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Your Second Civil War: It Ain’t Happening.
Conservative Right Wing News ^ | 10/07/2019 | Jeffrey A. Friedberg

Posted on 10/07/2019 10:09:51 AM PDT by RArtfulogerDodger

Your Second Civil War: It Ain’t Happening.

OPINION: By Jeffrey A. Friedberg

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PICTURE: The Real USA General George S. Patton, With Ivory-Handle Revolver.

I have read articles. And I have read “Comments,” that follow the articles. I see references to, “a second civil war.”

I see calls for “molon labe…or for, ‘lock and load.’”

I am told that, “70 million Americans stand ready.” I see other militant opinions, and analyses.

But, in my opinion, there can be no “second civil war.”

Unless whoever commands America at that time is leading it.

If there were to be an armed uprising of any sort, the government — whoever might be in charge — would normally be duty-bound to end it. Put it down. Make arrests. And so-on.

For instance, if Donald Trump were President, it would be his job to suppress any armed revolution.

The same goes for any Democrat President.

That is — as stated, unless one, or the other, were leading it — leading a Second American Revolution. Or civil war.

In 1776, only about a third of the country supported the “First” American Revolution.

In 2019, would a third of America again stand up and fight? Given present differences between Americans during, say, World War II, and today’s Americans — no, I don’t think so.

Especially, since, today, there is no way to hide from an all-seeing Government eye. A super science that can read or hear your every word, recognize your face from space, or fly a Hellfire missile through your bedroom window.

There could be no “secret” meetings. No “underground.” No “spy network,” and no “hiding out among the people.” No “swimming like fish,” among them.

Because if the government doesn’t discover you, somebody on your street will damn sure report you.

Try congregating in groups, or “hardened” shelters, and see what happens. Try showing a gun, or wearing black or camo. Try practicing formations, marching, or training. Try “practice” shooting. Try those things and see how fast things happen.

Let’s be more realistic about all this.

You’re not gonna fight Them from your door. You’re not gonna fight them from your driveway. They could park a tank in front of your house. They could flood the neighborhood with armed troops or “violence suppression units,” and surround you.

You’re not gonna fight “enemy” leaders, by storming their redoubts, because they will be deep underground, in hidden, impervious, protected, well-guarded, government bunkers.

Being even more realistic, let’s say that In 2019, if a third of America were to support an armed revolution, that would be about 110,000,000 people. Enough to make an army? Of course.

But I, personally, doubt that would happen. Not as long as “folks” are comfy, have stuff in the fridge, families to consider, careers, new DC Universe movies, and the legacy media to keep them “informed.”

I mean most people would hide; not all of them, of course, but most would. The average person would probably want to keep their head down and “just live my life.”

Also, we are told that as many as 30,000,000 “folks” — here — are from other countries, and may not feel they owe any allegiance to America.

So — how many would stand up and fight?

I don’t think the entire balance of people would fight.

For the sake of conversation, let’s make things even more realistic, and cut that number of 110,000,000 in half. That leaves maybe 55,000,000. Still enough for an army? Yes. But would all that many “folks” stand and fight? Probably not — no.

Playing the odds, even cutting it in half again, to about 27,500,00, it’s still a lot of “folks.” Except, as stated, we are told some 30,000,000 are not even from here.

So — how many would actually stand and fight? What’s the size of this “army?” How many would be armed? How many would be trained? How many would know what to do against a trained and equipped opposition force? And I’m not talking about single-action, AR-15s, and 9mm Glocks.

I’m talking going up against tanks, missiles, artillery, helicopter gunships, and lots of really big, fully automatic, guns.

Oh — and where, exactly, do “folks” go to have this “revolution?” Who’s in charge? Who decides things? What’s the target? What are the rules of engagement?

PICTURE: The Real Face Of USA General George Washington. Reconstructed.

Who watches over them?

Where do they get drinking water and food?

How many tanks do they have? Jets, missiles, trucks. Where do they sleep?

I hear arguments that “ex-service people and police” — Patriots — stand armed, experienced and ready to fight. That there would — therefore — be no such opposing Force willing to kill fellow Americans.

Duh? What would these ex-service people and police be doing? Handing out pamphlets to the other side? It’s said these are the ones ready to fight. Who will they be fighting?

Will they be shooting people? Killing them? Or, will they be shooting “only to wound?” Just enough to make an example?

Would they really shoot Americans?

Of COURSE!

— There will always be people willing to shoot other people. No matter what “side” they may be on. No matter who they support — whether, the President, or Whomever else may be in charge.

Further, what if there are more than two armies, and not just the imagined, one army of Others, and one army of police, ex-servicemen, and additional “patriots?”

There have always been people ready to pull the trigger. There have always been people who thought it was patriotic, religious, orderly, or just plain fun. Killing would take place on both sides. On all sides.

What if religion or race created even more armies? And everyone had people who could pull the trigger?

What if some inflamed congressman or senator somehow got their hands on a nuclear weapon, and some “patriotic,” willing military, and decided to bomb a “conservative” city? We have already been told that can happen.

Where would this war start? Who would participate? What — or who — would be targeted? What’s the order of battle?

How could this war be ended? Who would be in charge to end it?

And then what? Who won? What System would be dominant? Democracy? Communism? Liberty? Equality? Fraternity? One World? How would that particular System be enforced? Who would enforce it?

Where would America have been — or be, all this time? What would happen to America’s leaders, traditions, Constitution, declarations, documents, and other guiding principles? Would America be poised to unfold like a newly majestic butterfly? Like a blazing phoenix rising from its own ashes?

Or would it be crumbling in some hidden bunker?

What’s the answer?

I don’t know.

