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Scientists 'see new species born'
BBC News Online science editor ^ | 2004 June | By Dr David Whitehouse

Posted on 11/20/2005, 5:27:40 PM by restornu

Scientists at the University of Arizona may have witnessed the birth of a new species. Biologists Laura Reed and Prof Therese Markow made the discovery by observing breeding patterns of fruit flies that live on rotting cacti in deserts.

The work could help scientists identify the genetic changes that lead one species to evolve into two species.

The research is published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

One becomes two

Whether the two closely related fruit fly populations the scientists studied - Drosophila mojavensis and Drosophila arizonae - represent one species or two is still debated by biologists.

However, the University of Arizona researchers believe the insects are in the early stages of diverging into separate species.

The emergence of a new species - speciation - occurs when distinct populations of a species stop reproducing with one another.

When the two groups can no longer interbreed, they cease exchanging genes and eventually go their own evolutionary ways becoming separate species. Though speciation is a crucial element of understanding how evolution works, biologists have not been able to discover the factors that initiate the process.

In fruit flies there are several examples of mutant genes that prevent different species from breeding but scientists do not know if they are the cause or just a consequence of speciation.

Sterile males

In the wild, Drosophila mojavensis and Drosophila arizonae rarely, if ever, interbreed - even though their geographical ranges overlap.

In the lab, researchers can coax successful breeding but there are complications.

Drosophila mojavensi s mothers typically produce healthy offspring after mating with Drosophila arizonae males, but when Drosophila arizonae females mate with Drosphila mojavensis males, the resulting males are sterile.

Laura Reed maintains that such limited capacity for interbreeding indicates that the two groups are on the verge of becoming completely separate species.

Another finding that adds support to that idea is that in a strain of Drosophila mojavensis from southern California's Catalina Island, mothers always produce sterile males when mated with Drosophila arizonae males.

Because the hybrid male's sterility depends on the mother's genes, the researchers say the genetic change must be recent.

Reed has also discovered that only about half the females in the Catalina Island population had the gene (or genes) that confer sterility in the hybrid male offspring.

However, when she looked at the Drosophila mojavensi s females from other geographic regions, she found that a small fraction of those populations also exhibited the hybrid male sterility.

The newly begun Drosophila mojavensis genome sequencing project, which will provide a complete roadmap of every gene in the species, will help scientists pin down which genes are involved in speciation.


TOPICS: Education; Science
KEYWORDS: crevolist; evofreak; speciation
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

Mind your own business.


281 posted on 11/22/2005, 2:37:06 AM by Darksheare (I'm not suspicious & I hope it's nutritious but I think this sandwich is made of mime.)
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To: Lakeshark

Thanks sharky.

Apparently, he feels the need to continue being.....obnoxious.


282 posted on 11/22/2005, 2:37:26 AM by nicmarlo
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

Judging from your behavior, I'm more man that you could ever be.


283 posted on 11/22/2005, 2:38:03 AM by nicmarlo
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1525629/posts?page=112#112

Was that post to you?
You want me to 'mind your own business' as you said, yet the post you responded to by nicmarlo wasn't even to you.
Shouldn't you 'mind your own business' in return, or do you think that doesn't apply to you reciprocally?
284 posted on 11/22/2005, 2:39:29 AM by Darksheare (I'm not suspicious & I hope it's nutritious but I think this sandwich is made of mime.)
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To: Darksheare
"Funny, Nicmarlo's original post taht YOU responded to wasn't to YOU.
So.. Mind YOUR own business to begin with and people won't jump on you.
IF you want to play THAT game, then follow your own advice. "

This is an open forum and people are allowed to post about whatever is posted. If people want to make ridiculous statements they are not man enough to defend, they shouldn't post here.

"No, she said she had an opinion, and didn't state it because of arrogant and abusive posters like you.
Nicmarlo is a SHE by teh by."

No, she DID state her opinion. She just wasn't big enough to stand by it. That's the mark of a coward.

"Again, if you want to say "mind your own business" then you shouldn't have posted to nicmarlo who hadn't addressed YOU."

I said mind your own business because you have no idea what the hell you are talking about.
285 posted on 11/22/2005, 2:40:35 AM by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: Darksheare

"Mind your own business."

No.


