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The number of Communists killed before overthrowing old non-communist Government Vs the number of Communists killed after Communist came into power?
Myself ^ | 4/27/24 | Self

Posted on 04/27/2024 10:19:01 AM PDT by Lockbox

American historian William D. Rubinstein concluded that, even under most conservative estimates, Stalin was responsible for the deaths of at least 7 million people, or about 4.2% of USSRs total population.

Mao Zedong from 1958 to 1962, his Great Leap Forward policy led to the deaths of up to 45 million people – easily making it the biggest episode of mass murder ever recorded.

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TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: communists; vanity
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I love the Useful Idoits who either do not know history (thanks expensive, pretentious universities) or think they will be the ones' to survive.....
1 posted on 04/27/2024 10:19:01 AM PDT by Lockbox
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To: Lockbox

That think they will survive thing show most of them to be incredibly ignorant.


2 posted on 04/27/2024 10:27:16 AM PDT by exnavy
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To: Lockbox

Out of power, Communism is gangsters, dreamers, and psychopaths shouting slogans and making utopian promises. When communists get into power in a country, they ruthlessly kill off factional rivals and potential sources of recruits for a counter-revolution. Then they rob and exploit the wealth of the country.


3 posted on 04/27/2024 10:28:30 AM PDT by Rockingham (`)
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To: Lockbox

I think this time is different—not better, mind you, probaby much worse, but different.

If America goes fullbore Maoist or Stalinist, one of two things will happen.

The first is that the lid that has kept nuclear war from occurring will be blown off, and the government won’t have to kill off massive portions of the population, because our enemies will do it for us, and we’ll do it for them.

The second is that it will be the catalyst for a unified world government proclaiming peace through massive government control everywhere. That of course will be the opening to the Tribulation—and since the end of the world as we know it is the reign of Christ, I feel fine.

It also may be that the first will take place and then the second.


4 posted on 04/27/2024 10:33:12 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: Lockbox

Stalin likely did not realize that collective farms would fail and cause millions to starve. It is still his fault but it was not as overt as Auschwitz. Similarly the “Great Leap Forward” caused mass starvation but it is a stretch to think that Mao intended this. Remember that Biden blamed Trump for Covid deaths.
Deaths in the Gulags and at the hands of Pol Pot were more likely to have been intended. And you can argue that Stalin hated the “Kulaks” because they supported themselves and so didn’t fit into the Proletariat/Bourgeoisie struggle narrative.


5 posted on 04/27/2024 10:33:14 AM PDT by brookwood (Anti-semitism is a predictable result of efforts to create "diversity, equity, and inclusion".)
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To: Lockbox

Estimates vary, but a genuine eye opener is various totalitarian governments mentioned in the 20th century murdered or responsible for somewhere around 100 to 200 Million people.

Get this though. That isn’t counting any of the wars! All that pie in the sky shit just leads to a pile of skulls. Everytime. It’s always the same in every country, the same playbook, the same routine. Demonize a specific segment of the population. Can be based on religious, ethnic, or tribal affiliations.

Gin up hatred in media, academia, and government.

Sound familiar? It should.


6 posted on 04/27/2024 10:33:22 AM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: brookwood

If only Stalin knew!

One of the things that (used to) confuse and astound people in the West, true believers insist reality is collective.

So in the case of the French Revolution, one of the things they did was set about price controls on Bread.

So bakeries were forced by law to sell every loaf of bread for less than the cost of the ingredients used to make it. You’ll never guess what happens next!

This same kind of mentality persists in collectivist soviet or marxist theory. “Our plan would have worked, if it weren’t for those meddling kids!”. They really believe, if everyone “believes”, then everything will be Utopia.

It is only because of “wreckers and hoarders” and people who don’t sufficiently Believe, that these nonsense crackpot schemes don’t work. YOU need to get your mind right, Comrade!


7 posted on 04/27/2024 10:39:56 AM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: Lockbox

Hi.

My D. I. constantly said, “kill a commie for mommie.”

5.56mm


8 posted on 04/27/2024 10:40:04 AM PDT by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho have got to go. )
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To: chajin

One thing I never get is how bad it was for those millions of people who died. Jesus did not come to save them. What makes you think this will be different? Because maybe hundreds of millions if not billions of people will be slaughtered? How many years of suffering will we have to endure before Jesus returns? Just curious.


9 posted on 04/27/2024 10:42:53 AM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (#PureBlood )
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To: Freedom4US
"20th century murdered or responsible for somewhere around 100 to 200 Million people."

I think I saw this somewhere...


10 posted on 04/27/2024 10:43:51 AM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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To: Lockbox

The 45 million estimate for Mao is dwarfed by the Islamic invasion of India which reduced their population from 600 to 200 million over eight centuries, and is considered the greatest genocide in history.


11 posted on 04/27/2024 10:47:28 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: US_MilitaryRules

Well, Revelation says 1/3 of the people must die, so as horrible as what the Nazis, Soviets, Japanese, Maoists, and other mass-murdering governments have done, it doesn’t rise to the level of the multibillion carnage—that can only come from worldwide atomic warfare, or some later unimaginable technology.


12 posted on 04/27/2024 10:50:32 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: Lockbox

We are experiencing America’s Cultural Revolution (ala Mao).


13 posted on 04/27/2024 10:53:18 AM PDT by llevrok (“In a time of deceit telling, the truth is a revolutionary act.” ― George Orwell)
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14 posted on 04/27/2024 10:58:26 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: SpaceBar

+1

Muslims slaughtered maybe hundreds of millions of Skkhs and Hindus.

Anyone who thinks they won’t do the same to the Americas is mentally deficient.


15 posted on 04/27/2024 10:59:47 AM PDT by jjotto ( Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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To: jjotto

Not to mention what the Turks did to the Armenians. That’s what actually gave Hitler the inspiration for “The Final Solution”.


16 posted on 04/27/2024 11:01:20 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: US_MilitaryRules
One thing I never get is how bad it was for those millions of people who died. Jesus did not come to save them.

Yes he did, over two thousand years ago he died to save them not in this life (which is short and temporary) but in the hereafter which is eternal.

17 posted on 04/27/2024 11:02:35 AM PDT by usurper (AI was born with a birth defect.)
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To: Lockbox

The implementation of communism is done by people who want to live in the palace and ride in the government limousines.

The preachers of communism are lazy professors who want the coeds to think they are mysterious.


18 posted on 04/27/2024 11:09:15 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer” )
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To: usurper

Christ didn’t come to save people from their troubles 2000 year ago He came to save all of us from Sin. When He comes again it won’t be to save people from their troubles, their pain or sufferings but from the Anti-Christ.


19 posted on 04/27/2024 11:14:30 AM PDT by JAKraig (my religion is at least as good as yours.)
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To: Rockingham

Augusto Pinochet had the right approach to dealing with Marxists.


20 posted on 04/27/2024 11:45:24 AM PDT by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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