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The Bitcoin Standard: The Decentralized Alternative to Central Banking
The Tom Woods Show ^ | June 4, 2018 | Thomas E. Woods

Posted on 07/15/2018 1:24:17 PM PDT by OddLane

No wonder my listeners demanded this episode. Saifedean Ammous takes an economic perspective informed by the Austrian School and applies it to Bitcoin and why it matters. He discusses the various roles Bitcoin can play, and parries common objections. (We also take an animated detour into the BCH/BTC discussion, for those of you interested.)


TOPICS: Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: bitcoin; btc; congame; cryptocurrency; goldbugs; idiocy; tomwoods
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To: TexasGator
But as you keep saying, the supply of bitcoin is very limited making it easier to manipulate.

How?

And, before we go down another rat hole, do you have any evidence of Bitcoin price manipulation?

61 posted on 07/15/2018 6:47:38 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: SeeSharp

“And a price. “

You might be interested in reading about the tulip mania and how it compares to bitcoin trading.


62 posted on 07/15/2018 6:53:29 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1)
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To: SeeSharp

Do you have assurance it is not being manipulated?


63 posted on 07/15/2018 7:01:42 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1)
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To: TexasGator
You might be interested in reading about the tulip mania and how it compares to bitcoin trading.

Here's my link. Where's yours?

The Truth About Tulipmania

64 posted on 07/15/2018 7:05:15 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: TexasGator
Do you have assurance it is not being manipulated?

How could I?

I do have assurance the dollar is being manipulated. The Federal Reserve exists for precisely that purpose.

65 posted on 07/15/2018 7:07:19 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: Hostage

BTTT!


66 posted on 07/15/2018 7:23:31 PM PDT by OddLane
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To: TexasGator
Are you now agreeing that there is price manipulation with bitcoin?

Are you admitting that there is price manipulation in gold markets? Is there price manipulation in the stock markets? Is gold a scam? Are stocks a scam?

My point was that the existence of market manipulation (if it exists) doesn't mean that what is being traded is a scam. I see you've taken up the manipulation discussion with another poster. Have fun and I'm off for now.

67 posted on 07/15/2018 8:05:37 PM PDT by Database
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To: SeeSharp

Scam artist Bitcoin bs...

Your day job, let me guess... Robocaller?


68 posted on 07/15/2018 10:18:09 PM PDT by Professional
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To: Professional
Scam artist Bitcoin bs... Your day job, let me guess... Robocaller?

Great argument. I'm sure that convinced everyone.

69 posted on 07/16/2018 2:33:29 AM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: Hugin
I am no big believer in crypto currencies being the big MOJO of the new financial world but saying the dollar at least has the backing of the government makes me giggle like a school girl. The government creates dollars out of thin air constantly by issuing new bonds etc. in order to pay off the ones coming due. Anyone with an IQ north of 70 can figure out that a a financial scam of that magnitude shows that Mr. Ponzie and Mr. Madoff were rank amateurs... 😎👌
70 posted on 07/16/2018 2:53:07 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Reno89519

You want to dismiss money laundering and terrorist financing, get rid of the $100 bill. Fiat currency is used in a lot more crimes that bitcoin.

I don’t dispute at bitcoin is speculative as an “investment” but it’s NOT the “cause” of bad things any more than a gun is responsible for murder.


71 posted on 07/16/2018 3:01:09 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: TexasGator

If you knew what you were talking about, it spiked for about a month. This used to happen with gold a hundred years ago.

The $20,000 value for a couple of minutes is really not an accurate assessment of how this works.


72 posted on 07/16/2018 3:03:39 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: TexasGator

You should probably stop talking about stuff you don’t understand. It’s really tedious and is starting to look like you are howling at clouds.


73 posted on 07/16/2018 3:05:46 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Hugin

Well, we had to go this many post before the “tulip” bubble comparison. Which...is not a relevant discussion, and is usually based on the chapter in a 200 year old book which is so far off the mark that it’s as crazy as the title.


74 posted on 07/16/2018 3:09:09 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: TexasGator

You have no idea what you are talking about.


75 posted on 07/16/2018 3:10:31 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: SeeSharp

Originally, the Bitcoin scam artists claimed that the idea behind the instrument was a stable currency. Later, they claim it is an “investment”.

If it’s a currency, the price is far too unpredictable for two parties to agree to a contract expecting the price to remain stable and predictable for the mutual benefit of both buyer and seller.

If it’s an investment, there is no dividend, no source of income, no profit, not employees no company no output product. It’s only a shiny object, it has no chemical/metal value...it’s just a “blue sky” investment.

I have 26 professional years of experience in finance and economics, I own my own financial institution. I make 6 figures several times over and over.

What’s your resume? Do you disclose any conflicts of interest as your write your drivel? Frankly, I think these bitcoin threads should be removed immediately by FR, they have no basis whatsoever for being posted here.


76 posted on 07/16/2018 7:34:15 AM PDT by Professional
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To: Mad Dawgg

Having the backing of the government means it’s legal tender, which is a big deal. Try paying your mortgage with bitcoin. No matter what kind of inflation we have your mortgage company must by law accept USD. They cannot one day say now you have to pay in silver, Euros or bitcoin.


77 posted on 07/16/2018 2:15:42 PM PDT by Hugin (Conservatism without Nationalism is ba fraud.)
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To: Hugin

Yeah so it is mandatory that I use a currency that is devalued daily by the US government by them constantly creating more debt which in turn creates more dollars out of thin air and you think that is a good thing. Hahahaha


78 posted on 07/16/2018 3:31:44 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Mad Dawgg

Laugh all you want. Like I said, try paying your mortgage in bitcoin. There has to be a universally accepted currency to have an economy.

BTW, where is the inflation that the dollar detractors have been predicting here for many years? I once thought it was inevitable, but it hasn’t happened so I have done what rational people do and changed my mind about it. It seems as though production is outpacing even the creation of new dollars. Deflation is a bigger potential problem now.


79 posted on 07/16/2018 3:49:35 PM PDT by Hugin (Conservatism without Nationalism is ba fraud.)
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To: Hugin
"BTW, where is the inflation that the dollar detractors have been predicting here for many years? I once thought it was inevitable, but it hasn’t happened so I have done what rational people do and changed my mind about it"

that is just food.

80 posted on 07/17/2018 12:08:15 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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