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National Treasure it is NOT!

Posted on 11/29/2004 12:37:12 PM PST by BereanBrain

I believe National Treasure implies that Freemasons are a POSITVE influence on our country.

Anybody that knows the TRUTH about Freemasonry rather than the propaganda they wrap themselves in will NOT be takin in by the positive portrayal in this movie.

Please America, wake up, don't buy into the guys who brought "Seperation of Church/State" to America, model ISLAM as the highest truth (the Shriners), label the Holy Bible as "Furinture" in a lodge, and outlaw the name of "Jesus" in any lodge.

I know I will get flamed by 10,000 Masons and Mason supporters on this, but if you want to know the TRUTH read what was the only book given to EVERY mason until just recently - MORALS AND DOGMA by Albert Pike. it is 800 pages, but the truth about masonry can be found from their own lips.

BTW, Albert Pike is the BIG man in Masonry in the US - and he just also happened to found the KKK. Again, using religion to achieve his social purposes.


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To: BereanBrain

Because according to the source identified in the post he was not a Mason.


201 posted on 11/29/2004 1:32:07 PM PST by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules)
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To: RKV

time to fess up...Are YOU a Mason?


202 posted on 11/29/2004 1:32:51 PM PST by BereanBrain
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To: JesseHousman

"Discrimination by Freemasons is required. No one can be a Freemason who is not a person of status, does not have quality of looks, is a negro, is not physically sound, is not above average in intelligence, or is not of financial worth. Higher levels of Freemasonry require one to be of greater wealth and have a home of substantial value. Being willing to entertain has added value in this hedonistic society with a focus upon sex worship at its highest levels."

I know several black masons.


203 posted on 11/29/2004 1:33:00 PM PST by oldleft
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To: AxelPaulsenJr

You're thinking of Alberta Pike, the notorious madam who ran a bawdy house in Denver. She later repented, began baking cookies and the rest is history.


204 posted on 11/29/2004 1:34:07 PM PST by JesseHousman
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To: wvobiwan

Your Tolkien lore still dazzles me!


205 posted on 11/29/2004 1:34:11 PM PST by ariamne (reformed liberal)
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To: BereanBrain

Nope. I am not a Mason. You can believe me or not. The fact is I am not a Mason, nor have I ever been. I just think that the facts should speak for themselves.


206 posted on 11/29/2004 1:34:24 PM PST by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules)
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To: mdittmar

Probably... I just wonder why my parents never mentioned any of the Sex Orgies and Satan Worshipping that go on...

(J/k)


207 posted on 11/29/2004 1:34:54 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (01010010 01001111 01010100 01000110 01001100)
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To: RKV

how you KNOW the facts then?


208 posted on 11/29/2004 1:35:10 PM PST by BereanBrain
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To: BereanBrain

Clinton is not and has never been a member of the Masonic Lodge.
I know the man who black balled him.


209 posted on 11/29/2004 1:35:45 PM PST by lolhelp
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To: oldleft

I don't care about any of that. I wanna hear more about the Sex Worship...


210 posted on 11/29/2004 1:36:01 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (01010010 01001111 01010100 01000110 01001100)
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To: Chad Fairbanks

Well, to be fair, those are difficult topics to work in to everyday conversation. :-)


211 posted on 11/29/2004 1:36:03 PM PST by TheBigB (I sure could go for a charbroiled hamburger sammich and some french fried potatoes!)
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To: BereanBrain
Secretly fights injustice wherever possible in his pajamas at odd hours...

Put your clothes on, you should know better than to sit around in your pajamas on a work-day afternoon.

Next thing you'll be telling us is that you're bored and have been looking at internet porn.

212 posted on 11/29/2004 1:36:58 PM PST by JesseHousman
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To: TheBigB

Yeah. Good point. I can't imagine my mother sitting me down, and saying "Son, you know about the birds and the bees, but now, you need to know about large flocks of birds, and hives of bees together..."


213 posted on 11/29/2004 1:37:29 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (01010010 01001111 01010100 01000110 01001100)
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To: oldleft

Just a few years ago I contracted with a masonry company that was staffed by all black masons.


214 posted on 11/29/2004 1:38:08 PM PST by JesseHousman
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To: BereanBrain

A few more than you apparently do. George Washington was a Mason, as was Ben Franklin. Many of the generals in the American Continental Army were, too. If so, then that would tend to prove just the opposite of your thesis i.e. that Masonry had a negative influence on the founding of our country.


215 posted on 11/29/2004 1:39:51 PM PST by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules)
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To: JesseHousman

Based on this description, you're doing a good job of convincing me to apply for membership.


216 posted on 11/29/2004 1:40:36 PM PST by Modernman (Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. --Benjamin Franklin)
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To: lolhelp

If he is still around, please say "Thanks." He did a fine thing.


217 posted on 11/29/2004 1:40:42 PM PST by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules)
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To: Chad Fairbanks

At various levels of Masonry, a different "passphrase" is given that is equated to a new "Name" for God. At one particular level, the name "Abaddon" is given as a name of God - and of course the implication of Freemasonry is that all "names" are equally valid.

A quote from Pike's Morals & Dogma, the "Hanbook for Freemasonry"

"Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the Light, and with its splendors intolerable blinds feeble, sensual, or selfish Souls? Doubt it not!"

So, as you can see, there IS Satan worship going on - just not the CLOWN version we so often see portrayed by the media, and people like you.


218 posted on 11/29/2004 1:40:42 PM PST by BereanBrain
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To: BereanBrain
So, you give up? Would you care to debate issues or just assinate character?

Seriesly, what's your first language?

219 posted on 11/29/2004 1:42:08 PM PST by AmishDude (Hammacher Schlemmer has better submarines than the Canadian navy.)
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To: Modernman

Go right ahead...just check them out very carefully before you join.

Don't make a Faustian bargain without knowing the truth.

Do you agree that in general Christains are poorer and less successful than secular people? I do. But then again, compiling riches is not my ultimate goal....


220 posted on 11/29/2004 1:43:12 PM PST by BereanBrain
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