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EXPLOSIVE – About All These “New” Positive COVID Cases – State Health Departments Manipulating Data, Changing Definitions..
Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 2, 2020 | Sundance

Posted on 07/04/2020 7:54:23 AM PDT by CheshireTheCat

This is very interesting. The document described in the video below is available HERE. Research into state health regulations by Fog City Midge shows that new guidance for the definition of COVID-19 positive infections is likely the biggest background cause in a dramatic upswing in positive test results. WATCH:

This revelation would explain exactly why those who construct the reporting systems are pushing so hard for contact tracing. According to the new guidance anyone who comes into contact with a person who tests positive is now also considered positive. [pdf link]

Nice convenient way to inflate the infection rate. The verified source is Here

In order to support the most important political objectives of the DNC writ large in the 2020 election, COVID-19 hype is essential...

(Excerpt) Read more at theconservativetreehouse.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Health/Medicine; Politics
KEYWORDS: 2020election; dnctalkingpoint; dnctalkingpoints; election2020; mediawingofthednc; partisanmediashills; presstitutes; smearmachine
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To: cornfedcowboy

Exactly. When you have millions of cases, it’s a fool’s errand to try to do contact tracing.


41 posted on 07/04/2020 9:54:35 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: semimojo

NYT-$1 Billion in Government Coronavirus Payments Went to Dead People

The report also criticized the C.D.C.’s counting of coronavirus tests, which combines tests for an active infection and those that detect antibodies. This practice inflates the percentage of Americans that appear to have been tested and gives an unreliable picture of the way the virus is spreading around the country, according to the new report.

After the C.D.C. was criticized last month for combining the two types of tests in its reports, the agency promised to separate them. But as of June 9, it had still not resolved the issue, the office reported.


42 posted on 07/04/2020 10:01:06 AM PDT by Bratch (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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To: Starboard; CheshireTheCat

Starboard wrote:

“I’m also struck by lack of interviews with people (i.e., media reporting) who have had it, what their symptoms were and how long it lasted. Basically the kind of information you provided.

The scarcity of such information and the ease with which it could be covered seems odd to me. Why aren’t we being informed about these experiences with COVID 19? It just seems that the focus is entirely on numbers only.”

Because the MSM doesn’t want people to know the reality.


43 posted on 07/04/2020 10:17:18 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: Starboard

Re: “Purely anecdotal on my part but I don’t hear anyone saying they know people who have it. Any similar observations? Just curious.”

I have the same experience.

I do not personally know even one person who has had this disease or died from it.

By the way - I live 10 miles from the Kirkland, WA, nursing home where this all started.


44 posted on 07/04/2020 10:24:11 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Starboard

I have heard of a number of people who have tested positive - in the tens - I have yet to know of ANY who have had symptoms...every single one was asymptomatic, didn’t know they had anything at all.


45 posted on 07/04/2020 10:27:20 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast (That thing you think is privilege is really sweat equity.)
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To: Bratch
The report also criticized the C.D.C.’s counting of coronavirus tests, which combines tests for an active infection and those that detect antibodies.

They had an issue where some states were combining the two types of tests in their case counts. I think all the states are reporting separately now.

This could inflate cases if someone was reported based on a positive PCR test and later got a antibody test, but the same thing can happen if someone gets two positive PCR tests.

The CDC acknowledges this issue but as a practical matter it's not going to account for many duplicates and it's still only going to count people who have been proven to have been infected.

It's nothing like the insane false claim that they're arbitrarily increasing the count by 17x for each positive test.

46 posted on 07/04/2020 10:34:16 AM PDT by semimojo
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To: Starboard

“Any similar observations? Just curious.”

I know two people who have had it, but they don’t live anywhere near us.

My county of 24K has had 31 cases, NO deaths, not even a single hospitalization from this ‘flu’ and no nursing home incidents.

We’re either doing everything right, or we’re just living our lives through a normal flu season.

(I’m saying it’s the latter!)


47 posted on 07/04/2020 10:51:32 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: Cobra64

Contact tracing is epidemiology 101. Except for AIDS, of course, where the disease vectors are a privileged class.


48 posted on 07/04/2020 10:53:44 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: cherry

I used to think so as well until I started actually separating real facts from his theories. Remember, he announces that he is right when he declares his theories proven, not necessarily when they are actually proven in fact.

Under his theories of proof, no one would ever be wrong.

Google him and read about his many times he is out to lunch.


49 posted on 07/04/2020 10:55:54 AM PDT by Okeydoker
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To: Starboard

My first circle (ie friends and relatives) no, just one person who got way back at the beginning. Second circle though (friends of first circle) yes, a few. Including deaths.


