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The Federal Reserve’s recent actions have raised concerns that they may have intentionally engineered the most significant financial crisis in a century.
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Posted on 09/21/2023 12:17:08 PM PDT by davikkm

This crisis has unfolded by design, leading to significant shifts in market expectations and Fed policy.

In a recent development, the 10-Year Note Yield has surged to 4.45%, a level not seen since November 2007. Markets have adjusted rapidly to this change, with rate cuts no longer being priced in until September 2024. Just three months ago, the expectation was for four rate cuts by the end of 2023, but now the possibility of another rate hike by December is back on the table, and rate cuts are not expected for a year.

This shift indicates that the Fed is more hawkish than anticipated. They’ve held the benchmark rate within the 5.25-5.5% target range, with 12 officials foreseeing one more hike this year and 7 expecting it to remain on hold. Median rate forecasts for 2023 and 2024 have also changed, indicating a more aggressive stance.

The 10-year yields are hitting 16-year highs, potentially signaling concerns about inflation. Historically, the Fed’s policies have influenced markets mainly through their statements. However, over the past two years, a growing number of market participants have become skeptical of the Fed’s intentions, leading to a lack of confidence in their guidance. To bring inflation back under control, the Fed must regain the confidence of the markets, which is now a significant challenge.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Politics
KEYWORDS: crisis; economy; fed; federalreserve; fedrate; financialcrisis
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1 posted on 09/21/2023 12:17:08 PM PDT by davikkm
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To: davikkm

Duh?


2 posted on 09/21/2023 12:20:07 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: davikkm

Of course they have.

How else can they steal all the peasants’ money?


3 posted on 09/21/2023 12:23:30 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: davikkm

The day will come, and is already here, when the Federal Reserve is the object of a type of engineering. Of the terminal kind.


4 posted on 09/21/2023 12:24:13 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the personal implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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To: davikkm
The Federal Reserve’s recent actions have raised concerns that they may have intentionally engineered the most significant financial crisis in a century.

this was predicted by Milton Friedman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_nGEj8wIP0

Recorded at University of San Diego & San Diego Chamber of Commerce ©1978

27:16 min

"In the United States, we have also had, and in most countries, a third less important factor that has contributed to excessive increases in the quantity of money, and that has been mistaken policies by the central bank." "Professor Siegan referred to the mistake of the Federal Reserve Bank inthe late '20s and early '30s. From 1929 to 1933 the quantity of money in the United States went down by a third, and that was a major factor that produced the catastrophe. That was the great mistake of the Federal Reserve. It learned from that mistake. Government agencies, like people, don't always make the same mistake the next time; they make a different one. And since that period, the central banks have tended to make the mistake in the opposite direction. Their mistake has almost always been caused by confusing their function, by thinking that they had something to do with interest rates instead of recognizing that their real function was to control the quantity of money."

5 posted on 09/21/2023 12:27:25 PM PDT by frogjerk (More people have died trusting the government than not trusting the government.)
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To: davikkm

“In a recent development, the 10-Year Note Yield has surged to 4.45%, a level not seen since November 2007.”

So is the sky falling yet? These 10 Year rates are still much lower than every single year of the Reagan administration, the last time that the Fed was fighting an inflation rate similar to today. We managed to survive.

1981 . 13.92%
1982 . 13.01%
1983 . 11.10%
1984 . 12.46%
1985 . 10.62%
1986 . 7.67%
1987 . 8.39%
1988 . 8.85%


6 posted on 09/21/2023 1:05:12 PM PDT by Pelham (President Eisenhower. Operation Wetback 1953-54)
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To: frogjerk

“The Federal Reserve’s recent actions have raised concerns that they may have intentionally engineered the most significant financial crisis in a century.”

“this was predicted by Milton Friedman”

Well you’ve managed to guess wrong on both accounts.

Friedman’s talk that you’ve cited is about what he and Anna Schwartz wrote about in their magnum opus “A Monetary History of the United States”.

