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It's 5150 Time!!!! Sammy Hagar Re-Joins Van Halen
Melodicrock.com ^ | 11-20-03 | my favorite headache

Posted on 11/19/2003 11:14:22 PM PST by My Favorite Headache

Thursday, November 20, 2003

VAN HALEN WILL RETURN IN 2004 - AT LONG LAST!: Van Halen is on the verge of a long awaited comeback. Long tortured fans are about to be put out of their misery, as the band looks ready to fire in 2004. Details are still sketchy as plans are still in the very early stages of development and are therefore continuing to change as issues are sorted through.

Sammy Hagar is set to return to his role as Van Halen's lead vocalist. Original frontman David Lee Roth is not associated with this re-union.

Here's what's been happening, pieced together from a couple of my well known and reliable sources.

It's not clear who initiated first contact. I was told that Eddie & Alex Van Halen called Sammy Hagar, while it was also suggested to me that it was Sammy that called the brothers out of the blue. Either way, contact was established and an attempt to bury the hatchet was made. Sammy Hagar then made a trip to Eddie's house and the 5150 studio. The idea was to see if Sammy, Ed and Alex could in fact put the events of the last 7 years behind them and work together again. It was also a chance for Sammy to hear the material that has so far been written and recorded by Eddie and Alex. I'm told there have since been a few more meetings – which were apparently both good and bad, but issues are being dealt with and a future discussed. Hagar has apparently already told members of his solo band of his plans to re-join Van Halen. Hagar's legal team is already in discussion with Van Halen's legal team.

I was told that bass player Michael Anthony was not present at the first meeting and I am not yet aware of him meeting again with Ed and Alex, who he hasn't talked to for a couple of years now. But I was told that Sammy has insisted that Michael is part of the re-union line-up.

There is no timetable in place as yet for this re-union. As I said, this is still in the very early stages of being developed. A few ideas are still being considered – such as playing a few shows to get things started before recording/finishing a brand new studio album. What is almost definite though are plans for a new studio album – hoped to be ready for mid-2004, but possibly not until late 2004 - followed by a tour.

News leaked overnight of the band's intention to sign a new management deal with Irving Azoff Management. Azoff's office has made the official "no comment" on the matter, but expect this high profile management company to confirm their equally high profile signing soon. Irving Azoff is a well known and powerful manager, who currently has The Eagles, Christina Aguilera, Seal, Jewel and of course Journey on his roster. Azoff has also been Sammy Hagar's solo manager for the last couple of years.

As far as record labels go, Warner Brothers still has a relationship with the band, given that every album they have released has been with the label. I'm told that they will certainly be the first in line to sign the band should everything work out as planned. Irving Azoff also has a strong relationship with the label. Sanctuary Records is being talked about as a possible home for the band, but don't expect that to happen. Hagar had a solo deal with that label, but only for the Greatest Hits Live release and a yet to eventuate re-issue of his solo albums Ten 13 and Not For Sale, which should still happen when the current deal with the two issuing labels for those albums finish.

Not so good news for fans of the Diamond one. David Lee Roth is apparently out of the picture. It seems another attempt to work with him was made after the denied at the time get together in 2000. Once again it didn't work out and the Van Halen brothers have seemingly ruled out any future attempt to work with him. This is the first contact the brothers have had with Hagar since he departed the band in a storm of ill-feeling in 1996.

Planet Us, the all-star project featuring Sammy Hagar, Michael Anthony, Neal Schon, Deen Castronovo and Joe Satriani is all but over – and has been for some time. The project has been left in the hands of guitarist Schon and drummer Castronovo. One rumor is that Neal Schon is still interested in such an album and has another singer in mind. The guys only recorded two tracks together – Vertigo and Peeping Through A Hole – neither of which has been released officially.

There is still more to come. I had planned to gather more information over the course of this week and the weekend, but the leaked news of the Azoff management deal by the music industry website Hits Daily Double has moved the timetable forward. A new Greatest Hits album was one of the rumors leaked in association with the management news. But, to date I have heard no mention of such a plan, unless the band wants to get something into the public's hands while they work on a new studio record. I personally do not see such a thing happening. Could it be time for the Van Hagar CD re-masters to be re-issued?

