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The Los Angeles Times Must Be Getting Desperate
vanity | 9/14/2005 | vanity

Posted on 09/14/2005 7:11:42 AM PDT by stayout

As a resolute member of Free Republic since before the 2000 election, I must fess up to a dirty secret: I have subscribed to the Los Angeles Times. Reading its editorial pages invariably boiled my blood in the morning better than a cup of coffee. Moreover, my wife craves the massive stack of coupons they include on Sundays. Other than that, the paper meant nothing more than fishwrap for us.

In July, our subscription lapsed. I received renewal notice after renewal notice. I procratinated and dithered -- a big part of me is fed up with that paper's leftist slant.

Finally, I decided to pull the plug. Yesterday I called them up to cancel my subscription. After calling the 800 number, I finally got through to a customer service representative. I told him I wanted to cancel. His response should warm your hearts: "well, sir, I could do that, but your subscription already is complementary . . ."

Priceless! I wonder, how much of their reported paid subscription base is "complementary"? Wouldn't that make a good story for an intrepid leftwing consumer reporter?


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1 posted on 09/14/2005 7:11:42 AM PDT by stayout
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To: stayout

I cancelled my local paper five years ago, but they are showing up in my yard again.


2 posted on 09/14/2005 7:13:34 AM PDT by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: stayout
Complimentary is the only way I'll receive our local gannett affiliated rag sheet too. Once that runs out, oh well.....
3 posted on 09/14/2005 7:14:12 AM PDT by b4its2late (FOOTBALL REFEREES: It's tough playing with us, but you can't play the game without us.)
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To: b4its2late

Akron Beacon Journal is same way. Useful as toilet paper, kindling for the fireplace, and for a few laughs.


4 posted on 09/14/2005 7:15:33 AM PDT by RockinRight (What part of ILLEGAL immigration do they not understand?)
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To: stayout

a newspaper will continue to deliver to you even after your money has expired. they use that time to try to convince you to renew. they don't tend to call a subscription in that status "complimentary", but that's the most sense I can make of your tale.


5 posted on 09/14/2005 7:18:23 AM PDT by smonk
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To: js1138
The same for me too for the News and Disturber here in Raleigh, NC. Almost all the staff comes from the leftist leaning UNC-Chapel Hill or other severely demented liberal universities across the nation. The think a long time friend who worked there on the presses told me 80% of the N&O's staff are registered RATS.
6 posted on 09/14/2005 7:24:16 AM PDT by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: stayout
The ad rates for all major newspapers are set based on "audited" circulation figures. Free subscriptions are supposed to be separately counted than paid subscriptions. A number of newspapers have had frauds in that area recently, and staffers have been fired over that.

You may have just observed a tiny corner of a fraud at the L.A. Times which could cause people to get fired, and ad rates to drop, at that "worthy" organization. LOL.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column: "Another Ignorant Actor Spouts Off"

7 posted on 09/14/2005 7:54:48 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob (This Freeper was linked for the 2nd time by Rush Limbaugh today (9/13/05). Hoohah!)
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To: stayout
Our local Liberal rag, the Nashua Smellagraph called me every Saturday morning at 7 AM.
After 4 weeks of trying to be nice and saying "No thank you, please don't call again", I had to ask "What will it take to get you to stop calling me?"
The answer was: "Subscribe to the paper and we'll stop calling".
Needless to say that didn't go over too well. An angry call to the subscription office with charges of harrasment and extortion ended all calls.
I wouldn't even use that rag for toilet paper, I'd be afraid of catching some terrible disease.
8 posted on 09/14/2005 8:02:26 AM PDT by Brainhose (THINK OF THE KITTENS!)
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To: stayout

And then what happened?

Did you continue to accept the paper? Or did you tell them to stop sending it?

The NYTimes starting sending me a complimentary subscription. I sent it back and told them to never again darken my doorstep.