50 posted on 07/04/2020 10:58:20 AM PDT by discostu (Like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: CheshireTheCat
I don't see any evidence of any spike in cases in this report directly from the CDC, dated July 3, 2020.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/faq-surveillance.html

And download the PDF report with this:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/pdf/covidview-07-03-2020.pdf

51 posted on 07/04/2020 11:17:38 AM PDT by Grandpa Drudge (Just an old man, desperate to preserve our great country for my grandchildren.)
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To: CheshireTheCat
Use of the FDA Approved positive lab IgG or IgM does NOT identify a new case. IgG antibodies are produced late during the recovery process, and IgM antibodies are the immunity antibodies that protect you from future infection. These cannot be considered "new" cases.

An increase in FDA Approved positive lab IgG or IgM test is very good news, as it represents an increase in "herd immunity" which is nature's way of protecting humans from viruses.

52 posted on 07/04/2020 11:32:40 AM PDT by Grandpa Drudge (Just an old man, desperate to preserve our great country for my grandchildren.)
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To: CheshireTheCat

I think I have had it twice now.
Didden amount to nuttin.


53 posted on 07/04/2020 11:43:52 AM PDT by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our only true hope.)
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To: CheshireTheCat

This is very annoying. For research purposes, definitions and such should remain considered. Seems there is a lot of subjectivity going on.


54 posted on 07/04/2020 11:49:59 AM PDT by Chgogal (ALL lives matter. If you disagree with me, YOU are the racist.)
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To: Starboard

I can say the same. Don’t know anyone who has it. The funny thing is, 3000 people died on 911 and it was common to run into someone who was directly affected.

With covid, 10s of thousands supposedly affected and nobody knows anybody?


55 posted on 07/04/2020 12:19:53 PM PDT by PrairieLady2
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To: CheshireTheCat; Starboard; null and void; RummyChick; Jane Long; mrsmith; saintgermaine; ...

Here is a preliminary report related to testing HCQ, zinc, and Azithromycin, versus HCQ and Azithromycin without zinc. Many intelligent comments strongly supportive of the importance of using zinc with an ionophore like Hydroxychloroquine. Also how unfortunate that in many ways zinc has been ignored or sidelined rather than used. So far as I’m concerned their arguments also apply in many ways to failure to use VItamins C and D3 in EARLY treatment, as well as for immunity support.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.02.20080036v1


56 posted on 07/04/2020 10:42:40 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: Mouton; Cobra64; mewzilla; sphinx; null and void; RummyChick; mrsmith; bgill; saintgermaine; All

Of course there was contact tracing for HIV, just as there has been for tuberculosis and syphilis. GIven that there were criminal laws regarding gay behavior in the early days it was more difficult to trace than more recently when in addition to the change in many laws, there is also successful long term treatment. One of the ways that S. Korea achieved rapid results was with aggressive contact tracing. When I Googled contact tracing for HIV, there were a lot of articles. Below is one sample:

https://www.aclu.org/news/hiv/contact-tracing-and-covid-19-lessons-from-hiv/


57 posted on 07/04/2020 10:57:37 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: LibertyWoman

Who else will be reporting this besides ‘conservative outlets’? no one


A LOT of people.

This article was actually sent to me by someone NOT on FR.

They also shared it with people who are pretty much apolitical.

Are you arguing with the actual merits of the information contained in the article, or, that it’s CTH?
The drive by hit, on CTH, is unbecoming.

Geez.

Oh, and welcome to FR, btw.


58 posted on 07/05/2020 5:51:59 AM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: gleeaikin

I remember that in the early days of the HIV outbreak, public health authorities initially moved to treat it like any other communicable disease. This would include routine contact tracing. There was furious pushback from both of the primary risk groups and many public health officials pulled back. This was at the same time that the homosexual community was going ballistic about the proposed closing of the gay bath houses in New York, San Francisco and other hotspots. The IV drug users were not as publicly outspoken as the gay community, but their “privacy advocates” were active. The Reagan administration also came in for severe bashing because of its allegedly cruel and stigmatizing effort to do contact tracing. I’m sure that’s what a lot of people here will remember; turning AIDS into a political issue and making it an offensive weapon against people trying to do the right thing is the kind of thing that will leave an enduring memory. I presume that this all got sorted out in the end, but a lot of people died unnecessarily because the primary risk groups were more interested in protecting and pursuing their addictions than in public health. Contact tracing probably got easier once the older generation of bath house regulars had mostly died off. That didn’t take too long. The successor generation was newer at the game and its habits were less deeply rooted.


59 posted on 07/05/2020 6:37:06 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: Jane Long

Thanks!


60 posted on 07/05/2020 9:06:56 AM PDT by LibertyWoman
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