Skip to comments.OCTOBER DREAM [TERROR ATTACKS WORLDWIDE HAVE U HAD SUCH A DREAM OR VISION?]
Posted on 10/02/2004 3:48:27 PM PDT by Quix
QX NOTE: Since mentioning the below in a very sparse thread, a well known FREEPER has reported a similar dream. Another FREEPER, who probably knows more than many of the rest of us put togehter, said it was . . . my words . . . compatible with other . . . data.
If you FREEPMAIL them, please let me know if I can post them anonymously on this thread. Blessings, QX
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October 2, 2004
Meri Burlingame: Moderator
Even as many had dreams indicating in July and August that September would be a month of storms, others have had dreams saying that October would be a month of terrorism. May we be found standing in the breach as the Lord would direct us.
[QX NOTE: Meri is a long term, close friend and Sister in The Lord].
September 4. 2004 5:03am.........had this dream three times...
I am standing outside, and approximately about 20 feet away from me, I see what looks like a big globe of the world.
As I begin to walk towards it, I am then lifted up far above this globe, and can now look down , and see the whole universe.
As I look far over towards the left, I see a darkening in the sky. In a blink of an eye, it strikes me that it has the resemblance of New York the stock exchange buildings and business area. I then become aware, that as this situation is occurring, that in other parts of the world, there seem to be simultaneous attacks.
Although, I am not certain, of the exact places these attacks are also occurring, I do notice, that oil refineries, are being blown up, and I notice there seems to be those of Arabic descent as well as what appears to be Iraq, is now once again, under heavy attack, with air attacks, and ground forces, attacking just as they did in the beginning of the war many lives are lost.
As this takes place, I look to my right, and see more destruction, and terror and death.
As I awoke, I was in tears, and kept hearing "Oct will be a significant month, Winds Of Change Watch and Pray"
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May we all be diligent about our prayers--particularly for our country, our President and against terror this month.
Freepmail. u r not alone
PING to all!
I have not had any such dreams lately. But I have a strong conviction that without some kind of divine intervention - could be in the form of anything strong, whether divinely generated to our eyes or not - the world will be in hell.
The Islamic terrorists, militant atheists and hedonists, communist/socialists which includes the thug Democrats, homosexual jihadis - all want control, dominance, and destruction.
I don't like violence and disruption any more than the next guy; but something has to give. I look at this way - if you're on the street and someone wants to keep fighting with you, you're going to wind up fighting the guy, or letting him beat you up, or just having to run and hide all the time. Which is the better choice?
Obviously winning the fight.
Amen, Quix. This is an important thread, no matter what your individual beliefs are. All freepers should act to protect this thread from trolls, especially. I too, believe this month is going to be a pivotal one in the history and future course of our nation. There is certainly a convergence of prophetic, political and terrorist activity and we seem to be on a collision course with destiny. So it is written, so it shall be done.
Do you remember the swarm of sharks off the Florida coast prior to 9-11 and the last election? Now there is a great white cruising the waters of Mass.Signs and wonders.
THANKS both of you.
BTW, please alert/ping those you know on other threads who'd probably be interested. I had to put this in chat because of the topic.
Very sobering rub. Thanks. Have felt that way sooooo long. And even more so now.
Now--how to alert Dad who's quite immune to such alerts at this point! And, praying I can still get back to Taipei for fall classes 2005. God knows. All things are possible to HIM. I certainly feel life as we have known it will be gone. Bicycles may be the only transportation a lot quicker than I thought.
BLESSINGS, SAFETY, LUB
Predicting that "September will be a month of storms" is like predicting that "January will be a month of snow". The peak of Hurricane Season is late August through September.
Predicting "an increase in terror" prior to the U.S. Presidential election is likewise a common sense matter.
Dreams are a window to your state of mind. The more that people talk about the obvious fact that terrorists will go into their "late in the fourth quarter offense", the more they will worry about it. The more they worry about it, the more they will dream about it.
The terrorists want us to worry about it, dream about it and talk about it. The terrorists also want us to get others to talk about it, worry about it and dream about it.
I don't dream about it.
When I'm awake, I try to firm up the resolve of the American Home Front so that, as in World War II, the enemy is soundly defeated.
Then you no longer have to worry or dream about it.
It is important to note that Alqaida members believe they communicate with each other through dreams and that what they dream in unison is the future. It is a very major part of their belief system and has nothing to do with their avowed public belief system. They are wrong in this belief in the efficacy of dreams. Dreams are null and void as they deny the subjective and objectified moral will.
Dear Quix- I reported the one that I had about being on the bridge when the stars started to fall and turned into missile strikes. I have not had a similar dream since, but I feel very strongly that we are facing something between October 6 and October 12th...
Then you must have had a very poor dream life.
Amen to all you said.
My spirit seems extra on alert, too.
Blessings and safety to you and yours!
I don't know what you mean about dreams being null and void.
Some dreams are nothing more than mental sorting, processing at night evidently.
Some are messages from satan.
Some are messages from God.
It helps to be able to discern the difference.
BELIEVERS are to avoid the sin of worry regardless of whether they are in the line and they are next on the guillotine or otherwise.
