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A difficult lesson (Must read)
Treppenwitz | 7/16/06

Posted on 07/22/2006 4:20:05 AM PDT by Valin

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To: Brooklyn Kid

In #64 you state Mr. Lahoud's obvious difficulties with some sympathy. May I suggest that your sympathy might be restricted to the innocent victims of Hezbollah violence. Mr. Lahoud is merely having a bad day.


101 posted on 07/22/2006 7:28:17 AM PDT by Iris7 (Dare to be pigheaded! Stubborn! "Tolerance" is not a virtue!)
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To: ansel12
...anti Americanism?

There are idiotic jerks among any assemblage; be it Marines, Americans or Freepers - such as your posts have revealed. If the jerk was a Marine, so be it. This does not reflect upon my nephews or any other honorable Marines who serve their country with honor. Perhaps you could regain a portion of your own honor by taking your "jabs" in stride and saying you were wrong.

102 posted on 07/22/2006 7:31:33 AM PDT by Socratic ("I'll have the roast duck with the mango salsa.")
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To: Iris7

My sympathy is for all people being killed and suffering due to the actions of hezbollah.


103 posted on 07/22/2006 7:32:46 AM PDT by Brooklyn Kid (What's it to ya? ) ((....west of the Jordan, east of the Rock of Gibraltar.................))
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To: ansel12
Your #66 is bizarre. You miss the point so completely that I wonder about your sanity.
104 posted on 07/22/2006 7:33:51 AM PDT by Iris7 (Dare to be pigheaded! Stubborn! "Tolerance" is not a virtue!)
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To: freeandfreezing

If your #82 does not work there is very little hope for the lad.


105 posted on 07/22/2006 7:38:32 AM PDT by Iris7 (Dare to be pigheaded! Stubborn! "Tolerance" is not a virtue!)
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To: Valin
Bump, just to p1ss someone off.

5.56mm

106 posted on 07/22/2006 7:52:17 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Msgt USMC
Let me say that my respect for the Corps is unwavering and my respect for a good Marine unqualified. I recollect many such Marines. Many are gentlemen of the highest sort, perhaps a bit rough around the edges, but most certainly gentlemen.

I do remember Olongapo. A sad and violent place.

I didn't enjoy a Marine being used for an example of this sort.

I recollect young Marines I used to know, their faces fading with time from my memory. Wonderful memories from my youth. I remember one young Marine of a different sort I knew in those days so long ago now and remember him without affection or respect. I wish I could be more clear.
107 posted on 07/22/2006 8:09:55 AM PDT by Iris7 (Dare to be pigheaded! Stubborn! "Tolerance" is not a virtue!)
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To: Msgt USMC; docman57

The smiley face next to my comment means I was joking. We're all on the same side, here. I know the point being made was for Israel to keep up the offensive. *sheesh!*


108 posted on 07/22/2006 8:12:38 AM PDT by rabidralph
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To: ansel12
"So now that you have read the 2nd edition of the article, how do you feel about it's anti Americanism?"

There is none. You surprise me yet again.
109 posted on 07/22/2006 8:12:39 AM PDT by Iris7 (Dare to be pigheaded! Stubborn! "Tolerance" is not a virtue!)
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To: Brooklyn Kid

I have done my best for you.


110 posted on 07/22/2006 8:14:49 AM PDT by Iris7 (Dare to be pigheaded! Stubborn! "Tolerance" is not a virtue!)
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To: M. Dodge Thomas
Problem with this fight is that both participants think they are the little guy set upon by the bully

That they both THINK this does not mean they are both right. Your post sets up a false equivalency by referring to supposed beliefs instead of reality. Frankly, I stopped caring what Muslims think on Sept 11, 2001. All I care about is their objective behavior. Their objective behavior as a whole is abominable--a cowardly bar bully is a good analogy. Hopefully, the rest will hold.

it's largely the bystanders who are getting their teeth punched out.

Evidence?

111 posted on 07/22/2006 9:04:25 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: Alouette; Salem; SJackson; Convert from ECUSA; KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Ummm, this thread is a lot more active. Please redirect earlier ping here.


112 posted on 07/22/2006 9:15:47 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Pray for peace, prepare for war.)
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To: Valin
Good one Valin! Oh yes, do I ever remember Olongopo! What 7th Fleet sailor doesn't? Now there's a training ground (used to be) for self reliance and self defence with a little preemptive strikes mixed in...
113 posted on 07/22/2006 10:09:02 AM PDT by brushcop (Lt. Harris, SFC Salie, CPL Long, SPC Hornbeck, B-Co, 2/69 3ID We will remember you always.)
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To: ishabibble

The local beat cops darn sure weren't going to arrest him!
(the kid, not your son)

And God bless your son.


114 posted on 07/22/2006 2:26:45 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: Valin

Valin: Make sure to attribute this piece to its author. He is: DAVID BOGNER. I posted the same piece last night.


115 posted on 07/22/2006 2:29:27 PM PDT by oneolcop (Take off the Gloves!)
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To: ansel12

The point of this essay is that sometimes bullies start fights expecting to either win by intimidation or for the fight to be stopped before they get hurt.

It's not about sailers and marines.


116 posted on 07/22/2006 2:31:56 PM PDT by oneolcop (Take off the Gloves!)
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To: M. Dodge Thomas

"neither can actully deliver a knockout blow"

You have to be kidding. Israel could knock Hezbollah and their Lebannon supporters back in the Stone Age.


117 posted on 07/22/2006 2:36:15 PM PDT by razzle
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To: Valin
I like your over-all analogy, but given that President Lahoud has Hezbollah ready to slit his throat if he doesn't follow their script, I liken him to the diminutive sailor in your story. Only Lahoud has thousands of Hezbollah terrorists ready to snuff his life out instead of one marine bully. Hardly a fair fight.

Under the circumstances, I think most people know not to put much stock into his call for the end of violence and cease fire requests. If you and your family were hostages to terrorists calling all of the shots, I'm sure you'd say whatever necessary to apease them too.

Israel is the sailor in this story and they're the ones that need to ignore outside requests to end war prematurely. I hope they will.

118 posted on 07/22/2006 2:49:39 PM PDT by demkicker (democrats and terrorists are intimate bedfellows)
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To: Valin

Hooah!


119 posted on 07/22/2006 9:59:20 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: Valin
Given this, what can the President of Lebanon do?

Hasn't Lahoud been the Syrians' man in Lebanon for quite some time? I'm amazed that he's still President. But then, Lebanese politics has never been straightforward, has it?

120 posted on 07/24/2006 2:35:48 AM PDT by zimdog
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