Posted on 08/28/2023 5:28:11 PM PDT by delta7
NATO military chief US Gen Christopher Cavoli and British Admiral Sir Tony Radakin traveled to the Polish-Ukrainian border ten days ago for a crisis meeting with the Ukrainian chief military commander Gen. Valerii Zaluzhnyi, for what was privately billed as “a council of war”, The Guardian reported.
The meeting was “no ordinary discussion”, The Guardian writes. “Zaluzhnyi brought his entire command team with him on the roughly 300-mile journey from Kyiv. The aim of the five-hour meeting was to help reset Ukraine’s military strategy – top of the agenda was what to do about the halting progress of Ukraine’s counteroffensive, along with battle plans for the gruelling winter ahead plus longer-term strategy as the war inevitably grinds into 2024.”
British sources are “reluctant to say much about the outcome of the meeting at the border,” The Guardian security editor in Kyiv Dan Sabbagh writes. “But the indications from the west is that the strategy has changed as a result of the discussions. “I think you can see they are focusing on the Zaporizhzhia front,” said one insider, amid reports of fresh Ukrainian attacks aimed at the city of Tokmak, an initial step towards reaching the Sea of Azov, thereby cutting the land bridge to Crimea.”
Since June 4, Ukrainian forces have been engaged in a bloody and mostly fruitless counteroffensive. Russia estimated Ukrainian losses at 43,000 early August, and has since claimed over 14,000 Ukrainian casualties in daily briefings, putting total Ukrainian losses in the counteroffensive at over 57,000 and in the whole war at over 400,000. Russian losses are estimated at around 50,000 men.
Top brass in the USA and NATO now fear the Ukrainian armed forces are “incapable of breaking through Russia’s defensive lines to reach Melitopol and the Sea of Azov,” Russia’s Nezavisimaya Gazeta writes.
As the end of the fighting season in Ukraine approaches, Western brass are “nudging their proteges in the Ukrainian armed forces toward making preparations for 2024”, Nezavisimaya Gazeta writes.
“The new strategy of the Ukrainian armed forces will prioritize the formation and deployment of new human reserves. Kiev’s new military plan for 2024 also calls for developing full-fledged combat-ready aviation units, in cooperation with the Pentagon and NATO. Ukraine has been force-conscripting young men off the street and sending them into the “Meat Grinder” of the three-tiered Russian defences with little training or leadership.
The longer Ukraine’s counteroffensive goes on, the more difficult it is for the US to maintain its support in political terms, Bloomberg reported. If fighting grinds to an impasse over the winter, “it’s a really big problem, there’s going to be war fatigue,” Samantha de Bendern, associate fellow at the Royal Institute of International Affairs, told Bloomberg. “The U.S. is going to be less and less interested in what’s happening in Ukraine and it’s going to be more and more difficult for Europeans to convince the Americans that Ukraine is an American problem.”
Bloomberg noted Russia has enough ammunition for at another year of fighting, with the Kremlin deploying new troops on the front lines. “More than two months into its counteroffensive, Kiev has made only tactical advances against heavily dug-in Russian forces, despite having committed many units trained and armed by the US and Europe for the operation. The window for further significant actions is narrowing as wet and cold weather looms in the autumn,” Bloomberg wrote.
The Fat lady should be ready to sing shortly.
400,000 vs 50,000 in losses. I’m doubtful on that 8 to 1 ratio. Not that I have a dog in the fight.
Ooo - Ruzzia is on the run!
Tactically this whole thing has been run stupidly on both sides with what NOT to do to win a war.
maybe they should draft hunter
Try to spin the failure of the Ukrainian Great Summer Offensive.
I’m sure that when the Ukrainians heard the English word offensive they thought it just meant farting in church.
Except for references to Bloomberg at the end, the source of every “fact” in this article is “Russia says”.
I wonder how the Biden Regime is going to explain their disinformation, misinformation, and malinformation from themselves and the Pentegon regarding this war?
