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Doctors' kitchen knives ban call
BBC news ^ | May 26, 2005

Posted on 07/23/2005 4:16:17 PM PDT by kerryusama04

A&E doctors are calling for a ban on long pointed kitchen knives to reduce deaths from stabbing. A team from West Middlesex University Hospital said violent crime is on the increase - and kitchen knives are used in as many as half of all stabbings.

They argued many assaults are committed impulsively, prompted by alcohol and drugs, and a kitchen knife often makes an all too available weapon.

The research is published in the British Medical Journal.

The researchers said there was no reason for long pointed knives to be publicly available at all.

They consulted 10 top chefs from around the UK, and found such knives have little practical value in the kitchen.

None of the chefs felt such knives were essential, since the point of a short blade was just as useful when a sharp end was needed.

The researchers said a short pointed knife may cause a substantial superficial wound if used in an assault - but is unlikely to penetrate to inner organs.

Kitchen knives can inflict appalling wounds

In contrast, a pointed long blade pierces the body like "cutting into a ripe melon".

The use of knives is particularly worrying amongst adolescents, say the researchers, reporting that 24% of 16-year-olds have been shown to carry weapons, primarily knives.

The study found links between easy access to domestic knives and violent assault are long established.

French laws in the 17th century decreed that the tips of table and street knives be ground smooth.

A century later, forks and blunt-ended table knives were introduced in the UK in an effort to reduce injuries during arguments in public eating houses.

The researchers say legislation to ban the sale of long pointed knives would be a key step in the fight against violent crime.

"The Home Office is looking for ways to reduce knife crime.

"We suggest that banning the sale of long pointed knives is a sensible and practical measure that would have this effect."

Government response

Home Office spokesperson said there were already extensive restrictions in place to control the sale and possession of knives.

"The law already prohibits the possession of offensive weapons in a public place, and the possession of knives in public without good reason or lawful authority, with the exception of a folding pocket knife with a blade not exceeding three inches.

"Offensive weapons are defined as any weapon designed or adapted to cause injury, or intended by the person possessing them to do so.

"An individual has to demonstrate that he had good reason to possess a knife, for example for fishing, other sporting purposes or as part of his profession (e.g. a chef) in a public place.

"The manufacture, sale and importation of 17 bladed, pointed and other offensive weapons have been banned, in addition to flick knives and gravity knives."

A spokesperson for the Association of Chief Police Officers said: "ACPO supports any move to reduce the number of knife related incidents, however, it is important to consider the practicalities of enforcing such changes."


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To: kerryusama04
Using this logic, I am sure that there is no need for kitchen knives to be made out of anything but plastic. After all, they consulted 10 chefs. 10 chefs whose livelihood depends on whether or not you are able to properly prepare dinner each night. These 10 chefs would much prefer that you eat at their restaurants than try to do-it-yourself.
21 posted on 07/23/2005 4:28:56 PM PDT by Conservative Infidel (How come they call it "Tourist Season" if we can't shoot them??)
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To: Semper911

Unfortunately, no...


22 posted on 07/23/2005 4:30:25 PM PDT by El Laton Caliente (NRA Member & GUNSNET.NET Moderator)
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To: kerryusama04
I John Wayne Bobbit Endorse this ban.
23 posted on 07/23/2005 4:30:30 PM PDT by cripplecreek (If you must obey your party, may your chains rest lightly upon your shoulders.)
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To: All

This is extremely faulty logc. All it will do
(if one could actually collect all the *billions*
of knives with pointed tips, is to make killers
*slash* instead of stab their victims, and when
it comes to surviving a knife attack, one is going
to lose a lot more blood a lot more quickly with
a large long gash that cannot be easily stanched
with a rag or bandage, than by a puncture hole.

Besides, no matter what the cooks said..there are
times when there are legitimate utilitarian needs
for a pointed tipped knife.

I can see it now..there will be a run at hardware
stores across the nation for awls....

...idiots...


24 posted on 07/23/2005 4:30:45 PM PDT by NickatNite2003
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To: kerryusama04

IMO Tke away a womens sharp knives you will have more frustation leadin to domestic uproars.

Ever try to prep a full coarse meal with a plastic knife? It SUCKS!


25 posted on 07/23/2005 4:30:48 PM PDT by oceanperch (Central Oregon Coast Rocks! Pride of the Pacific Northwest)
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To: LRS

Or, God forbid, a Banana Fiend!!!!

26 posted on 07/23/2005 4:33:00 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs ("Se habla, MoFo!")
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To: bill1952

LOL Balls?
As in sports or as in what men have?


27 posted on 07/23/2005 4:33:16 PM PDT by oceanperch (Central Oregon Coast Rocks! Pride of the Pacific Northwest)
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To: kerryusama04
"The manufacture, sale and importation of 17 bladed, pointed and other offensive weapons have been banned, in addition to flick knives and gravity knives."

OK. I want one of those 17 bladed weapons - even if it has to be imported from the Klingon homeworld.

28 posted on 07/23/2005 4:34:29 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (The Slthyerin Way =- Just becuse we don't care about the truth doesn't mean we don't understand it.)
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To: LRS

That would be a stain.


29 posted on 07/23/2005 4:34:43 PM PDT by oceanperch (Central Oregon Coast Rocks! Pride of the Pacific Northwest)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Do you think that socialized medicine might play a part in their desire to outfit their country with padded wallpaper? They were all just bricks in the wall...


30 posted on 07/23/2005 4:35:51 PM PDT by kerryusama04 (Walkin' the tightrope between the lost and found.)
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To: Mrs Mark

I guess I should have searched, but this is wacky enough for a third go-round, eh?


31 posted on 07/23/2005 4:36:41 PM PDT by kerryusama04 (Walkin' the tightrope between the lost and found.)
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To: NickAtNite

Oh and yeah...*knives need such high tech
equipment to manufacture them...why otherwise,
prisoners would be able to make them out of
any hard thin piece of (you name it) and be
able to stab each other!!!!!

...Good thing *that's* not possible....

...idiots...


32 posted on 07/23/2005 4:37:59 PM PDT by NickatNite2003
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To: kerryusama04
AT least they can still eat
33 posted on 07/23/2005 4:38:25 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs ("Se habla, MoFo!")
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To: LongElegantLegs

But but but..those Spam *lids*!!!!!
They have such *sharp* edges!....

LOL!


34 posted on 07/23/2005 4:42:31 PM PDT by NickatNite2003
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To: LRS
But, what if I'm walking home tonight and some great homicidal maniac comes after me with a bunch of loganberries?

Defending Yourself Against Fruit Attacks

35 posted on 07/23/2005 4:44:22 PM PDT by Loud Mime (thotline.com)
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To: NickAtNite

"I like Spam..."

36 posted on 07/23/2005 4:44:57 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs ("Se habla, MoFo!")
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To: LongElegantLegs

You can have my passion fruits when you pry it from my cold, dead hands.


37 posted on 07/23/2005 4:45:04 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: LongElegantLegs

Darn darn darn.....you beat me to it....

I was looking up the HTML coding


38 posted on 07/23/2005 4:45:22 PM PDT by Loud Mime (thotline.com)
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To: kerryusama04

Unbelievable. How about knitting needles? Those are long and pointed. What about scissors? Do Brits need to get kiddie scissors, next? Letter openers -- a nice antique ivory handled one would be considered a weapon, I suppose...


39 posted on 07/23/2005 4:45:42 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: Loud Mime
My Obscure Monty Python Bit skills are without match! Perhaps you should see...The Vocational Guidance Councilor? ;-P
40 posted on 07/23/2005 4:48:27 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs ("Se habla, MoFo!")
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