286 posted on 11/22/2005, 2:41:12 AM by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

"This is an open forum and people are allowed to post about whatever is posted. "

Wow, a contradictpory statement!
You just told me to mind my own business!

Now we know not to take you seriously.


287 posted on 11/22/2005, 2:41:48 AM by Darksheare (I'm not suspicious & I hope it's nutritious but I think this sandwich is made of mime.)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

Yes.
You want ME to mind my own business.
You'd better mind yours then.


288 posted on 11/22/2005, 2:42:13 AM by Darksheare (I'm not suspicious & I hope it's nutritious but I think this sandwich is made of mime.)
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To: nicmarlo

"Judging from your behavior, I'm more man that you could ever be."

Judging from your behavior, you are afraid to back up your statements.


289 posted on 11/22/2005, 2:42:15 AM by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: Junior; nicmarlo

Nic: Do you have any examples of papers that were refused publication?


290 posted on 11/22/2005, 2:43:06 AM by Virginia-American
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To: CarolinaGuitarman; nicmarlo; Lakeshark

We have a winnah.

"This is an open forum and people are allowed to post about whatever is posted."

This after saying "Mind your own business."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1525629/posts?page=273#273

Wonderful contradictions!


291 posted on 11/22/2005, 2:43:49 AM by Darksheare (I'm not suspicious & I hope it's nutritious but I think this sandwich is made of mime.)
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To: kinsman redeemer; RadioAstronomer
[viruses].....not life. can't reproduce... uses someone's else's ribosomes...

Isn't this just an extreme form of parasitism? .

292 posted on 11/22/2005, 2:44:31 AM by Virginia-American
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

Funny, all you've shown to anyone is insults, arrogance, and baiting.
I'm seriously doubting you have anything real to offer to a debate except insults arrogance and baiting.


293 posted on 11/22/2005, 2:44:39 AM by Darksheare (I'm not suspicious & I hope it's nutritious but I think this sandwich is made of mime.)
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To: Virginia-American
"Nic: Do you have any examples of papers that were refused publication?"

How dare you ask her to provide evidence for her claims! lol
294 posted on 11/22/2005, 2:45:29 AM by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

How dare you contradict yourself.
You told me to mind my own business, and then you hided behind this being a public forum.
Now either you mind your own business, or this is an open public forum and I don't have to mind my own business.
YOU cannot have it both ways.


295 posted on 11/22/2005, 2:46:56 AM by Darksheare (I'm not suspicious & I hope it's nutritious but I think this sandwich is made of mime.)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
First rule of holes:

Stop digging.

You are really sounding foolish and like a truly nasty piece of work, far from the detached science expert you feign to be.

296 posted on 11/22/2005, 2:48:08 AM by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Darksheare
"Funny, all you've shown to anyone is insults, arrogance, and baiting.
I'm seriously doubting you have anything real to offer to a debate except insults arrogance and baiting."

Oh please, you're really embarrassing yourself. I asked serious questions about her specific claims. She refused and whined like a baby. I asked her specifically what specifically was turned down by scientific journals because it clashed with Darwin; she responded with insults and little whiney crying.
297 posted on 11/22/2005, 2:49:00 AM by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: Darksheare
"How dare you contradict yourself.
You told me to mind my own business, and then you hided behind this being a public forum. "

Do you have anything to say about her claim that scientists are being stopped from publishing anti-evolution views? No? Than mind your own business and post on the American Idol threads where your great intellect will be appreciated.
298 posted on 11/22/2005, 2:51:14 AM by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

"Oh please, you're really embarrassing yourself."

I'm, embarrassing myself?

Who said to mind their own business?
HInt: That was you.

Who hid behind this being a public forum when it suits them?
Hint: That was you.

Suggestion: If you want to debate something, be honest about it, and non-insulting.
You're coming off like a halfcocked hothead who thinks nicety applies to everyone but them.
If you want me to butt out and mind my own business, you'll have to butt out and mind your own business as the post you started this over wasn't even to you.


299 posted on 11/22/2005, 2:51:18 AM by Darksheare (I'm not suspicious & I hope it's nutritious but I think this sandwich is made of mime.)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

"Than mind your own business "

Sorry, this is a public forum.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1525629/posts?page=285#285


300 posted on 11/22/2005, 2:51:59 AM by Darksheare (I'm not suspicious & I hope it's nutritious but I think this sandwich is made of mime.)
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