In the chapter “The Great Contraction” they criticize the 1930’s Fed for failing to act as lender of last resort, which could have prevented the domino collapse of thousands of American banks and the resulting destruction of 1/3 of the US money supply mentioned in the quote that you cited.

What the Fed is fighting right now is the opposite problem, an overexpansion of the quantity of money. The appropriate Milton Friedman quote is his definition of the cause of inflation:

“It is always and everywhere, a monetary phenomenon. It’s always and everywhere, a result of too much money, of a more rapid increase in the quantity of money than an output.”


7 posted on 09/21/2023 1:22:48 PM PDT by Pelham (President Eisenhower. Operation Wetback 1953-54)
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To: davikkm
They have never seen, let alone deal with, such a massive spree of government money printing and growth in money supply in history. It looks like Mt. Everest grew from a flat plain overnight and it isn't going away. In other times this kind of interest rate hike should have smashed the economy but it has not. The FED really has no ideas what to do now. The FED is floundering. Money supply shrunk just a little bit but it is growing again. We have also never seen Money supply this volatile.

Covid and Biden have created an unprecedented plateau in money suppy and an equally never before seen volatility. We are in new territory and we will not find our way back home for a very very long time. The markets are treading water and there are no life rings being thrown. You can't tread water forever. Neither can you cook the books against recession as has been done by Biden forever or even very long. The money floating around has little value. Even if your portfolio is even with EOY of 2021 you have taken at least a 20% haircut from just inflation.

Bidenomics is just so much horseshit and fairy dust.

8 posted on 09/21/2023 1:29:01 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Procrastination is just a form of defiance)
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To: Pelham

So is the sky falling yet? These 10 Year rates are still much lower than every single year of the Reagan administration, the last time that the Fed was fighting an inflation rate similar to today. We managed to survive.

1981 . 13.92%
1982 . 13.01%
1983 . 11.10%
1984 . 12.46%
1985 . 10.62%
1986 . 7.67%
1987 . 8.39%
1988 . 8.85%

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We’ll survive, but people and businesses hooked on cheap money will have a hard learning curve.
It won’t be easy for them, but it has to happen in my opinion, or our currency will be weakened & eventually destroyed with current monetary practices.

Also, on the high interest rates from 1981-1988. From a demographic perspective.... Boomers were 17-24 years old on the low end & 35-42 years old on the high end.

IMO with their peak earning years still ahead of them, they could absorb the high interest rates & inflation. I’m not sure the younger generation will be able to handle the current accumulated asset inflation.

“Time Will Tell.”


9 posted on 09/21/2023 1:35:28 PM PDT by unclebankster ( Globalism is the last refuge scoundrel)
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To: davikkm

I also noticed a shift in my 401K value also, Bidens economy is not a very good one


10 posted on 09/21/2023 1:49:38 PM PDT by wild74
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To: davikkm

Ya think? 🙄


11 posted on 09/21/2023 1:50:47 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Sequoyah101

I am surprised that posts on Free Republic rarely mention the massive Covid era spending approved during the Trump Administration.
Oh yah! Pelosi controlled the Congress. Faw Chee controlled the mask messaging. But if one were to truly consider the amount of spending that began in March of 2020 ... well that would be a more balanced presentation.
That walking bonehead of a resident from Delaware would have much for which to answer, if he was coherent and responsible.


12 posted on 09/21/2023 1:52:02 PM PDT by Honest Nigerian
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To: davikkm

Dumb, evil, or both.


13 posted on 09/21/2023 1:56:58 PM PDT by lurk (u)
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To: Honest Nigerian
I do not neglect this rampant spending under Trump. It is he and pelousy that instituted what became the covidcation at the newly inflated pay rate of $17.50 per hour. People around here were making more money than they ever had in in their lives and when that ran out, after extensions by Biden, they came back to work demanding more money... compounding the already dangerous situation of too many dollars chasing too few goods. The inflation stuck. No, Trump allowed the problem to be started, he was held hostage for it? It was an election year. He stood no chance if pelousy could make him become the boogy man for holding out on the poor Covid sufferers who had to stay home.