I don’t like proxy wars.
You get the US, the UK, and NATO meeting in Poland with the Ukrainian military leadership, all plotting how they can defeat Russia on the battlefield.
We pretend that the US is not currently at war with Russia, but I say we are and I say it’s a stupid thing for us to do.
A day or 2 ago, Tucker Carlson said to a group of stunned (anti Russians) “you will he shocked to hear that most Americans believe Ukraine has been winning this war”
Ha ha!
Lol!
My sides!
The MoFo is delusional.
Call Biden, he needs your support and love right now.
This is my attempt to show compassion to all the neocon Zeeper fools.... I feel your pain but my eyes are dry. You guys are the biggest suckers on the planet!
How is our Southern border?
As this unwinds they’ll use the Afghanistan model, and let the media run interference while they distract Boobus America with phony emergencies. UFOs, COVID redux, Trump imprisonment, it won’t take much to get everyone fighting with each other.
From 1943-1945 the Germans were in a constant state of tactical retreat. Their most effective tactic was to create strong points with multilayered defenses at critical junctions. The Russians took huge casualties attacking and taking those points. The Russians to their credit learned and remembered the costly lessons they learned. You really have to wonder what the US/British generals were thinking if they advised the Ukrainians to mount this “counter offensive”.
They didn't dare step one foot inside Ukraine.
Throughout the second half of the 20th century, the realities of WW II in Europe have been ignored in history.
Simply put, the war was over in January 1943. Germany and its allies lost nearly 900K troops to death and surrender at Stalingrad. No country that size can take that loss and have any further chance.
It renders D-Day somewhat unimportant and all the Allied troop advances the same. The war was already over, won by the Soviets at the chokepoint for their oil supply.
Over a 10 year period about 18 million men served in the German war machine. And over that 10 year period about 11 million died. 10% of that number was in a couple of weeks period in late 1942 early 1943 at Stalingrad.
It’s just too large a loss for anything after to matter.
Thousands of Military age Ukraine males fled to Poland.
Poland should deport them en Mass back to Ukraine.
Let Zelensky send them to the Front Lines.
They didn’t dare step one foot inside Ukraine.
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Exactly. Vlad did again launch another massive attack all across Ukraine last night, as far as Lvov ( the Ukie Polish border). I wonder why the western MSM omits these large, nightly attacks? Kinda ruins their narrative Ivan is out men and ammo….
Which brings us to the latest, the Brits Storm Shadow missiles are almost depleted, a large percentage were wiped out by Vlad’s strikes , such a shame as the Brit MOD also stated it will take years to replace ( much like our US manufacturers have repeatedly stated) ..such a shame.
On another note: a supersonic Kinzhal struck yet another Ukie/ NATO? command center, developing. That said, Vlads KH35’s ( and KH 101) supersonic missiles have been absent recently, fueling speculation they will be used in Vlad’s upcoming northern offensive. Vlad’s KH 50’s are unknown due to their stealth and hypersonic speed….
More:
https://theduran.locals.com/index.php
That said, as the Ukie grand offensive has failed miserably, many men and machines eliminated, the reported Russian grand offensive is most assuredly around the corner….keep your eyes on the Oskol river….
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It’s not a pretty picture.
Zelensky bought a Luxury home on the coast of Egypt, he’s cancelling Elections, and Lindsey Graham is there with him twice a month.
Someone said, Send Hunter. Hunter doesn’t even carry his own luggage into Biden Donors $20 Million dollar houses where he’s staying.
I saw Video, dude can’t even carry his own luggage, and Ukraine is the typical Biden disaster.
I wonder how the Biden Regime is going to explain their disinformation, misinformation, and malinformation from themselves and the Pentegon regarding this war
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Exactly how senile Joe explained his Covid vax hoax-vax injuries, vax deaths and shut downs-he didn’t.
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