Sometimes, dreams are given of God for warning so prep of heart and substance can be made in a timely fashion.
We have a lot of ideas about what is going on with dreams, some ideas from quantum mechanics and others from metaphysics. Most of us do not have enough control over our dreams to say much about them. Those who do have control over their dreams wouldn't be saying much. It can get into whether someone believes the mind is simply something the brain does--most people, especially scientists--or whether mind is present everywhere. It's fascinating to speculate, but to pay attention to someone's dream just because it was memorable is not something we need to do. If Alqaida wants to do battle in the realm of dreams, they are more than welcome to give it a try, but there is no sign they are especially adept at it.
Sounds like you have a variety of alternate realities available for your backyard walks.
I'm skeptical that we are likely to walk the same paths. But it sounds like an interesting perspective.
I used to have horrible nightmares all the time, but then I learned how to do lucid dreaming whenever, and now I just enjoy the show. If Hillary shows up in a dream, I just laugh and ignore. If a building collapses in a dream, I just put it back together. Really, dreams are no big deal, not messages.
Certainly one can influence one's own dreams--especially with practice.
However, a long list of people historic and present are living testimonies that SOME dreams are indeed messages from God.
Joseph in the Old Testament comes to mind along with Daniel.
Yeah, the thing is that Alqaida is relying on dreams for communication, which is kind of weird when prophets do this and supposedly the last prophet died over 1000 years ago and there will never be another according to them. Somebody should call them on that.
Perhaps your sources are flawed.
Scripture indicates that prophets true and false will be around when Jesus returns.
Ahhhhh, Good distinction.
Okay, I teach high school psychology. Dr. Francis Crick, winner of the Nobel Prize and the co-discoverer of DNA theorizes that dreams serve as a helpful mechanism to clean up the clutter of unneeded memories, a housecleaning function, if you will. Now, when Freud wrote his treatise on dreams in 1900, he theorized a manifest content that comes from the day's experiences and a latent content that comes from the person's unconscious wishes. Freud was particularly interested in in wishes concerning childhood psychosexual conflicts. Very few folks today use Freud's system of dream interpretation, but it opened the door to the scientific study of dreams.
On average, a person spends 75% of his time in stages I-IV with stage IV being the deepest sleep of all, it is often very difficult to waken a person in this stage. At this point your mind begins to emit Delta Waves and your eyes begin a rapid sideways movement called REM sleep also called "active sleep." Stages I-IV are NREM or quiet sleep for the lack of eye movement. REM sleep lasts only 10 min or so. Stages I-IV will continually cycle through at 90 min intervals. Each cycle the deepest sleep (IV) decreases and REM sleep increases and this continues until you wake up.
You dream throughout all the stages, but evidence shows the dreams in REM sleep and particularly in the last vestiges of REM before you wake are the most vivid and often disturbing. Some dreams are benign, but a large percentage feature negative emotions: anger, anxiety, sadness. Contrary to popular belief, dreams do not take place in a split second. They correspond on a realistic time scale. The brain is never inactive.
Quix is requesting that folks relate what he refers to as visions that people experience in which a precognitive element seems present. This is covered in parapsychology and is not a field with which I'm deeply familiar.
I have not had that dream, but it's not an unreasonable thought in this world, today.
You have my prayers for sweet dreams.
I sent it out to my email list which has a number of spiritually sensitive folks devoted to our Lord Jesus, The Father and Spirit.
A number have already returned confirmations of the same sense, feelings as described in and from the dreams.
God's best to you, too.
Actually, I'm talking about Holy Spirit breathed Biblical sorts of dreams and/or waking 'visions' which are instructive from The Lord for some reason--and in this case, predictive regarding terror attacks etc. in the month of Oct.
There are counterfeits of all kinds of things from the evil one. I'm not talking about any of such 'new age' or other similar counterfeits. I consider the counterfeits to be part of parapsychology. I don't consider Biblical, authentic Holy Spirit experiences to be from the field of parapsychology though I recognize that secular persons would not make such a distinction.
I also recognize that most dreams seem to arise out of some kind of mental processing of the day's activities and thoughts and as such can easily reflect anxieties, concerns, events real and fiction from TV, thoughts or whatever.
I'm struck in the case of the dream at the beginning of this thread by at least a couple of things.
1) It was sent via a close friend who tends to be above average in her Spirit led discernment. She considers the source to be way above average in her reliability.
2) When I sent it to my personal network of those who I perceive to walk closest to God amongst those I know, Each of the most prayerful and 'in tune' folks came back with a statement--a firm statement--that it bore significant witness with what they've been feeling for some time.
3) My own impressions have grown in the same direction the closer we've gotten to the election. The feeling of something 'looming,' 'impending' has deepened and intensified more than at other times. Oddly, I've also felt closer to God and less anxious personally.
4) This is amidst a call by the very well respected Frances Frangipane for 40 days of prayer and fasting up to the election.
5) The election process has gotten more and more bizarre. The lies from SKERRY's side have gotten more and more brazen. Lehrer's part in the debates was brazenly evil with a smile.
