[digger121]

Why bother giving to charity programs then if your against welfare? Its just the same thing isn't it?

[CougarGA7]

Your already banned but I will respond anyway.

Welfare is a method used by the government to take away from those who produce and give it to those who do not.

There is a difference between giving a hand up and a hand out. Just look at what happened with the FEMA cards for Kitrina.

These were cards that where just given out and could be used for anything, and they were abused...duh.

Welfare is a hand out that is often abused. It is forced on the taxpayer who in turn has very little control over how it is managed. If it is mismanaged the taxpayer has no recource to correct it other than their one vote.

Charity is something that is given willfully to an organization that uses it to give aid. If the person does not like how the charity is using the money then they have the option to stop giving to that charity.

This gives the charity a vested interest in not mismanaging the money.

[TexasCajun]

Do you know you are in the 4.6 percentile?

96.4 people out of 100 are working and you are looking for your neightbors to give you a car and a home and a job!

Loser!! Those that want to work are working!

[TexasCajun]

One more thing Troll!

" How can you be against somthing thats so good and useful? "

Moron, you are talking money out my pocket via government welfare that feeds and provides for MY FAMILY!

[PeteB570]

Ah, it's back for fun and games.

Went to post on it when the Mods pulled it to chew on it themselves.

Thanks guys.

[Darksheare]

You are an idiot.
Thank you for letting us laugh at you.

[dighton]

Everyone has a right to live, that means the right to freedom, a job, a car and a home. No one should be forced to live without any of those.

I consider myself entitled to a jet, yacht, and harem, so please fork over the dough ASAP.

[Skooz]

No it isn't.

One is coerced. The other is voluntary.

[Publius6961]

Everyone has a right to live, that means the right to freedom, a job, a car and a home. No one should be forced to live without any of those.

Here's where we live in different realities, Digger; your logic is self serving and I reject it entirely.

Freedom is the "right" that eludes you. Freedom to succeed and live, or to fail and die. What you describe is slavery: either as the recipient supported by nanny government; or as the victim, when you are the worker forced to support the useless, the unproductive, the parasites.

There's a third theory, the "pet theory", but that's a combnation of the other two, and the system that most of us are suffering under currently.

[dead]

Go socialism!

[bcsco]

You're still around? IBTZ!!!

[MountainDad]

Whew, that was a close one, but I made it IBTZ!

[Harmless Teddy Bear]

I keep hearing from people that welfare is immoral and wasteful when it helps so many people who would die without it.

I am sorry but your application to join Free Republic has been denied. You must be smarter then this rock to post here.

Welfare is immoral because it degrades the person to whom it is given. (well not you apparently but most normal people) That it is wasteful is evident.

That people would die without it is subject to dispute.

[dfwgator]

Mr. Digger, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

[A CA Guy]

Welfare should be a very temporary matter unless the people are severely physically or mentally handicapped.

IMO, too many live off of it because they can.

Even more refuse to work because they can barely earn more than minimum wage and figure they would rather be on a couch watching Oprah, being fed for free and given lodging vouchers rather than earning their way.

IMO, I would create tents for such people where they have no privacy and little comfort.
I would have on site a tent that has people who can train these people to interview, have at least some bare minimum skills and I would not allow them any right to sue the government if they are on our nickle.

I think welfare is slavery to the human spirit and we need to kick some people in the butt to get going.

I don't know why people expect they have some right to their own place to live for free. Even if they have to share a place with three other families, they should never shun work, have respect for a job and themselves and make their own life rather than mooch off of other's paychecks.

Thou Shall NOT Covet Thy Neighbor's Goods!

[Delta 21]

[Delta 21]

And above all things have fervent charity among yourselves: for charity shall cover the multitude of sins.

Charity and welfare the same thing? I dont think so.

[Delta 21]

We, the sensible people of the United States, in an attempt to help
everyone get along, restore some semblance of justice, avoid any more
riots, keep our nation safe, promote positive behavior and secure the
blessings of debt-free liberty to ourselves and our great-great-great
grandchildren, hereby try one more time to ordain and establish some
common sense guidelines for the terminally whiny, guilt-ridden,
delusional liberal, commie, pinko bedwetters.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that a whole lot of people were
confused by the Bill of Rights and are so dim that they require a Bill of
No Rights.

BILL OF NO RIGHTS

ARTICLE I: You do not have the right to a new car, big screen TV or any
other form of wealth. More power to you if you can legally acquire them,
but no one is guaranteeing anything.

ARTICLE II: You do not have the right to never be offended. This country
is based on freedom, and that means freedom for everyone-not just you!
You may leave the room, turn the channel, express a different opinion,
etc., but the World is full of idiots, and probably always will be.

ARTICLE III: You do not have the right to be free from harm. If you stick
a screwdriver in your eye, learn to be more careful, do not expect the
tool manufacturer to make you and all your relatives independently
wealthy.

ARTICLE IV: You do not have the right to free food and housing.
Americans are the most charitable people to be found, and will gladly
help anyone in need, but we are quickly growing weary of subsidizing
generation after generation of professional couch potatoes who achieve
nothing more than the creation of another generation of professional
couch potatoes.

ARTICLE V: You do not have the right to free health care. That would be
nice, but from the looks of public housing, we're just not interested in
health care.

ARTICLE VI: You do not have the right to physically harm other people.
If you kidnap, rape, intentionally maim or kill someone, don't be
surprised if the rest of us want to see you fry in the electric chair.

ARTICLE VII: You do not have the right to the possessions of others.
If you rob, cheat or coerce away the goods or services of other citizens,
don't be surprised if the rest of us get together and lock you away in a
place where you still won't have the right to a big-screen color TV or a
life of leisure.

ARTICLE VII: You don't have the right to demand that our children risk
their lives in foreign wars to soothe your aching conscience. We hate
oppressive governments and won't lift a finger to stop you from going to
fight if you'd like. However, we do not enjoy parenting the entire world
and do not want to spend a lot of our time battling each and every little
tyrant with a military uniform and a funny hat.

ARTICLE VIII: You don't have the right to a job. All of us sure want
all of you to have one, and will gladly help you along in hard times; but
we expect you to take advantage of the opportunities of education and
vocational training laid before you to make yourself useful.

ARTICLE X: You do not have the right to happiness. Being an American
means that you have the right to pursue happiness - which, by the way,
is a lot easier if you are unencumbered by an overabundance of idiotic
laws created by those of you who were confused by the Bill of Rights.

[Delta 21]

You are an idiot.

[SwankyC]

In a word, yes. If you have the "right" to that stuff, go do it and stop living off my money you turd.

[darkwing104]

Go away, Don't forget to pick up your Government Cheese.
Get off the net you dope!!!

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