This is a slowly developing situation and of course, nothing has been announced officially. When this will happen is another major question. The answer is one I hope to bring to you in due course, along with further developments and details of any firm plans that have been put in place. It's nice to be able to bring such positive news to long suffering Van Halen fans. It's news I have the utmost confidence in.


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To: Khurkris
What is the inspiration for Terminus Eldorado? Anyone know? Is Ted a Freeper?
41 posted on 11/20/2003 1:00:14 AM PST by sully777 (Bye bye baby!)
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To: dennisw
Yeah,I posted that article on FR too the cancer one. He is on Steve Luthaker's new Christmas cd playing on 3 tracks...it is decent. Van Halen is what this country needs right now...and desperately.
42 posted on 11/20/2003 1:00:55 AM PST by My Favorite Headache (I Want A Girlfriend)
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To: martin_fierro
LOL..I saw the Sam and Dave tour 2 yrs ago...Dave is sooooo over. Sammy rocked the house with Michael Anthony on bass.
43 posted on 11/20/2003 1:01:49 AM PST by My Favorite Headache (I Want A Girlfriend)
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To: Timesink
Hey between this and the 30th Anniversary Rush tour starting in April...im gonna be broke. Oh yeah and the new Dream Theater.
44 posted on 11/20/2003 1:03:00 AM PST by My Favorite Headache (I Want A Girlfriend)
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To: L.N. Smithee
Isn't it "For UNLAWFUL Carnal Knowledge" ?

I choose Eat Em and Smile. IMO Tobacco Road was masterful. Honestly, VH songs historically have been knock-offs. Some of their best stuff is old R&B material. True, Hagar brought his song writing abilities to Van Hagar but what can you say about a song dedicated to aliens? And speaking of Hagar taking a musical que from others, will someone tell me why Hagar hasn't been sued by Gary Glitter's people for stealing Rock And Roll for Hagar's Mash Tequila? Same music!
45 posted on 11/20/2003 1:11:53 AM PST by sully777 (ad absurdum)
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To: meanie monster
There is no Van Halen without David Lee Roth.

Precisely. Now it's just the cheap knockoff, Van Hagar.

46 posted on 11/20/2003 1:12:04 AM PST by Prime Choice (Conservative: One who doesn't believe that turning the U.S. into a third-world nation is 'progress'.)
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To: LisaMalia
I'm just listening to "Dark Side of the Moon" ...what do I know?

And on a related note, Pink Floyd stopped being Pink Floyd when Roger Waters left. After that, it was just Pink Gilmour with a Buttload of Studio Musicians.

47 posted on 11/20/2003 1:14:20 AM PST by Prime Choice (Conservative: One who doesn't believe that turning the U.S. into a third-world nation is 'progress'.)
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To: My Favorite Headache
Diamond Dave is missing some hairs on his head but is in great shape for his age. Martial arts etc.

He's Jewish/ born in Roxbury Massachussets.
48 posted on 11/20/2003 1:25:34 AM PST by dennisw (G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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To: My Favorite Headache
Dave is the only real deal w/VanH though I like and respect SammyH and his fighting spirit.
49 posted on 11/20/2003 1:27:24 AM PST by dennisw (G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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To: sully777
Van Hagar was sluggo, dreadfully dull, Mud Rock.

Texas Stadium, 1979-80: Van Halen II. Dave was the star of the show. All over the place, told jokes (that were actually funny), rebel yells, drank booze from the bottle. Wore those red and white striped pants. THAT was a show.

Oh, yeah, and the band backed him up, too.

When Dave left, he took the cajones with him.

50 posted on 11/20/2003 4:07:21 AM PST by Churchjack
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To: My Favorite Headache
Van Halen's video "Dreams", featuring the Blue Angels, is the best video of all time.
51 posted on 11/20/2003 4:17:57 AM PST by TomB
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To: My Favorite Headache
Hey between this and the 30th Anniversary Rush tour starting in April

HUH??? Could you please elaborate on this? Rush is the greatest band of all time...JFK

52 posted on 11/20/2003 4:19:43 AM PST by BADROTOFINGER (Life sucks. Get a helmet.)
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To: Prime Choice
--And on a related note, Pink Floyd stopped being Pink Floyd when Roger Waters left. After that, it was just Pink Gilmour with a Buttload of Studio Musicians.--

I think they stopped being Pink Floyd when they came out with that dreadful Final Cut. The only good thing to come off of that album was Gilmour singing Not Now John. The new Floyd is what you describe but The Division Bell is awesome IMHO.
Van Halen without Roth just isn't right but methinks Dave has gone a little off the deep end. I would rather have fond memories of the good ole days (as a previous poster said, Fair Warning is as good as it gets) than see geezers trying to recapture their youth and our bucks.
53 posted on 11/20/2003 4:43:03 AM PST by pdunkin
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To: Prime Choice
Pink Floyd stopped being Pink Floyd when Roger Waters left.

