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Questions about the upcoming transition
Self | 3/5/2024 | Paul Rivers

Posted on 03/05/2024 11:36:18 AM PST by spacewarp

I wanted to ask questions about scenarios.

I see several scenarios ahead, and none of them look good.

1) Democrats cheat their way to yet another "win" and the corruption is so obvious but again, Republicans and conservatives (not the same) don't do anything again, until they start trying to round people up who have disagreements with the federal government. When that happens, people fight back, but there are now marauding gangs of Chinese, Venezuelan and other country "Government support troops" are around to murder, execute and detain anyone who is not supporting Biden 2.0.

2) Trump wins. Obvious because he's gaining support with women, blacks and even has majority support from Hispanics now. The left, knowing full well the hell they're facing from their constant acts of treason and lies and anti-American hatred decide to act up and go on a wilding attack. They do so with the support of Chinese and Venezuelan and other gangs trying to overthrow the government.

Those two are the safest that I can see.

3) We have an election that's contested and the left fights like hell to keep Trump from taking power, and the right finally wakes up and does something. If they take over, how does America continue? Is it the same America, or is it a new country? If it's a new country, how do we ensure the illegals that came in and invaded don't stay? Do they get shoved out again? Or what? How do our legal visitors and legal residents stay? What does the picture look like for America after all is said and done?

4) Trump wins and we have a revolution from the leftists and the Chinese and Venezuelan and other illegal troops that are here. We have to fight, and America is torn down again. We end up with half the country red, and half blue. There would be two countries and fighting will commence for years if not decades. How do we rip the illegals out of the red country, and how do we stop them when we take back a state or two?

5) Biden, through EO declares ALL illegals are now gifted amnesty and there are no more illegal aliens in America. They are granted immediate citizenship and can vote. The violent outcry from the right will be amazingly loud, and mostly voiced towards Biden and his head. Our country is sent into infighting and abject chaos.


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Any opinions on the options, or any opinions on which looks most likely, or any opinions of your own how things go?

Thank you for participating in my questions.

1 posted on 03/05/2024 11:36:18 AM PST by spacewarp
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To: spacewarp

2 posted on 03/05/2024 11:42:33 AM PST by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: spacewarp
IMHO, scenarios 2 and 4 (involving the Chinese) are not as liable to be where the Chinese operate in militant fashion like you suggest. They seem to operate more by playing the long game of tricking their opponents to destroy themselves from within.

The more militant lawfare operations by the Chinese funded Democrats is a bit of a ruse to keep us from seeing the culture rot. Yes the lawfare is real and our side must win it. I'm just afraid that if we win it we think the battle is over...while the cultural rot we ignored keeps growing.

Sun Tzu: "Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win." And "The greatest victory is that which requires no battle." This is how China tries to win.

3 posted on 03/05/2024 11:42:59 AM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: spacewarp

I will accept whatever they tell me to accept. I am totally on board with my new Deep State overlords.


4 posted on 03/05/2024 11:43:01 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("You'll never hear surf music again" - J. Hendrix)
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To: spacewarp

Trump wins: revolt.
Biden wins: revolt.
No way out of this, gotta get ‘er over with.
Remember, Biden supporters live in cities. Cities with external supplies of food, water, and power. It’ll be an interesting time.


5 posted on 03/05/2024 11:46:42 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: spacewarp

Republicans and conservatives (not the same) don’t do anything again, until they start trying to round people up who have disagreements with the federal government.

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It’s my understanding that they’re already doing that, and so “republicans and conservatives” will do nothing even when people are being rounded up.

I’m not trying to stir the pot, because I’m not sure what ‘doing something’ actually means and I think different people have differing opinions and I don’t want to get lumped in with that. However, what we have seen is that if the establishment can utilize their propaganda front (AKA mainstream media) to set the narrative in advance, citizens in this country can be rounded up all day long and run through the courts (for show) without even pretending to have constitutional rights. The courts are only necessary to create the illusion of legal process, but there really is none.

The leftists are the real radicals. Normal, everday, patriotic americans want to cling desperately to the “American Way”, which is the idea that you are a good person for wanting success at work, at school, raising a family, and paying taxes... and as long as they have the delusion that they can keep doing that, they aren’t going to stick their heads out.


6 posted on 03/05/2024 11:48:20 AM PST by z3n (Kakistocracy)
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To: spacewarp
George Galloway winning his election in the UK is mostly seen as a bad thing on FR. However, his winning by specifically appealing to the Muslim population might finally wake up the Brits who have looked the other way on mass immigration.

The 100,000 who voted uncommitted in Michigan who were mostly motivated by solidarity with Muslims is a wake up call to Dems that they are no longer able to keep their varied interest groups in line.

If we survive the transition, there is hope that a giant light bulb will go off and whoever ends up in the White House will have to take immigration, degeneracy, and criminality seriously.

7 posted on 03/05/2024 11:52:49 AM PST by who_would_fardels_bear (What is left around which to circle the wagons?)
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To: spacewarp

Also consider the condition President Trump left us in 2021.
My prediction: second verse - same as the first.
We might have a couple seemingly okay years but the end of his 2nd term will be an even bigger disaster.


8 posted on 03/05/2024 11:58:16 AM PST by conservativeimage (Divorce the Deep State and Reconstruct Civilian Government: https://tasa.americanstatenationals.org)
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Aside from anything else, it will be quite easy to distinguish those who came illegally. If Trump wins, mass deportations will ensue. If not, things will continue just exactly as they are, or at least the current trajectory will continue. The US will soon bankrupt itself, the dollar will be worth nothing, & each citizen had better be prepared to defend him or herself from criminals.