6) I keep feeling we may well have martial law by the election or shortly thereafter.
7) The feelings of some that our way of life as we have known it being over soon--may well be conservative.
8) Part of me has had various levels of such feelings off and on for most of 30 years. So, part of me is still skeptical. It seems lesser and lesser parts of me remain skeptical. Regardless, THE NATION AND THE WORLD HAVE MOVED WHOLESALE ENORMOUSLY CLOSER to such things. And dramatically so in the last few years at an increasing pace and at an increasing level of disorder and trauma.
9) Part of me thinks that SHRILLERY'S comment about an OCTOBER SURPRISE may have come from inside knowledge from the puppet masters of plans already in place.
10) Look up; pray; walk with God; our Redemption is increasingly at hand in dramatically overt respects.
inho, of course.
Hey Dr. Do you plan on posting -- anonymously -- what some others are FreepMailing you, with their consent of course?
Yes. I have a few I hope to get up tomorrow.
Yes, with consent, anonymously.
Am I missing something in your question?
Quix, I'm a follower of the Lord first. You know that. Brother, I happen to agree with you. I was trying to show our friend rightwhale that dreams have a scientific basis and a cycle. They mean something. They have a purpose and they are affected by a variety of factors. I misspoke when I said you were referring to parapsychology. That's not of the Lord. I have never had a "vision," either waking or dreaming. I MAY have seen an Angel once or twice for a split second and during a close call. I have no doubt they exist and they're not a part of parapsychology, either. But based on those experiences, I'm not about to say that the King of Kings isn't showing certain chosen folks what's up!
My daughter has all the 'weird dreams' in this family - nothing new to report.
And I experienced a very grim vision of people who are headed for hell, where the Holy Spirit impressed upon my heart the need to pray for people so they would repent of evil-doing and come to the Lord.
Take it for what you will. I never have visions like that, but when this one came upon me, it came all of a sudden and it was very dark and grim -- I knew instantly, knowing in my spirit, knowing without having to hear the words -- that I was to pray for people so that they would repent of actions that grieve the Lord and come to Him in repentance, that God doesn't want anyone to perish in Hell, and it was impressed upon my heart to pray over this matter.
Don't mean to sound like I'm on a soapbox. This happened to me, and I'm passing it on. I don't want to offend anyone or twist their arms if they don't want to hear about religion. But his happened to me, and here it is.
Quix, can you add me to your ping list. I don't have prophet dreams, but I do believe in it. As you said, scripture says the old will have dreams and the young will have visions etc.
Ditto to diamond6. Add me too.
Guess I'll have to make such a ping list!
Will try to get to it tomorrow afternoon.
Heading to bed.
I keep having the same dreams, but they are not fit for a family forum like FR. ;-)
Not only that, it's relatively easy to influence OTHER people's dreams.
I was just alerted to this thread.
I had basically the same dream in September.
I was in the city, I was slightly NW of Times Square, walking ona side street, I felt a sudden whoosh of air and debris come up behind me, then i fell forward, at the same time everything felt electrified, the air smelled metallic, my eyes were burning and my hair smelled funny.
Felt this enormous dread and felt very overheated inside.
I got up and started running towards the NY waterway ferry even though I knew it was a good 15 blocks away.
I looked at people around me and some were running, some looked to be in pain/shock, while some looked totally unaffected.
In my brain I kept seeing numbers running thru my head, I told myself it was October and was tryingto remember if it was the 19th 20th or 21st.
Sorry, but I don't think your dream sounds like justa n average dream.
There are some features, nuances which just seem toooo specific, tooooo 'alerting;' toooooo 'knowing.'
Not sure how to put it.
But I suspect you have had some warning dreams in your life before which have proven out. True?
If so, I suspect you have learned somewhat how to discrimminate between normal dreams and solid alerts.
True. Depends on a lot of factors.
And, that does not necessarily negate a warning dream from God, in the least.
In my experience, observations, there's distinct differences however subtle. The whole dream from The Lord has a whole different character and feel to it as well as differences in the presentation of specifics. imho.
Please FREEPMAIL them to me.
I'd still like them for my archive.
Also, perhaps they could be paraphrased for the forum.
BTW, have had that sort of experience about that issue a number of times.
Is probably one reason I have such a press in my spirit to get back to Taiwan as soon as God allows and supports it.
Prayers for your efforts in your network, spheres.
BTW, I prayerfully FORGIVE PEOPLE The Lord alerts me to do that in prayer for--whether I know them or just see them on the street. We don't know what that Scripture about whatsoever we forgive is forgiven--we don't know the reach of that Scripture. But we do know that prayerfully doing Biblical things has powerful results. So, I do so and trust the results to God.
Sometimes, if I'm uncertain about a group of people I'm praying that way for, I'll add the caveat--according to your will, Oh, Lord.
You might ask her if there's been anything she's been afraid to report.
Assuming that by wierd dreams you mean some that have been genuinely alerting and predictive.
No sweat. I assumed as much about you and about you and I. I just wanted to note some things for other readers as a springboard off your post.
I know just the freeper to call in case of a troll invasion of this thread :o)