I agree completely. It ain't Floyd without Roger.

After that, it was just Pink Gilmour with a Buttload of Studio Musicians.

Actually, it was Gilmour, Wright and Mason with a bunch of studio musicians. Not bad, but not Floyd.

I told a friend who was excited about their late 1980s tour, "Sorry, but it isn't Pink Floyd. It should be called the 'Three Guys Who Used to be in Pink Floyd' Tour, but please don't think this is Pink Floyd." Of course, they were still better than 99.9999% of the acts out there. And Gilmour's playing during that time was incredible.

54 posted on 11/20/2003 5:00:52 AM PST by Skooz (We keep you alive to serve this ship. Row well, and live.)
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To: My Favorite Headache
WWMD?

What would Motorhead do?
55 posted on 11/20/2003 5:02:37 AM PST by GodBlessRonaldReagan (where is Count Petofi when we need him most?)
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To: pdunkin
"The Final Cut" had it's moments. "The Gunner's Dream" is quite good. But it isn't really a Pink Floyd album. It is a Roger Waters album. Rick Wright wasn't in the band at that time, and Gilmour only played a few tracks. Even Nick Mason was pushed aside for most of the album because Waters found a studio drummer he liked better.

Gilmour has even said that it got to the point that he told Waters, "If you need a guitar part, let me know," and left the studio for weeks at a time. Floyd was long over by then.

The last true Pink Floyd album was "Animals."
56 posted on 11/20/2003 5:06:05 AM PST by Skooz (We keep you alive to serve this ship. Row well, and live.)
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To: dennisw
Saw Van Halen at teh Rapid City Civic Center when I wat stationed at Ellsworth AFB back in the early 80's. Band pretty much blew a hole in the roof it was so powerful.

I like Sammy Hagar. But I do not associate him with VH even though he spent some time there. DLR is the front man. Sammy should stick to the Jimmy Buffet lifestyle, make a few more appearances on Emeril Live and ramp up the octane on that Cabo Wabo tokillya.
58 posted on 11/20/2003 5:20:27 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz
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To: BADROTOFINGER
Hey between this and the 30th Anniversary Rush tour starting in Aprl

HUH??? Could you please elaborate on this? Rush is the greatest band of all time...JFK

My "Live in Rio" DVD just arrived yesterday... I'll be sitting down to watch it this weekend (along with my Ext Ed Two Towers DVD... No other plans, other than the Chiefs/Raiders game... That should take up the entire weekend!)

Mark

59 posted on 11/20/2003 5:21:16 AM PST by MarkL (Chiefs 9-1... #$&!@(*#$$%^&@@#!!!!!!)
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To: Skooz
Pink Floyd stopped being Pink Floyd when Roger Waters left.

I agree completely. It ain't Floyd without Roger.

After that, it was just Pink Gilmour with a Buttload of Studio Musicians.

Actually, it was Gilmour, Wright and Mason with a bunch of studio musicians. Not bad, but not Floyd.

Well, maybe... Waters had the vision, Gilmour has the talent. I'm not saying that RW isn't talented, but he's simply not in the same league as DG. Rick Wright and Nick Mason are both terribly underated for both their contributions to Pink Floyd, and as musicians in general.

I think that The Wall concert was more than a little insulting to them, in the way that they were "replaced" (the whole band, actually... I think that Waters was saying to the audience, "you don't really know us, so here are some "imitations") on stage.

Waters has an ego the size of the wall they built on that tour. Gilmour has far less ego, but far more talent to back it up.

Mark

60 posted on 11/20/2003 5:26:07 AM PST by MarkL (Chiefs 9-1... #$&!@(*#$$%^&@@#!!!!!!)
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