The Covidcation was so bad here that one of the local creek swimming holes had to be closed. There were too many fights and too much trash. Covid was a scam made to destroy Trump and it worked. Stealing the election was just the icing on the cake against his unexpected popularity and successful campaign.

I have a very long memory. The last three or four years have been the greatest cluster fuck of my 70 years and the most change I have ever seen, none of it for the good.

14 posted on 09/21/2023 2:01:07 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Procrastination is just a form of defiance)
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To: Honest Nigerian

BTW, there is no such thing as an honest nigerian. I worked there for three years and I know better.


15 posted on 09/21/2023 2:02:33 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Procrastination is just a form of defiance)
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To: Pelham
So is the sky falling yet?

Too many became too used to cheap money of the last 15 years. The cheap money was really appreciated by the government, considering the massive bailouts from GWB and BO and the trillion-dollar spending from DJT and Bidenomics.

They need to figure out something, because Carter era level interest rates will devastate the economy.

16 posted on 09/21/2023 2:10:43 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: davikkm

Central Banks (another form of central planning) never have the nation’s or the citizens’ best interests at heart. They are just another tool that’s used to transfer wealth from the many to the few. The market is the only mechanism that works for everyone, and the elite hate it for that reason. Think about this: the FED employs 400 or so PhD economists along with hundreds more highly educated individuals, and yet they are always wrong in recognizing the harm they do, late in recognizing it, and then wrong in what they try to do to minimize the damage they have caused. Even in the worst calamities, the elite always seem to wind up with more of the pie. All that inside information sure comes in handy.


17 posted on 09/21/2023 2:10:55 PM PDT by Rlsau1
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To: frogjerk

Yes, and you can go one step beyond Friedman’s observation and realize that all the problems that the Soviets had in trying to predict market demand are also duplicated if a central bank tries to predict how much productivity increase will occur to justify new money printing. There’s no way they can obtain that information in advance reliably.

And if they wait until the year is over to judge productivity and start printing the appropriate amount of money (if needed), then they are behind the curve and always playing catch up. And you can get quite a bit of inflation/deflation in one year while the Fed is waiting to get that information. So what would appear to be the better solution is some type of free market answer to the problem of issuing money, rather than the central government doing it, since the market solves such information problems most efficiently out of all the options we have tried so far.

Of course, that’s assuming the Fed actually understands its job and is trying to fulfill it, neither of which seems to be true.


18 posted on 09/21/2023 2:54:41 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: TomGuy

“Too many became too used to cheap money of the last 15 years”

Historically low interest rates began around 2001, with what was called “the Greenspan Put”. That was probably enabled by a huge accumulation of dollars by China; they were willing to “recycle” them into low yielding American debt.

Americans born in the 1980s and after only experienced a low interest rate world, and they never lived through an inflation like today. You really have to remember the 1970s economy to know what inflation like this was like.

“They need to figure out something, because Carter era level interest rates will devastate the economy.”

The Fed knows what they can do. Fed Chairman Paul Volcker choked off the growth of credit which sent interest rates into double digits. But he also had some help from incoming President Ronald Reagan.

Carter, like the fools running the “Biden” regime, punished energy production. Oil companies, not being fools, responded by not investing in new energy production, which results in higher prices. Higher oil prices ripple all through the economy and make inflation even worse. Unless our next President rewards energy production the inflation fight could drag on for years.


19 posted on 09/21/2023 3:53:54 PM PDT by Pelham (President Eisenhower. Operation Wetback 1953-54)
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To: unclebankster

“Also, on the high interest rates from 1981-1988. From a demographic perspective.... Boomers were 17-24 years old on the low end & 35-42 years old on the high end.”

I was in my 30s with an 8.75 % mortgage that I struggled to cover. The Reagan economy was a godsend after the depressing decade of the ‘70s. And while Carter deserved a lot of blame for 1977 - 1980 the inflation actually began biting hard during Nixon and continued through Ford and into Carter.


20 posted on 09/21/2023 4:05:35 PM PDT by Pelham (President Eisenhower. Operation Wetback 1953-54)
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