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Escaped Pit Bulls Attack Six People, Terrorize Neighborhood; Child Critically Injured [IN]
AP via TBO ^ | Nov 6, 2005

Posted on 11/06/2005 2:37:29 PM PST by ncountylee

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1 posted on 11/06/2005 2:37:29 PM PST by ncountylee
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To: ncountylee

nice puppies.


2 posted on 11/06/2005 2:43:16 PM PST by pipecorp (Let's have a CRUSADE! , the muslims have already started. 1800 replies and not a single post!)
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To: ncountylee
No one loves dogs more then I do but this is insane! Why is it always or almost always Pitt Bulls that do this? Can they actually be so inherently vicious or is it that the people who are attracted to these dogs are the kind that turn a dog vicious?
3 posted on 11/06/2005 2:45:17 PM PST by Eagles Talon IV (Still waiting for the)
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Jim Malone said he and a neighbor tried to beat the dogs back with baseball bats. "He'd hit them, they'd run, and they'd come back," Malone said. "This went on for 15 minutes."

Someone had to finish their donuts...

4 posted on 11/06/2005 2:48:22 PM PST by Mark was here (How can they be called "Homeless" if their home is a field?.)
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To: ncountylee
Jim Malone said he and a neighbor tried to beat the dogs back with baseball bats.

And yet one handgun in the right hands would have done wonders.

5 posted on 11/06/2005 2:48:52 PM PST by evolved_rage
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Wonder what the gun laws are like in Ill?


6 posted on 11/06/2005 2:53:29 PM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: ncountylee

How long before someone will post that THEEEIIIIRRR pit bull would NEVER do anything like this. Big ole babies they are.

Oddly enough, you rarely hear of viscious poodle attacks. But it COUDLN'T be the breed, eh?

Posted as an insurance agent who has never seen a liability claim except for a pit bull, rotweiler, akita and one doberman.


7 posted on 11/06/2005 2:54:34 PM PST by sandbar
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To: Eagles Talon IV
"Can they actually be so inherently vicious or is it that the people who are attracted to these dogs are the kind that turn a dog vicious?"

The 'gangsta' culture and dog-fighting subculture breed these dogs specifically for aggression and a high pain threshold. Moreover, they frequently will have Rottweiler or other large breeds cut into the blood line to increase their bulk.

The American Staffordshire Terrier was, and is, in the keep of a competent and experienced handler, an excellent breed: owners included Teddy Roosevelt, Helen Keller and indeed, the Little Rascals' Petey, was an American Staff. Sadly, many of these dogs would best be put down as they have been bred and deliberately socialized to be dangerous.

Nevertheless, I still disagree vehemently with laws that ban their ownership for multiple reasons, and simply think that negligent owners should be hammered.

8 posted on 11/06/2005 2:55:21 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum.)
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before the wild dogz on FR begin their viscious anti-pit bull ranting .....
I have owned 3 pit bulls and I have owned toy poodles.

I had a toy poodle that would tear out your throat if you got near my son when he was a baby. By current pit bull just sighs as my jack Russell terrier terrorizes him when he's trying to take a nap.

Are pit bulls dangerous? - only as dangerous as the human who trained him. Just like horses, cown or any other large animal, you do NOT allow chilren to play with them - they are not toys and they are rough.

Ignorance of anti-pit bull dogs is no different than the ignorance of anti-smokers and anti-gun fascists.

In the case of this article the dogs' owners should be jailed and charged with assault and the animals , unfortunately, destroyed since they have been irrepairably damaged by the owner.

I would prefer to have the owner staked out on the ground naked and pour gravy over his privates and then let his pitbulls out for a snack.


9 posted on 11/06/2005 2:55:54 PM PST by soltice
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Shucks, they would charge him for discharging a firearm within city limits and take away his FOID card along with the offending weapon.

Blessings, Bobo


10 posted on 11/06/2005 2:56:32 PM PST by bobo1
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To: sandbar

Rare to see an animal turn on it's owner like this.


11 posted on 11/06/2005 2:56:44 PM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: Eagles Talon IV
Why is it always or almost always Pitt Bulls that do this?

More accurately, why do the news stories always report pit bulls?

Lazy news reporters don't know one dog from another. They report any dog attack as a "pit bull attack" without knowing the actual breed of the dog. A case awhile ago was reported as a "pit bull attack" - turned out to be a retriever-chow mix but the correction was buried on page A26.

