Posted on 12/30/2005 12:45:47 AM PST by Quick1
I don't watch it, but I stand up for the right to complain about anything which is a right some people want to take away from people who complain about things that effect their religious beliefs.
Of course, you have the right to complain about our complaining too!
But I do believe Southpark is an equal opportunity insulter.
I would say that. How can you be offended by something you didn't see, unless you are a liberal? How can you talk with any knowledge about the episode when you didn't see it for yourself, and you're only going by what you've heard?
"A chick bleeding out her vagina is no miracle. Chicks bleed out their vaginas all the time." -- Pope Benedict XVI
Who is hating on Catholics? The only group of people I have been hating on is those who perform idolatry.
We certainly critique any who subject themselves to ridicule through deep belief in myth, superstition, or disproven/unproven assertion.
Why is it politically incorrect to publicly criticize the religious views of others ?
Mindless respect???
You're not one of them there 'critical thinking' morally devoid 'progressives' are you?
It is not "politically incorrect" to respect a respectable belief -regardless, in the case of FR it may just be against the rules to ridicule religious beliefs and in my opinion quite morally liberal to denigrate religion and or God or those that belief in Him...
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Maybe you are just fooolish -then again maybe you are just a troll...
Veneration of statues and images only looks weird to Protestants and Muslims. It's quite typical of historical Chistianity. Christian Fanatics, by and large, are just moderates who aren't in power. "Moderation" is a cheap facade, which is why it is so often employed.
Statements like yours, for instance, are interesting to ponder, but if it was the official position of my government, it would probably mean that I live in Iran.
Or pre-1960s Boston! Anti-Blasphemy laws are still on the books of many states and obscenity is theoretically allowed to be censored even in ultra-liberal Supreme Court Jurisprudence. Censorship is as American as apple pie and anti-Communism. In fact, I seem to recall that the commies were big on undermining anti-obscenity laws...
Just kidding. Like Red-hunting, the reductio ad al-Qaedam is a silly and dishonest tactic to be avoided.
South Park, for all its irreverent pretenses, is actually quite banal. The episodes I was unfortunate enough to see ended with stupid praise for diversity, tolerance, and religious skepticism. Its creators went to my alma mater CU-Boulder a few years before I matriculated. Even while attempting to offend they mouth the platitudes of Boulderite sensitivity training: Don't offend those obsessed with race, class, or gender issues. But it's open season on Christianity!
I know they usually end their show with the SP kids giving out a good lesson they learned but one of them was never religious skepticism. Personally, there is nothing wrong with diversity as long as it isnt forced. There is nothing wrong with tolerance as long as as the other side tolerates you as well.
These guys are social libertarians and love to chide those who are easy targets.
And I have no clue what you are talking about with Christian fanatacism in relation to this thread....besides fanatics who are complaining about being offended about a subject they have misunderstood in the first place.
"We have become a nation of victims, complainers and whiners."
Yep. After 8 years of hearing about the "Bill of No Rights" (the conservative answer to political correctness), it's hypocritically interesting to see these same anti-PC 'conservatives' screaming about how 'offended' they are. Funny how people act when the shoe's on the other foot.
"It's offensive...hideous. Yes, we have constitutional freedom of expression, but we also have a moral responsibility to avoid ridiculing religions in such a way as to defame them. If one believes in a need criticize a religion, one should do so only analytically, with honesty, good evidence and no intent to harm anyone."
Then don't watch it.
Anyone who feels they can find healing or other aspects of their faith in a freakin' statue DESERVES ridicule. There's a commandment about "false idols"...and a "miraculous bleeding statue" is as false an idol as there can be.
"When will they do a show on Mohammed? Do they dare?"
They've hilariously insulted Muslims before.
"For the last time, this wasn't about Catholicsm (much). It was showing the ridiculousness of people who come to worship STATUES."
Yep. Worshipping of false idols is apparently OK with these outraged Catholic bishops.
"According to him, a "South Park Defender" is anyone who says to just change the channel, and a conservative is someone who doesn't use any naughty words."
Also, a conservative is someone who is just as easily offended as the most politically-correct liberal and needs gov't intervention whenever necessary to enforce their views of morality.
Ahh..hypocrisy.
"the episode telling the story of Joseph Smith"
Still one of my favorites - Dumb Dumb Dumb Dumb Dumb!!
(Where was the outrage here after that? Oh that's right - making fun of Mormons is OK, I guess.)
"When will the mass expulsions start due to this cartoon? If you would be so kind as to draw on your historical knowledge."
Ancient Rome used an episode of the classic Latin hit show "Southicus Parkicus" to generate anti-Christian hatred. The joke in that infamous episode was "Too many Christians! Not enough Lions! Hail Nero!!"
"Care to name those conservative leaders you say are nothing but hucksters and salesmen?"
Sean Hannity - this guy is always peddling a new book
Bill O'Reilly - see above
Ann Coulter - see above
Pat Robertson - always needs donations to 700 Club.
Neal Boortz - Please buy his Flat Tax book so he's shut up!
Michael Savage - He's got a new book out.
"P.P.S. Call this the "Simmons Corolary to the Universal Law of Hypocrisy": The people who wear their religiousity on their sleeves and protest the most are the ones whose actions are the farthest from their words. BANK on it. A lifetime of experience is speaking. All of the knives in my back were put there by the MOST 'holier than though' hypocrites that I have ever met. Are you perchance in their ranks - a CINO (Christian-in-name-only)???"
I'm not in their ranks but I've observed your Corolary on countless occasions.
What are you talking about? There can be plenty wrong with freely-chosen diversity. For one, it tends to reduces culture, society, and its government to appealing to the lowest common denominator. Excellence requires exclusion and indeed a somewhat monotonous and monocultural training. This is impossible in a society that "celebrates" diversity.
What's more, a "diverse" society isn't, as it pretends, an escape from monolithic and sometimes oppresive culture, but just another very primitive variety thereof.
Here's a wise freeper's opinion on diversity:
It displaces the concept of organic community rooted in boring old things like shared culture, language, affinity, and family, and replaces it with pseudo-community, in which all members have nothing in common except their re-engineering as economic units of production and consumption. Government's attention-getting stunts and the corpocracy's imposition of frenzied economic activity meanwhile, are proposed as a fair trade for the suppression of authentic culture, tradition, memory, and the family's privileged zone of privacy and moral sovereignty.What's so good about diversity?Sounds like fun, dunnit?
There is nothing wrong with tolerance as long as as the other side tolerates you as well.
Tolerance for all but the intolerant, eh? You're only deepening my cynicism. Tolerance is not a virtue in itself, though knowing when to be tolerant certainly is.
I wonder what those who are so upset would be saying if the Scientologists came out saying that the scientology episode should never be shown again. Something tells me they would be whistling a different tune.
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