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'America First 2.0': Vivek Ramaswamy Continues to Impress, Rolls out Bold 25-Point Plan; Bottom Line-- His Policies Make Too Much Sense for Republicans to Overlook
Red State ^ | 04/14/2023 | Mike Miller

Posted on 04/14/2023 8:04:21 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Actually, your answer is only relevant to yourself. My question is relevant to what’s constitutional.


61 posted on 04/15/2023 9:21:46 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: usconservative

I simply wouldn’t trust him. He can talk a good game but when push came to shove he would back his own people over white Christian Americans.


62 posted on 04/15/2023 9:37:36 AM PDT by escapefromboston (Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.)
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To: SeekAndFind

—> My question is relevant to what’s constitutional.

Both are Constutional.

Choose wisely.


63 posted on 04/15/2023 9:49:27 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

I believe your original question was conversion to true faith in Christ, which if I read the constitution correctly, is not a requirement to be President.

But yes, I agree, choose wisely ( whether the candidate is a true Christian convert or not ).


64 posted on 04/15/2023 10:34:21 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
I believe your original question was conversion to true faith in Christ, which if I read the constitution correctly, is not a requirement to be President.

The Constitution provides the minimum number of restrictions to allow someone to serve as president.

As such, it provides the greatest amount of freedom for citizens to follow their own criteria.

Pursue happiness as you choose.

65 posted on 04/15/2023 10:36:28 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

RE: The Constitution provides the minimum number of restrictions to allow someone to serve as president.

This of course DOES NOT include conversion to Christianity, which was your original question. Don’t get me wrong, I would be happy to see him become a Christian, but absent that, I prefer him to be a solid defender and abided of our constitution.


66 posted on 04/15/2023 10:39:34 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
This of course DOES NOT include conversion to Christianity, which was your original question.

But the question I asked was not a Constitutional question of requirements to serve, but an exercise of my rights to evaluate a candidate.

67 posted on 04/15/2023 10:44:29 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: SeekAndFind

Didn’t say anything about his policies. I said I didn’t like America First 2.0 i.e the “label”.

The 2.0 is asinine.


68 posted on 04/15/2023 10:52:31 AM PDT by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: maddog55

RE: The 2.0 is asinine.

I think the 2.0 was deliberate on Vivek’s part to try to enhance and improve on what 1.0 did not mention or deal with. It’s a marketing strategy.


69 posted on 04/15/2023 11:14:15 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

RE: But the question I asked was not a Constitutional question of requirements to serve, but an exercise of my rights to evaluate a candidate.

But your personal right to whoever you want to vote for, Christian or otherwise, was never in question. It’s Vivek’s QUALIFICATIONS that should be at issue here, and his being a Christian isn’t. His being a constitutionalist is.


70 posted on 04/15/2023 11:17:30 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

—> But your personal right to whoever you want to vote for, Christian or otherwise, was never in question. It’s Vivek’s QUALIFICATIONS that should be at issue here

Disagree.

One qualification to get my vote is that a candidate adheres to Judeo-Christian values.

• He can run legally.

• He can earn my vote when he converts to Christianity.

Both true.

The second is unknown, which is why that was my question.


71 posted on 04/15/2023 1:03:59 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: dfwgator

He was a successful businessman first, before becoming a vote sucking politician! In that regard very Trump-like!

That’s something I like!


72 posted on 04/15/2023 1:14:51 PM PDT by Reily (!!)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

RE: one qualification to get my vote is that a candidate adheres to Judeo-Christian

I am not interested in your particular vote. No one can control who you want to vote for. I am more interested in what the MAJORITY should vote for.

If you want your president to be a Christian that is your prerogative. Nobody can do anything about what you personally prefer.

Suppose by some fluke, Vivek becomes the candidate, what OUGHT to be the criteria by which the majority OUGHT to evaluate him? His personal religion? Or his adherence to our founding?

It is this OUGHTNESS that interests me, not your personal preference for him being a Christian.

I don’t know him that well other than the policies he claims to espouse. But I will argue that adherence to our founding principles and constitution should be the main criteria for judging him, not his stated religion


73 posted on 04/15/2023 1:16:49 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

—> I don’t know him that well other than the policies he claims to espouse. But I will argue that adherence to *our founding principles and constitution* should be the main criteria for judging him, not his stated religion

Which are rooted rooted in a Jude’s-Christian world view.

Has he converted to those or is he worshipping pagan idols and cows?


74 posted on 04/15/2023 1:27:04 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

RE: Which are rooted rooted in a Jude’s-Christian world view.

PRECICESLY. So, if he adheres to the constitution, by DEFAULT he adheres to Judaea-Christian values.

As for worshipping Jesus, based on my quarter of a century working with Indians in my career, I can say that Jesus is one of the manifestations of Vishnu, the incarnated god that they worship. So, they respect and deify Jesus and even celebrate Christmas.

Morally, other than the first, second and fourth commandments, Hindus accept 7 of the 10 commandments given to Moses.

It is a stereotype that all Hindus worship cows. They, by tradition avoid beef but are tolerant of people who eat beef stake.

I don’t know how bringing these trivial things up have to do with the job of the President.


75 posted on 04/15/2023 1:37:04 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Yeah, we see it differently, and that’s OK.

But if he converts from paganism to Christianity, I’d sure like to know. PM me.


76 posted on 04/15/2023 2:12:13 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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To: SeekAndFind

Agree but like I said it sounds like the My Pillow guys my pillow 2.0.

America First doesn’t need versions like software. It’s America First...... period.


77 posted on 04/15/2023 4:05:06 PM PDT by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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