Don't think this is possible? More than one person has mistaken my Labrador Retriever for a pit bull. There are more stupid people out there than you would think.

However, there also are actual dangerous dogs out there and many of them are "pit bull type". This is because this is the gangsta dog du jour and all the antisocial criminals want one. When I was younger, the German Shepherd was the Scary Dog, then it was Dobes, then Rottweilers.

While these dogs are based on the APBT and Staffordshire terrier, as another poster mentioned the gangsta types have introduced crossbreeds for size and have trained these dogs for aggression towards humans (a characteristic that the old APBTs never had - oddly enough because it would be dangerous to the handlers in a dogfight). Give a gangsta a couple of goofy old lovable Golden Retrievers and 8-10 generations and he could breed and train Killer Goldens.

And ignorant trailer trash types would buy them, trying to look big.

These dogs should be destroyed because their breeder and owner have ruined them. But the breeder and owner ought to be hammered to the fullest extent of the law, and then have everything they own taken away in damages and their wages garnished for the next 50 years.

12 posted on 11/06/2005 3:07:33 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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3 pitbulls on the loose can only be stopped with firearms.


13 posted on 11/06/2005 3:11:13 PM PST by JustDoItAlways
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Right on sandbar. It is always interesting to know that it's the owner's fault and not the breed. Gee, that's some consolation to a parent who has just had their child's face ripped off.


14 posted on 11/06/2005 3:11:18 PM PST by donaldo
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A short-barreled 12 gauge would probably be just about right, loaded with No. 1 or No. 2 Buck.

And I would be sorely tempted to shoot the owner right along with the dogs, bitten off thumb or no bitten off thumb.

15 posted on 11/06/2005 3:13:16 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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When I was young I owned a German Shepard, he was a real sweetheart as far as the family went. Around other people however he was vicious and it took me a few years before I realized this. He was raised with love and kindness and never treated badly, never hit, kicked, starved or abused in anyway physically or mentally. I hated to admit he was a vicious dog, but finally realized it when he attacked a meter reader without provocation. I had him put down and would never own another Shepard.

There are vicious breeds, pit bulls may be one of them, some breeds are made for fighting and need to be kept under constant restraint. Unfortunately, there are also many people who are soft on dogs that won't admit some of them can be bad without being abused.

Certain breeds are more dangerous than others by their breeding and even if raised lovingly can turn on people, this is a fact not fiction. That's not to say the "nice" breeds can't attack people also, but to say that various breeds that comprise the pit bull family and other breeds such as Dobermans, Shepards etc. don't attack more often than breeds such as Golden Retrievers is just pulling the old head in the sand trick and ignoring facts.

16 posted on 11/06/2005 3:55:23 PM PST by calex59
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I don't think the breed should be banned, but I question anyone who chooses to keep a dog that has been bred over the years for fighting and aggression, that has incredibly powerful jaws and that has been bred to hold on for dear life. People like to point out that pits can be very friendly animals. I don’t doubt that, but so can a black lab or an English Setter and if one of those dogs goes nuts they aren’t liable to kill or maim somebody. 1/3rd of dog deaths in the US in the last 25 years have been caused by pits. That is more than twice that of any other breed. Anyone who lives in a neighborhood with lots of children, or who has children themselves is being reckless and irresponsible if they choose to have a pet like this. Its like having a pet alligator!


18 posted on 11/06/2005 4:43:22 PM PST by SmoothTalker
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15 minutes? Hmmmm.

If that happened on my street any one of about 50% of the homes would have had it finished by 5 minutes.

All the Cops would have would be a curbside cleanup.
19 posted on 11/06/2005 5:42:37 PM PST by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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To: soltice

While I do not care for pit bulls I have to agree with you on most issues in your post.

As a general rule, not talking about your poodle, I've found that owners of little dogs let them get more out of hand.

Ankle biters PO me to the max. The owner is going "Oh, isn't he cute, he thinks he's a big dog." as he's nipping and chewing on the bottom of your pants leg. Since I have to be nice I were long jeans when I'm working.

Big dogs I can handle, it's the little ones I want to drop kick to the other side of the room.


20 posted on 11/06/2005 5:49:29 PM PST by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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