9 posted on 09/14/2005 8:06:20 AM PDT by new cruelty
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To: new cruelty

I did get Newsweak in college. At the time I was as conservative as today but didn't yet realize just how left wing that rag was.

When my subscription expired, they kept sending them. I called to cancel, and they asked why...my response was that I bought toilet paper and no longer needed it.


10 posted on 09/14/2005 8:22:44 AM PDT by RockinRight (What part of ILLEGAL immigration do they not understand?)
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To: RockinRight
my response was that I bought toilet paper and no longer needed it.

LOL. Great answer.

11 posted on 09/14/2005 8:25:30 AM PDT by new cruelty
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To: new cruelty
I've had a couple of experiences with this.... we didn't renew our Dallas Morning News subscription recently - they wanted $160 for the next year (Fridays and weekends only) according to the notice we received. A year's worth of coupons weren't worth $160... they can keep the paper.

Yesterday we got an offer from them for the same service for $99.

In Williamsburg, VA nothing my mother could do would end the newspaper subscription there. Multiple calls and a couple letters couldn't end it. Even when she passed away, and I notifed the paper in writing of her death, that rag kept coming. Having cleared my legal responsibilities, I told the next door neighbor he was welcome to it in return for picking up, until the house sold.

12 posted on 09/14/2005 8:46:13 AM PDT by lOKKI (You can ignore reality until it bites you in the ass.)
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To: stayout
Priceless! I wonder, how much of their reported paid subscription base is "complementary"? Wouldn't that make a good story for an intrepid leftwing consumer reporter?

About the same as the slowly diing Washington Post, stayout.

The Washington Times has been murdering "Pravda On The Potomac" for years in subscription, store and machine sales.

The only way The Post can even keep in the market is by giving papers away to employees and others. Then counting those as sales.

Jack.

13 posted on 09/14/2005 8:51:39 AM PDT by Jack Deth (Knight Errant and Disemboweler of the WFTD Thread)
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To: b4its2late
Complimentary is the only way I'll receive our local gannett affiliated rag sheet too.

Its the only way I recieve the Wash. ComPost, except I pay for Sunday's. Sports page is good.

14 posted on 09/14/2005 8:53:27 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: RockinRight

My response to our local paper was similar to yours, and came courtesy of something I read here on FR.

"I'm sorry, but the puppy is now housebroken and our bird died."

Best Regards

Sergio


15 posted on 09/14/2005 9:11:29 AM PDT by Sergio (If a tree fell on a mime in the forest, would he make a sound?)
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To: RockinRight

My favorite thing about the Akron Beacon Journal is their description of the crimes. They go into very fine detail and many of them are hilarious.


16 posted on 09/14/2005 10:08:20 AM PDT by Pest (My reality check bounced!)
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To: stayout
I'm not sure if its ongoing, but I believe there was a lawsuit filed over this.

Something to do with newspapers basically giving away their papers and counting it in circulation figures which was then quoted to advertisers.

17 posted on 09/14/2005 11:06:32 AM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: js1138
I cancelled my local paper five years ago, but they are showing up in my yard again.

LOL. When the unions shutdown both papers in Pittsburgh a number of years ago, I stated subscribing to the then "Greensburg" Tribune Review. After a number of months and behind the scene underhanded tactics by the unions, Post Gazette and local political hacks, the strike suddenly ended, but so did one of Pittsburgh's two papers -- the better of the two, The Press. Only the left-leaning Post Gazette remained. They tried many times to get me to subscribe again. They gave months of "free delivery". They still do from time to time. Meanwhile, the Greensburg paper opened a Pittsburgh news bureau, started a Pittsburgh edition, and instead of the city becoming another "one paper town" (the goal of the strike all the time) it still has two, and I still have my Trib subscription.

18 posted on 09/14/2005 11:19:04 AM PDT by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: Congressman Billybob
...and staffers have been fired over that.

Not for doing it, but for getting caught, I'm sure.

19 posted on 09/14/2005 12:00:08 PM PDT by Fog Nozzle (Conscripted for spelling police duty today.)
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