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Remembering JFK and PT-109 (a personal post)
https://freedom-demokrasi-and-civilised-humanity.com ^ | 2nd August 2021 australian time | OzGuy!945

Posted on 08/01/2021 11:43:56 PM PDT by Ozguy1945

In Australia's socialist left governed police state of Victoria, a man can be arrested for lobbying a female politician for World War Two memorial tree plantings.

A man can be hauled before a family violence court if a woman does not like the way he looks at her.

The police can throw a religious man in jail for conducting a mass. (Cardinal George Pell)

The price of liberty IS eternal vigilance against the dangers of leftist crap.

Remembering and honoring the heroes of WW2 is one way to oppose modern PC political stupidity.


TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: blogpimp; demokrasi; heritage; itsdemocracy; jfk; pt109; ww2
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1 posted on 08/01/2021 11:43:56 PM PDT by Ozguy1945
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To: Ozguy1945

Australia’s WW2 unions weren’t always on the side of the Allies!


2 posted on 08/02/2021 2:17:14 AM PDT by Does so (The Media is the enemy of the people...Trial lawyers close behind...)
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To: Ozguy1945
Excerpt contains no mention to PT-109 or JFK.

Regards,

3 posted on 08/02/2021 3:26:44 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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JFK and PT109 are not the best example. Remember, he got run over by a Japanese destroyer. Celebrate instead the defenders of Wake Island who held the Japanese at bay and delayed their progress.


4 posted on 08/02/2021 4:03:56 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Jimmy Valentine; Ozguy1945
JFK and PT109 are not the best example. Remember, he got run over by a Japanese destroyer.

Yes, quite true. I agree. But the title of the article is:

Remembering JFK and PT-109

He is certainly entitled to post an article on that subject (and would hopefully detail JFK's incompetence, etc.). I just don't understand why there is absolutely no mention in the first five paragraphs.

Regards,

5 posted on 08/02/2021 4:20:56 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Ozguy1945
In 1983, I traveled to Australia to brief the Ministry of Defense on a joint project we needed their help in accomplishing. We got the help we needed and the project was a success - and while we were in Melbourne, we all went to Australia's War Memorial museum (which is spectacular: a complete Lancaster bomber inside the building!).

While I was wandering around in my uniform (I was a Marine Major back then), I was accosted by a young woman from an antiwar group who seized on me and loud and annoying and soon we had a crowd around us as she accused the United States of "committing wars all over the world and that Reagan was a madman with his finger on the nuclear trigger and to Australians, the Yanks aren't any better than the bloody Russians!".

At that point, I had had enough and despite the large crowd now packed around us, I said loudly "stop! - while your young men were protecting Britain around Tobruk, our young men were fighting to defend Australia from the Japanese. I just came from Darwin where I saw the wreckage of a US P-40 where a young American man gave his life for Australia - when was the last time a Russian gave his life for Australia?"

I braced myself for the inevitable backlash from the crowd, but it turned out that the majority were American tourists and I got applause instead of jeers - and that young women slunk off.

6 posted on 08/02/2021 4:23:51 AM PDT by Chainmail (Frater magnus te spectat)
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Several years ago, I met Dick Keresey, the former skipper of PT-105, who was in Blakett Straits That night when JFK's boat got run down.

According to him, only half of the boats had radar and earlier in the evening (it was a very black night), only the radar boats fired their torpedos at a string of Japanese destroyers intel had said were coming - missed them - and then the returned to base.

The remaining boats didn't have radar, which included PT-109 and PT-105 and they stayed at their posts waiting for the Japs to come back through.

According to him, JFK had put the crew on 50% watch, so half were sleeping and the Japanese suddenly returned and the IJN Amagiri was almost on top of them by the time they saw her. JFK allegedly ran the throttles to "full" but the mufflers were closed and the engines stalled during those critical seconds and they got cut in half.

According to Keresey, it was a kind of "new guy" mistake and he didn't blame him - but he did blame the radar boats for leaving the area and making all the remaining boats blind.

7 posted on 08/02/2021 4:34:33 AM PDT by Chainmail (Frater magnus te spectat)
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To: Chainmail
Great post. If there's one thing I learned during my 8 years on active duty, it's that anything can happen when you're in the field...and multiply that a hundredfold if you're in combat.

I take a dim view of those who seek to denigrate JFK's actions during WWII. Compare that to the draft dodging Bill Clinton, and you'll see how far America has fallen.