If Trump wins, but doesn’t get the house & senate, not much will change. What we really need is overwhelming victory of Republicans & conservatives, along with Trump, that would enable the gutting of FedGov.


9 posted on 03/05/2024 11:59:07 AM PST by Twotone (We have to stop punishing ourselves for considering things that once seemed crazy. - B. Weinstein)
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To: spacewarp

What I see:

Trump is the less than even money betting favorite

Dems have twice as many Senate seats to defend

GOP went 27-0 in House toss ups in 2020.

We’re currently watching exodus out of blue state America as if they were at war.

Despite mass collusion by industry, institution and billionaires-Democrats still felt a need to import millions of voters besides acting like desperate tyrannical dictators in every other regard.

Even if #1 happens, it’s not going to happen forever.


10 posted on 03/05/2024 12:05:48 PM PST by Freest Republican (This space for rent)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
The 100,000 who voted uncommitted in Michigan who were mostly motivated by solidarity with Muslims is a wake up call to Dems that they are no longer able to keep their varied interest groups in line.

One of the most insightful and hopeful things I've read in a long while!

11 posted on 03/05/2024 12:09:09 PM PST by scouter (As for me and my household... We will serve the LORD.)
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To: spacewarp

You worry too much. They will not let Trump have a second term.

What you see now will be quadrupled by Fjb’s successor.


12 posted on 03/05/2024 12:15:19 PM PST by Badboo (A fascist is the one who wants to take your guns. That's how it always starts.)
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To: Freest Republican

y population has been reconfigured to remove all troops who have some connection to morality and patriotism. We are seeing the first thrust in to enlist the illegals into the military. The illegals especially the Chinese, have no ties to this nation or its history and will do whatever the woke officer corps demands. For the first time we have a military that is loyal to itself and to the top. The Constitution is barely hanging on and will disappear as a motivation. Praetorian Guard will support the strong man or cabal sometime in the future it becomes aware of its own strength to serve itself.


13 posted on 03/05/2024 12:24:38 PM PST by arthurus ( covfefe Rb)
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To: spacewarp

Donald J Trump is the face of a military intelligence operation to take down the criminal, belligerent force that has hijacked our country.

Watching events unfold over the last three plus years I have realized that this operation is fluid and tends to change its tactics and timetable based on the moves the other side makes. A chess game if you will.

At this point the Deep state is running out of moves. The court cases are disintegrating, the public is losing patience with a senile old man at least pretending to be President. Nobody is in favor of the border nightmare. Nobody loves the state of the economy. Etc etc.

So what does the deep state have left? They can likely pull off a false flag event of some sort perhaps tied to all the military aged males they have let in from other countries. and I expect them to do it. Can they steal the 2024 election? Most likely they can and will if we get to November 5th without an intervention.

So what happens if they do steal the election? What if Trump’s operation wants to let them steal it again? That’s a possibility. Let them steal it and then let the public watch the uniparty Congress vote to certify it again. It would likely set off civil war and the military would have to step in. Trump has said several times that there will not be another stolen election but he never said at what point the steal would be stopped. Trump also said the 2024 election is going to be very different from any previous election.

The other possibility is that the deepstate comes to believe they can’t steal the election so they do something to suspend it. Again false flag springs to mind. How that plays out is anybody’s guess but a good chance the military would have to step in.

At some point the military is the only way. Our system is too corrupted to fix itself. 95% of the House and Senate need to be physically removed from their seats and banned from ever running for office again. The judiciary is a similar problem. It cannot be done through elections.


14 posted on 03/05/2024 12:24:38 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: spacewarp

It’s gonna be harder for them to cheat to win this time around. The deep state is desperate and I wouldn’t put anything pass them. Them announcing today that an Iranian assassin is on the loose gunning for Trump and Pompeo may be an early indication of what they have planned.


15 posted on 03/05/2024 12:27:21 PM PST by jimwatx
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To: Georgia Girl 2

The military cannot be used to “fix” anything political.
...not be either ‘side’, but particularly by the right. It will be immediately and in perpetuity described as a military coup d’etat (installing a ‘dictator’ blah blah yadda yadda), and frankly, it would be hard to argue with that description. If we are really down to the military fixing it, it’s over.


16 posted on 03/05/2024 12:31:51 PM PST by z3n (Kakistocracy)
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To: Psalm 73

Good to hear someone levelheaded. 😁

No one should have doubted the new chip implants in the human brain would be safe and effective. 😮


17 posted on 03/05/2024 12:40:26 PM PST by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls.)
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To: Da Coyote

So prescient:
Don’t Get Fooled Again (excerpts)
by the Who

Then I’ll get on my knees and pray
We don’t get fooled again, no, no

I’ll move myself and my family aside
If we happen to be left half-alive
I’ll get all my papers and smile at the sky
For I know that the hypnotized never lie

There’s nothing in the street
Looks any different to me
And the slogans are effaced, by-the-bye

And the parting on the left
Is now parting on the right

I’ll tip my hat to the new Constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around

Then I’ll get on my knees and pray
We don’t get fooled again
Don’t get fooled again, no, no

Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss


18 posted on 03/05/2024 12:46:39 PM PST by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls.)
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To: spacewarp

I wouldn’t put anything past the libtards who are clearly willing to break laws


19 posted on 03/05/2024 1:15:39 PM PST by NWFree (Sigma male 🤪)
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To: spacewarp

Declaration of Independence and the US constitution pretty much says it all. We all have to figure out when is time to fish or cut bait.


20 posted on 03/05/2024 1:44:31 PM PST by exnavy
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