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A Surpising About-Face in New York as Governor Hochul Requires More Detailed COVID Hospitalization Reporting: Differentiate hospitalization because of Covid vs. hospitalization then testing positive for Covid
Red State ^ | 01/04/2022 | Kate Paul Dillon

Posted on 01/04/2022 6:41:48 PM PST by SeekAndFind

As her state experiences increased pressure on the hospital and medical systems, New York Governor Kathy Hochul has issued an order intended to bring more clarity to COVID hospitalization data. The order will require hospitals to report whether a patient has been hospitalized for COVID-related reasons or has simply tested positive for COVID while at the hospital for other treatments.

“Someone is in a car accident, and they go to the emergency room and they test positive for COVID while they’re there,” said Hochul, “They’re not being treated for COVID.” A surprising sentiment, particularly to people who have been saying something similar since the beginning of the pandemic when data on hospitalizations became a driving indicator in state and national health policies.

Hochul herself has been spot-calling many hospitals in her state, saying that when asked how many cases were hospitalized for other reasons but tested positive for COVID, the numbers ranged from “20 to sometimes 50 percent.”

As time moved on, we learned that not only can vaccinated individuals carry and transmit COVID, but have breakthrough infections themselves. Therefore, it is important to begin implementing measures that give public health officials – and the public itself– a clearer picture of the pandemic and their local health systems’ resources.

Hochul’s most recent request for increased data transparency isn’t her first, as she has previously made efforts to undo the piecemeal data reporting done under Governor Cuomo.

Giving more context to the data on COVID hospitalizations will help the state parse the load on the healthcare system and give a more accurate representation of the effects of Delta and Omicron. It also addresses a long-time concern of many data scientists, those in the medical community, and others about the limitations of the data we currently collect. It is just unfortunate that it took nearly two years into the pandemic before New York, or any state, had expressly pushed for increased clarity and depth in their data reporting.

Hopefully, Governor Hochul and New York will only be the beginning of a trend where state-level data, as well as the data required and collected by the CDC, becomes far less superficial, and far more informative. It would be particularly helpful too, if Governor Hochul is listening, to require a clearer definition of what constitutes COVID deaths, just as data in admissions might now become clearer.



TOPICS: Government; Health/Medicine; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: covid; hochul; hospitalization; newyork
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1 posted on 01/04/2022 6:41:48 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I wouldn’t trust the motivation.


2 posted on 01/04/2022 6:46:22 PM PST by WKUHilltopper
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To: SeekAndFind

Sounds like spiking the numbers is starting to backfire a bit in NY.


3 posted on 01/04/2022 6:46:27 PM PST by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here.)
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To: SeekAndFind
As time moved on, we learned that not only can vaccinated individuals carry and transmit COVID, but have breakthrough infections themselves.

This was not learned. This was suspected and known by some for sure from the beginning and people and their posts were banned from Facebook and Twitter and the like for stating this. Only now has this somewhat become common knowledge ( I say somewhat as someone was just banned recently wthin the last several weeks from the View for stating as much) as the obvious truth cannot now be denied.

4 posted on 01/04/2022 6:49:57 PM PST by frogjerk (I will not do business with fascists)
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To: SeekAndFind

The “Count everything as covid” policy seems to be falling apart.


5 posted on 01/04/2022 6:51:18 PM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same. )
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To: SeekAndFind

Well of course, now that the vaccinated are being hospitalized and dying at a higher rate. They have to tamp down those numbers.

It was fine to count WITH covid stats when it was all “unvaxxed”. No need for clarity back then 🙄🙄🙄


6 posted on 01/04/2022 6:53:14 PM PST by LilFarmer
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To: SeekAndFind

brief moment of mental clarity...


7 posted on 01/04/2022 6:54:13 PM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: Darksheare

Using the previous rules to make Trump look bad is now making the dems look bad. Time to change the rules. Shazam! Look at how things got better.


8 posted on 01/04/2022 6:54:31 PM PST by Dutch Boy (The only thing worse than having something taken from you is to have it returned broken. )
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To: SeekAndFind
Not going to work. What hospital is going to report so many non-COVID patients arriving and then catching COVID while there?

Everyone going to a New York hospital is going to show as COVID positive on entry.

9 posted on 01/04/2022 6:58:02 PM PST by T.B. Yoits
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To: Dutch Boy

Exactly, must end by mid-terms.


10 posted on 01/04/2022 7:01:00 PM PST by Sparky1776
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To: SeekAndFind

Will she kill fewer NYers than Cuomo?


11 posted on 01/04/2022 7:04:54 PM PST by Paladin2
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RE: Everyone going to a New York hospital is going to show as COVID positive on entry.

Exactly what is the incentive for doing that?


12 posted on 01/04/2022 7:07:30 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

She’s simply COPYING DESANTIS IN FLORIDA:

https://www.yahoo.com/now/desantis-urges-hospitals-distinguish-those-193201506.html

COPYCAT!


13 posted on 01/04/2022 7:08:25 PM PST by House Atreides
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To: Sparky1776
Exactly, must end by mid-terms.

Notice that she was never elected to be a governor, she is up for elections this year, and she might be facing a strong challenger too -- Pataki was making noises about coming out of retirement to crush another Cuomo.. which he cannot do anymore of course, but he still might come out.

Prudent to be very careful.

14 posted on 01/04/2022 7:15:51 PM PST by mvonfr
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To: Sparky1776
Exactly, must end by mid-terms.

Notice that she was never elected to be a governor, she is up for elections this year, and she might be facing a strong challenger too -- Pataki was making noises about coming out of retirement to crush another Cuomo.. which he cannot do anymore of course, but he still might come out.

Prudent to be very careful.

15 posted on 01/04/2022 7:15:51 PM PST by mvonfr
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To: SeekAndFind

Modified limited hangout that doesn’t address nosocomial spread by vaxxed superspreader healthcare employees.


16 posted on 01/04/2022 7:22:24 PM PST by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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To: Paladin2

We don’t know how many people in NYS have actually died from CoupFlu.

I’m betting that it’s far less than claimed.

NYS has been goosing the case count way up all along. It makes sense they’d need to do the same with the supposed death toll.

In any case, elections aren’t the only things in need of an audit.


17 posted on 01/04/2022 7:24:52 PM PST by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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To: SeekAndFind

As long as they continue to pay bonuses for COVID patients, they will continue to code patients as having COVID.


18 posted on 01/04/2022 7:34:43 PM PST by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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To: SeekAndFind

Moving those goal posts again.


19 posted on 01/04/2022 7:53:05 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: SeekAndFind

Everyone going to a New York hospital is going to show as COVID positive on entry so that the hospital can avoid being identified as a superspreader location.


20 posted on 01/05/2022 4:13:13 AM PST by T.B. Yoits
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