8 posted on 08/02/2021 4:39:12 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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To: Chainmail

In a forum some years back, an Australian woman went off on me about the US US military.

I replied “If it wasn’t for the US in WW2, your childhood would have been spent growing up in a Japanese brothel. You’re welcome.”


9 posted on 08/02/2021 4:45:03 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A Leftist can't enjoy life unless they are controlling, hurting, or destroying others)
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To: Night Hides Not
I take a dim view of those who seek to denigrate JFK's actions during WWII. Compare that to the draft dodging Bill Clinton, and you'll see how far America has fallen.

Sad, but true. I have often said America's serious spiral downward started with the election of Bill Clinton. With the election of his Democrat party successors, the downward spiral accelerated rapidly each time. Biden may finish off the US.
10 posted on 08/02/2021 5:28:02 AM PDT by Dan in Wichita
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To: Chainmail

Last year I read a novel called “The Hooligans” by retired US Navy Captain PT Dueterman.

It was a piece of fiction but included a great deal of history of the Hooligan Navy who operated the PT Boats.

It seems these guys were the motorcycle gang of the navy. Strictly following the rules wasn’t their thing but they were rather effective at their craft.

In other words, McHale’s Navy was somewhat a documentary.

For some reason I always admired the PT boats. When I was in college, I was on a summer mission project with Campus Crusade for Christ in Wildwood, NJ. We also had summer jobs. Mine was working on the crew of a tour boat. The owner had a WWII mine sweeper tied to the dock. It was a project boat he never worked on. The sweeper was essentially a PT boat with a different purpose. It was an amazing looking craft.

Another tour boat was an actual repurposed PT boat. The owners late father owned it at one time.


11 posted on 08/02/2021 5:40:01 AM PDT by cyclotic (Live your life in such a way that they hate you as much as they hated Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Ozguy1945

He got some of his crew killed by not getting out of the way of a slower Japanese ship.

And don’t forget why he was there in the first place - they had to get him away from his Nazi spy lover.


12 posted on 08/02/2021 5:58:17 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: Chainmail

Thank you for a great post AND for your service!!!


13 posted on 08/02/2021 6:43:51 AM PDT by telescope115 (Proud member of the ANTIFAuci movement. )
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To: Jimmy Valentine

Kennedys

Can’t Drive
Can’t Fly
Can’t Ski
Can’t Skipper a boat

But they know what’s best for us.


14 posted on 08/02/2021 6:45:13 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Night Hides Not

I take a dim view of those who seek to denigrate JFK’s actions during WWII. Compare that to the draft dodging Bill Clinton, and you’ll see how far America has fallen.


Spot on. Kennedy, like Jimmy Stewart begged and pleaded to come on active duty and serve our Country during World War II. Stewart flew combat missions as a B-24 pilot stationed with the 8th in England. JFK displayed his leadership and devotion in saving the lives of all but two of his crew.
Unlike the scum we have elected President since then, JFK is one of the best...along with Truman, Reagan and Trump.


15 posted on 08/02/2021 6:56:12 AM PDT by AFret.
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To: Night Hides Not

Thank you for your service as well!
My dad was in the Pacific. Didn’t see combat, but was part of the occupation force in Japan after the war.
One of my uncles was wounded at Guadalcanal, saw a lot of his buddies die. He recovered and was sent to Bougainville. Came home, raised a family and had a successful business, as did my Dad as well. Uncle Mike lived to be 101. They were both Army.
They were truly the Greatest Generation.


16 posted on 08/02/2021 6:58:43 AM PDT by telescope115 (Proud member of the ANTIFAuci movement. )
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To: Night Hides Not

*If there’s one thing I learned during my 8 years on active duty, it’s that anything can happen when you’re in the field...*

Tell that to the parents of Ashlee Babbitt.


17 posted on 08/02/2021 7:28:13 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: Jimmy Valentine

Hey watch this he got run over by a Japanese destroyer yep he’s a Kennedy all right.


18 posted on 08/02/2021 7:41:15 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: Vaduz

There was a story that he was going to be courtmartialed over that. His father turned it around and got him a medal. No doubt JFK loved his country but his fat youngest brother had no business running in ‘80. Growing up just what was ever expected of him?


19 posted on 08/02/2021 7:56:59 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: DIRTYSECRET

The subject is JFK, not Ashley Babbit. SMDH


20 posted on 08/02/2021 8:00:05 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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