I can only hope that Donald Trump exposes mighty powers now working against America. That the American people reject and shun them. That anyone who hates America will be dealt with legally, constitutionally, and finally, forever.

I can only hope there will be no second armed insurrection.

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: 2ndcivilwar; 2ndrevolution; cw2; cwii; secondcivilwar; secondrevolution
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1 posted on 10/07/2019 10:09:51 AM PDT by RArtfulogerDodger
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To: RArtfulogerDodger

The cities the libtards congregate in are terribly vulnerable. We need not organize (most “volunteers will be FBI), we need not communicate, we have supplied ourselves. All that is required is wreck the cities. Any way you can imagine. Shoot power transformers. Snipe 18 wheelers on Interstae circumferential. There are a million vulnerabilities to target. There are millions of us who would. We could have them begginig for mercy in a week.


2 posted on 10/07/2019 10:13:54 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: RArtfulogerDodger

That anyone who hates America will be dealt with legally, constitutionally, and finally, forever.

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Well, that’s never happened before so why expect it to now?


3 posted on 10/07/2019 10:15:39 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: RArtfulogerDodger

Civil Wars do not happen when people have lots of jobs to pick from, plentiful food and mass quantities of creature comforts as we do now.

Now if there should be another 2008 down the road and a major recession the bets are off the table.

I predict more of a Northern IRA situation of the 1970’s rather than a CWII. Bombings and asassinations and terror attacks from both sides.


4 posted on 10/07/2019 10:17:05 AM PDT by setter
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To: RArtfulogerDodger

writer does not understand assymetric warfare, and decentralized low profile command structure, who are not fooled by other fedgov types who are not to be trusted, and also NOT inclined to be pushed into stupid moves. No need. This is Texas hold em.


5 posted on 10/07/2019 10:18:34 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: RArtfulogerDodger

And the crap could have been writren in 1776 in the context of the technology at the time and the differences between the power of the British Empire and the lack of power the patriots had at their disposal.

This author’s position is weak at best.


6 posted on 10/07/2019 10:19:12 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Starboard

It’s time it happened legally.


7 posted on 10/07/2019 10:19:18 AM PDT by RArtfulogerDodger (peace, Love, and Joy To All, Especially Obama and Democrats)
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To: RArtfulogerDodger

It won’t be like that. The oppressors can’t hide underground forever. Find a couple and the rest will understand.


8 posted on 10/07/2019 10:19:48 AM PDT by bk1000 (I stand with Trump)
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To: setter

That’s said to be true. I’ve seen that elsewhere. Very good :)


9 posted on 10/07/2019 10:20:05 AM PDT by RArtfulogerDodger (peace, Love, and Joy To All, Especially Obama and Democrats)
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To: John S Mosby

Blah, bleah, blah—you’d be asymmetric for about 10 minutes until the gunships showed up :)


10 posted on 10/07/2019 10:21:18 AM PDT by RArtfulogerDodger (peace, Love, and Joy To All, Especially Obama and Democrats)
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To: setter

If the Left could SELECTIVELY freeze bank accounts, pensions and Social Security accounts, it would be bad.


11 posted on 10/07/2019 10:21:22 AM PDT by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: SoConPubbie

“Weak” according to you but correct :)


12 posted on 10/07/2019 10:22:06 AM PDT by RArtfulogerDodger (peace, Love, and Joy To All, Especially Obama and Democrats)
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To: RArtfulogerDodger

This entire article is utter crap. No thought and foresight, just “MUH MILITARY”


13 posted on 10/07/2019 10:22:33 AM PDT by Crazieman (Civil war is near certain now.)
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To: setter

agree with that assessment... while our sentiments are that America is peacefully put back together and this is solely am intellectual exercise, I think ‘the troubles’ are a better example of what could be in the future than two or more ‘regular’ armies of USA origin facing off in the mainland USA.

the latter requires very few participants and industry. the first requires massive amounts of each.


14 posted on 10/07/2019 10:22:54 AM PDT by Levy78
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To: Crazieman

You are indeed a “crazie man” :)

You silly thing :)


15 posted on 10/07/2019 10:23:22 AM PDT by RArtfulogerDodger (peace, Love, and Joy To All, Especially Obama and Democrats)
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To: Levy78

At last—a thinking person, not a wanton babbler.


16 posted on 10/07/2019 10:24:08 AM PDT by RArtfulogerDodger (peace, Love, and Joy To All, Especially Obama and Democrats)
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To: Starboard

I am not sure if the article is whistling past the grave yard, wishful thinking or projection?

TONS of examples all over the place of how and by whom organization is possible and happening..

Islamist training camps in the US, under the cover of religious retreats. Sending warriors out side the US for trainings.

Large scale, heavily armed cartel drug growing operations in forests.

Massive, well organized, well funded and equipped violent gangs.

Orgs like Antifa, Branch Davidians, etc.. All able to arm up , train and act, if desired..


17 posted on 10/07/2019 10:25:03 AM PDT by uranium penguin
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To: SoConPubbie

i believe i read that only about 3% of people were willing to fight, and who joined in that war- some say 10%


18 posted on 10/07/2019 10:25:46 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: RArtfulogerDodger

It’s almost past time, and the remaining time is getting closer to its expiration date.


19 posted on 10/07/2019 10:25:59 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: laplata

“If the Left could SELECTIVELY freeze bank accounts, pensions and Social Security accounts”

It could probably be done. Twitter, facefook, etc. can ban anyone they wish. I bet they would give any info they have to president lie-awatha or buttplug, and so on.


20 posted on 10/07/2019 10:26:07 AM PDT by dynachrome (Build the wall, deport them all. And send her back!)
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