo
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To: nodwam

Go Donald Trump!

Keep Fighting Like Hell!

We Will Never Forget Their Traitorous Seditious Actions against We the People and by Proxy you.

- your base


51 posted on 09/14/2017 12:39:24 PM PDT by Eddie01
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To: DugwayDuke
The point is: “renovation” can cover many things.

In New York City, it is sometimes easier to get a building permit for renovation (or alteration) of a building than for new construction. However, one can start with a 3-story townhouse, and end up with a 10-story condo, through a process of "alteration" that leaves little more than some exterior walls of the previously existing building. So I agree - especially to a New York builder, "renovation" can cover a lot of construction work.

52 posted on 09/14/2017 12:42:38 PM PDT by free-in-nyc (Freeping from the heart of the occupation)
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To: Sacajaweau

A minefield would be a good barrier.


53 posted on 09/14/2017 12:45:53 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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To: Roccus
The back and forth of this thread only demonstrates the need for absolute clarity on these policies. This thread would have only a couple of posts if it were unambiguously clear what is going on. The situation is wide open to interpretation.

I'm not alone in feeling this way. Laura Ingraham and Ann Coulter have already chimed in with their dismay, and they are privy to way more information than I am. Listened to Rush a bit today, even he was noncommittal, trying to play it right down the middle. He doesn't seem certain what's going on either.

After years of disappointment starting with Bush One, then Junior, and of course Boehner and Cantor, and dozens of their co-conspirators, who wouldn't be wary?
 

54 posted on 09/14/2017 1:06:02 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

You’re not getting a written plan until after negotiations. Why tip your hand before the tug of war begins?


55 posted on 09/14/2017 1:16:50 PM PDT by xzins ( Support the Freepathon! Every donation is impaortant.)
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To: gubamyster

That’s fine if he does, but hope he asks for wall money in exchange for his signature.


56 posted on 09/14/2017 1:26:35 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: nodwam

Yet ANOTHER thread on this FAKE story.

““The WALL, which is already under construction in the form of new renovation of old and existing fences and walls, will continue to be built.””

A TRUE statement.

Now exactly WHERE in that statement does Trump say that this is ALL that is going to be done at the border?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm? These people just can’t be this STUPID.


57 posted on 09/14/2017 1:42:23 PM PDT by faucetman (Ju"st the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Mariner

Don’t blame Cruz supporters. If it were not for the vast majority of us backing Trump in the general, Trump would not be president.

We’re supporting Trump. We’re for the wall.

There were some good Freepers who permanently left this forum because of the hateful attacks on them for supporting Cruz. And certain people on this forum STILL can’t let it go.

I’ve seen sore losers in my life, but I’ve never seen such a bunch of sore winners.

When Trump secured the nomination I crossed over and became a broken-glass Trump voter. And I’m still all in.

I have not always agreed with Cruz on everything, nor have I always agreed with Trump on every single thing. But Trump is our president. He’s doing an incredible job, especially considering what he’s up against.

In retrospect, I don’t think Cruz could have beat Hillary. And I don’t think Cruz could have withstood the attacks if he had won. So it’s good that we have Trump.

And I will agree with you on one thing. It gets really old constantly hearing those running around saying the sky is falling every time the leftwing media or the real Never-Trump crowd reports something negative about Trump.

Just don’t lump original Cruz supporters with the Never-Trump crowd. I’m part of the first group, but I’ve never been part of the second. I supported and continue to support Cruz because he has always taken a very conservative position on nearly every issue. I supported and continue to support Trump for the same reason.

Cruz seems to be ideologically conservative, but is weak when it comes to globalism versus nationalism. Trump may not be ideologically conservative, but he is pragmatically because he can see what works and what does not.

I’m still hopefully optimistic that Trump will be able to do some significant house cleaning in Washington and then get some big things accomplished in his first term. If so, his second term will be even better. Meanwhile, we will have to accept the limitations of what he can do because he is, after all, just a mere mortal.


58 posted on 09/14/2017 1:47:31 PM PDT by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: nodwam

We can take a look at history during the Reagan years with immigration/Amnesty and border security! President Trump is setting himself up to be schlonged by the Democrats just like Reagan was!


59 posted on 09/14/2017 1:51:07 PM PDT by Lopeover (The 2016 Election is about allegiance to the United States!)
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To: Roccus

Thanks brother for your post, and I know what you are saying has truth. Forgive us if we are just RAW from the way we have been treated by the Republicans for decades now.


60 posted on 09/14/2017 3:05:38 PM PDT by BDParrish (One representative for every 30,000 persons!)
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